I completely understand Nana's desire to head for greener pastures. I'm disappointed that it's happening so soon but I can accept it as long as TFC management was diligent in offering him a reasonable contract extension...
I completely understand Nana's desire to head for greener pastures. I'm disappointed that it's happening so soon but I can accept it as long as TFC management was diligent in offering him a reasonable contract extension...
As is just about every other league in the world with the exception of four.Originally Posted by JonO
You could even make the case that ALL football clubs are essentially farm teams for 10-15 major clubs (hint - we're not one of them).
What are you talking about? MLS' mom says we're cool.You could even make the case that ALL football clubs are essentially farm teams for 10-15 major clubs (hint - we're not one of them
I don't know if Nana is going to get anywhere prominent AND get playing time. He's been very good for us but his game still has some pretty big gaps.
He tends to get lost on set pieces and his distribution is non existant.
I hope he stays and gets better with us and then wish him all the best but I'd be much more worried about losing a guy like Cann as opposed to Nana.
Frankly, I question why any player would want to stay here. The front office is a complete shit show. You know the team is a sinking ship, so why would you stick around and let it bring you down with it?
Gonna take Mo another 5 years to replace Nana with a decent CB. For those of you that think Harden and Henry are capable replacements you are in for a big surprise this year or next year. Harden is a backup, not a starter. And Henry, I know exactly what's going to happen with him. He's going to get thrown into the fire because we'll have no replacement for Nana and he'll be the next Ibby within months. Fans will be crying out to see his ass gone just like the shit Ibby has to put up with. TFC fans have no patience for youngsters to develop their game. Mostly because they are forced to develop fairly quickly because of Mo's inability to get capable replacements.
What I actually said about the Wheeler story: "It seems to be more speculation than reporting, but he could be on to something. We should keep an eye on this."
What many seem to think I said about the Wheeler story: "HE'S MAKING SHIT UP. FUCK WHEELER. THE SUN IS GARBAGE."
What I’m saying about Nana. I heard from several people and in several public places that he turned down a deal. I followed up with it by asking a few people I know and trust and that have given me good info before (and I’ll stand on my record here. I am not a rumour flinger, even though I do report with unnamed sources – I wish I didn’t have to, but the reality of the situation is that I have to if I want to get new info out). They told me he wants to see if there is interest elsewhere. They DIDN’T say that he’ll be gone, 100% for sure, or that he’s unhappy – just that he wanted to see what’s out there.
That isn’t all that shocking, really.
The money is better. FC Kobenhavn anyone?
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I didn't mind when Atiba Hutchinson played (and got player of the year) there last year.
He moved on to PSV I think. Either way Scandinavia isn't anything to laugh at in terms of being another stepping stone to a bigger league in Europe. Plus the money.
I mean ideally I'd prefer to see Nana stay here, and for all we know right now he intends to, but I won't fault the guy for testing the European waters.
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Nana would likely make a better longer term move if he gets another solid 1-2 years behind him in the MLS.
Assuming TFC is trying to shortchange the lad...remind me how much that useless wanker Peterson gets...around 200k yes? And Nana is on 40k.
No idea what the club has offered or if there are other reasons behind it, but this situation once again highlights the cap management in place at the club.
We don't pay Garcia, San Jose does (for the most part) as if you didn't know that already!
In any case, his contract is up at the end of this season. The Robbo contract will also be up so that money plus what we had to pay out to Gerba this season will all be available.
How so? We didn't sign Peterson to that contract. Preki wanted him so Mo made a deal to get him.
And how do we force Nana to sign a richer contract if he doesn't want to sign a contract? It was offered, he said no thanks.
If any question is to be asked, it should be asked of Preki.
"What did you ever see in Jacob Peterson coach?"
ah man, we've barely seen harden, ill reserve judgment until then
Hopefully Emmanuel Gomez will be back in the mix next season. He showed some nice flashes of competence last year.
^and Atiba's been been in the starting XI every match so far (i think, please correct me if i'm wrong) ... there was a thing on PSV TV, like an introduction video type thing, and he talked about the biggest difference b/w leagues was how the Danish league was a lot more physical, rougher and the Dutch league was more technical ... that being said Cann can back from Denmark and has been stellar for us
obviously, i wished Nana would stay, but like everyone else here, i can't blame him for jumping at a chance to play overseas
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What does this situation with Nana have to do with the salary cap?
It's not like 1) TFC doesn't have the money to pay him (dump Usanov at year's end and there ya go); and 2) according to the report we're discussing, Nana turned down a TFC offer, which was obviously for more than he was making. So if Nana is playing for peanuts, it's his choice. Don't feel bad for him -- he's getting to play every day and show his talents.
The cap is really irrelevant to this question. I think Nana is very good and has great potential, but it's not like he deserves DP money or something. They can fit him in at a greatly increased wage, no problemo.
Who's going to sign him?
Have fun in Belarussian Div 2 Nana.
I think this is all speculation, by the wannabee agents out there, I think Nana deserves more than $40k, If MLSE don't offer a substantial increase do you blame the lad for looking elswhere, hell I make more than that and I'm a warehouse 'Dock Ape' for fuck's sake, not arguably TFC's best defender, if not one of the MLS' best defenders, It would be a shame if another MLS club picked him up, then TFC would score even less goals.
I think it would be a sad day in TFC land.
Perhaps another MLS team, then we`d be even more fucked
They don't name them when there's a risk to the person's occupation or safety (the good ones).
Any other reason and they're usually not one of the good ones. But yes, there are often good reasons why reliable reporters don't name sources.
I can't say I'd be surprised if he took a shot at Europe next year. He's probably got contacts in Scandinavia through other players, and he can make 10 times his $40,000 there without even starting (Rolfe reportedly went to Denmark for $600,000 a season).
Imagine the anti-Mo shitshow if this actually takes place.
He could easily play in a place like Norway or Denmark and make 4 times what he's making now and get a much higher profile on the continent.
As long as he goes to Spurs I don't care.
The average wage for:
England Championship - $386K
League One - $123K
League Two - $100K
nevermind Prem at $2.3million
Theres no doubt that Nana can find hinself in at least the top 50 percentile of Championship so earning at least 400k. Then he either proves his ability and gets on in Prem at 2.3 mil or fails and comes back to a Canadian MLS team earning a tidy 200k.
An athlete in his position has to at least make a go at the big times, he was never going to play out his career at TFC. Thats like someone kicking butt for the Marlies and never accepting a call up to the Leafs.
Goincg back to avg wages, TFC is just about on par with league One in competing for talent wage-wise (sure theres other factors aka life in Toronto vs Swindon)
this is quite possible. we have a war looming for young Canadians with Vancouver and Montreal.
although the form of "free agency" that MlS has, per the new CBA, doesn't let players pick their teams, but it does allow them to move without compensation to their old team
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I wouldn't say that there's no doubt about that...I can't see him starting for any of the top teams at all. He'd be a huge stretch to start in the second tier of teams, but might get a look beyond that. In the Championship, his best chance for starting would be for a newly promoted club from FL1, but a more realistic role for him wouldn't be as a starter at all but rather a depth player/project for a mid-table team...a team that knows its not going up and does what it has to do avoid relegation. He'd have to play that role for at least a year before he could be a starter in the one of the top 12 teams.
I would be very pissed off if he signed for another MLS club! If you're gonna leave us, leave us to go to Europe...
I'd just like to repeat this.
Nana is young and has a chance to take a shot at Europe. No guarantee that he'll make it anywhere, but signing a contract extension would likely damage any chance he has. I can't begrudge him for wanting to try.
If it doesn't work he re-signs with TFC. The risk of losing a job is minimal because with Vancouver (and then Montreal) joining the league the premium on Canadian players has increased.
Just seems like a risk worth taking to me. Of course it's not my career
I don't think he can do that can he? That would be free agency. I know there is some new rules about free agency with MLS but I don't think it would allow Nana to just refuse to sign with us and sign with somebody else.
Someone smarter please correct me.
Look at Simeon Jackson. He's worked his way up the ranks/leagues. Why can't Nana do the same?
He prob knows he'll have to fight for his life in order to get a starting spot anywhere he goes. Nothing new here.
I would do it if I was him.
Even though I don't play footy, I would love to be able to live abroad (especially in Europe).
Look at DeRo, didn't go because he had a family, now that Nana is a young single (presumably) guy is the best time to go. He can go play footy and see what it's like to live in a different country. Maybe meet his future wifey over there who knows?
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