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Letting Joe Blow tear up BMO Field grass is a dumb move_




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[Menelaos]

Morning

[Wagner]

Wheeler is a dumbass...
doesn't he know that BMO has a very strict cancellation policy in place to protect the grass...
if the moon is too bright, or if there is a millimetre too much of moisture, they can't shut down a user group.

<cue BMO/TFC staff to look into his permit>

Wheeler can't get his facts straight when reporting...how can we be sure that he'll respect our pitch?

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

wasnt aware that BMO is still going to be a public used facility...that is madness.

[nascarguy]

yeah the keeper area is all ready fucked up as it is. tfc when will you smart up

[pekduck]

the sooner the public use is out of BMO the better it is.. end of story

[Cashcleaner]

Guys, guys, guys. The public PAID for most of BMO Field. Unless MLSE is ready to cut a cheque to the city and province, it will remain open for use outside Toronto FC matches. I agree its a bit of a shitty situation we're in with the stadium, but not much can be done about it. Hopefully, a deal might be reached with the new training facility that would see the amount of public traffic at BMO Field lessened.

[Shaughno]

Wheeler is a dumbass...
doesn't he know that BMO has a very strict cancellation policy in place to protect the grass...
if the moon is too bright, or if there is a millimetre too much of moisture, they can't shut down a user group.

<cue BMO/TFC staff to look into his permit>

Wheeler can't get his facts straight when reporting...how can we be sure that he'll respect our pitch?

Really? I thought that was the best article he's put out... that I've read anyway.

In fact, he couldn't be more spot on.

There is no way public-use of the facility ever was, or still is a good idea. Keeping the new grass as healthy as possible should be the priority. TFC only trains there one day a week before home games, instead practising out of the city, often times on turf. And for what? So the citizens of Toronto can carve up BMO Field?
It’s an absolute disgrace. The current arrangement is bush league and has to change.
If high-level games, like the final of the Robbie tournament is played at BMO Field, then so be it. It’s understandable and has caché, but glorified beer leagues and social set-ups have no place.

There's no way we just spent what, $3m? on this new grass??? and we're letting community use tear it to shreds? Fan fucking tastic.

[pekduck]

Guys, guys, guys. The public PAID for most of BMO Field. Unless MLSE is ready to cut a cheque to the city and province, it will remain open for use outside Toronto FC matches. I agree its a bit of a shitty situation we're in with the stadium, but not much can be done about it. Hopefully, a deal might be reached with the new training facility that would see the amount of public traffic at BMO Field lessened.

paying for a facility doesn't get the entitlement to destroy it

hence.. sooner public is off the premises, better it will... albeit... not overnight.

[drewski]

gov's chip in a lot for all stadiums but SkyDome and the ACC doesn't see as much public use?

I thought part of the whole grass deal was that the public use was gonna be moved to another stadium

[Shaughno]

gov's chip in a lot for all stadiums but SkyDome and the ACC doesn't see as much public use?

I thought part of the whole grass deal was that the public use was gonna be moved to another stadium

I remember Lamport's new turf was supposed to be something along those lines, no? Wasn't it supposed to double in usage as well to help take the load off BMO?

[brad]

I was pretty suprised last week when my friend told me his TCSSC team was playing at BMO.

I think part of the problem with shifting community use to TFC's training center (if it gets built) is that it's not downtown. There was opposition to this when it was originally proposed for exactly that reason.

[drewski]

seems it might have been intended to "reduce" (not eliminate) public use of BMO

http://www.thestar.com/mls/torontofc/article/702852

Under the three-pronged proposal, which would be completely funded by MLSE, grass would be installed at city-owned BMO Field for $3.5 million, $1.2 million would be spent to put a bubble over Lamport Stadium for year-round public use and an artificial turf field would be built at Lakeshore Collegiate Institute for $800,000.

In the proposal, MLSE said despite the reduction in community use at BMO Field, the plan for Lamport and Lakeshore CI would lead to a 36 per cent increase in public access for everything from exercise classes to youth soccer.

[Shaughno]

seems it might have been intended to "reduce" (not eliminate) public use of BMO

http://www.thestar.com/mls/torontofc/article/702852

I remember Lamport's new turf was supposed to be something along those lines, no? Wasn't it supposed to double in usage as well to help take the load off BMO?

Damn I was pretty close. 36% isn't bad, but I bet that's probably mostly due to Lamport taking basically the full load over the winter that it never used to do.

[tfcleeds]

For all his hand-wringing over public usage of BMO, I don't suspect Wheeler will be dropping out of his pub league match or whatever it is.

[Shaughno]

^^ No of course not, but he said he'd be leaving his six studs at home LOL.

To be fair, I wouldn't stop playing at BMO either, not after dropping probably $150 or whatever that fucking rip off of a league is charging these days.

[Fort York Redcoat]

A minimum of three qualified Directors of each gender.

3 out of 6 Directors across Canada have to be qualified. Shoot for the moon already. The other 3 can still be nepotism. Awesome.

[drewski]

Zac Herold forced to retire via PB, Sharman and wileman on twitter

http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/sh...36#post1027436

[jabbronies]

Zachary Herold Retires Due to Heart Condition


Retirements are often a time of reflection on a professional’s long and storied career. It is rare the word “retirement” is attached to a player at such a young age, but such is the case with Toronto FC defender Zachary Herold. The club announced Monday that the 17 year old Generation Adidas product has had to retire from the game of soccer.


Herold suffers from the condition Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (HCM) – which causes abnormal thickening of a part of the heart muscle. With this condition, under strenuous exercise, there is a risk of developing a potentially fatal irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia. Unfortunately the only way to reduce this risk is to put significant life-long restrictions on exercise.

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[Whoop]

I, too, thought with the new grass, the public use would be out and moved to Lamport. I guess it's just reduced. I didn't realize TSSC had so much pull.

And I agree with Shags, despite his Columbus column from last year, his columns have been pretty decent lately.

[DreFuss]

What Wheeler is arguing in the article is dead on. Even though I'd love to play on that field doesn't mean that I should or that I will.

Is it just the TCSSC or multiple leagues playing on BMO?

[brad]

I, too, thought with the new grass, the public use would be out and moved to Lamport. I guess it's just reduced. I didn't realize TSSC had so much pull.

Probably has nothing to do with pull. There is still community use on the books, I imagine they just rented it.

[Wooster_TFC]

Didn't the Lakeshore Collegiate deal fall through? Joey Pants didn't want the community use moved outside of the Toronto area (and LCI is in Etobicoke, technically still GTA but I'm sure that doesn't count).

I'm fairly certain that the LCI deal was also to build a practice facility there.

[Cashcleaner]

paying for a facility doesn't get the entitlement to destroy it

hence.. sooner public is off the premises, better it will... albeit... not overnight.

Yes...and people could make the same complaint about Toronto FC and their MLS opponents tearing it all up as well.

We have a misplace sense of entitlement here. There wouldn't even be a stadium if the feds, city, and province didn't chip in $45 million.

[Carts]

Wheeler is bang on...

Great article that should at least make the rounds at MLSE in regards to the pitch, its who's using it, and its condition...

Cash is also right - the city paid for the stadium so they're trying to generate revenue still. Do I agree with that? NO. But is it the case? YES...

Hopefully Wheeler's article opens some eyes and they rethink "who" rents the pitch. As Wheeler mentions a proper full pitch 11v11 for the Robbie final, or the OFSA final etc etc is one thing - three games of beer league at once is another...

Carts...

[Shaughno]

Yes...and people could make the same complaint about Toronto FC and their MLS opponents tearing it all up as well.

We have a misplace sense of entitlement here. There wouldn't even be a stadium if the feds, city, and province didn't chip in $45 million.

It's the fucking home field for a professional football club and the home stadium of our NATIONAL team. There is no misplaced sense of entitlement.

We knew there would be community usage going into it, but all along fans, players and even the FO have said they need to remove that option down the road.

... and FYI, I can't think of a single stadium/arena that doesn't have a large chunk of city/provincial/state/federal funding in some way shape or form.

The biggest mistake they made was doubting TFC's popularity and agreeing to 'too much' community use IMO.

[Oldtimer]

Some important news about SUM setting up a Canadian branch:

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com...rticleid=65743

In the wake of MLS’s announcement that it will add a third Canadian team in Montreal, Soccer United Marketing has begun finalizing plans to support the Canadian clubs. SUM, MLS’s marketing agency, plans to open an office in Canada that will sell MLS intellectual property rights

This could add $$$

[Cashcleaner]

It's the fucking home field for a professional football club and the home stadium of our NATIONAL team. There is no misplaced sense of entitlement.

There is if you think all those points will magically negate the fact that none of those organizations fronted even a quarter of the total cost.

We knew there would be community usage going into it, but all along fans, players and even the FO have said they need to remove that option down the road.

Yes we did. And hopefully that plan works out.

... and FYI, I can't think of a single stadium/arena that doesn't have a large chunk of city/provincial/state/federal funding in some way shape or form.

I can. Though I agree it happens far too often. The one good thing about all this is that the city is likely making good money through its profit-sharing deal.

The biggest mistake they made was doubting TFC's popularity and agreeing to 'too much' community use IMO.

For sure.

[James17930]

I can't fucking believe there's still TCSSC shit happening at BMO. When they said 'reduced community use,' I thought they meant high school finals, or something.

Wheeler's right -- this absolutely fucking pathetic, and not what we were led to believe.

[scooter]

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