What ever happens, it should be directed at getting our top players WC ready. I cannot believe how elements want to hold it back. Not shocked, just think its ridiculous.
What ever happens, it should be directed at getting our top players WC ready. I cannot believe how elements want to hold it back. Not shocked, just think its ridiculous.
they're also looking at re-doing the NCC
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/Can...34951-qmi.html
No doubt about that. I hope this brings about the changes on the level Basketball Canada got. They seem to be doing things right now. Isn't Canada's U20 team like 4'th in the world?Originally Posted by DichioTFC
I would prefer PB to stay here
Still, Lenarduzzi probably deserves the director position more than any single person in Canada.
We pretty much knew the changes were coming even before Edmonton was in the picture when both Vancouver and Montreal said they wanted to keep a team in the Div. II league when they made the jump to MLS.
The round robin format is dead with Edmonton joining NASL next season which would make 4 clubs in the NCC and there should be a club to take the Impacts place once they jump in 2012 which would make the number 5. It is at this point, IMO, that if there is not another club to make the NCC a 6 team competition that a club from th CSL should join the NCC.
"But the real problem is that, in a round-robin format, there is no true championship game to decide the winner. There is no cup final."
I don't know, this format seems to work alright in the EPL...
Dominic Maestracci and Victor Montagliani or they (if you believe the v's board) at least worked against the proposals.
It was funny when these guys had to field soft ball questions from the media post Dale Mitchell.
I dream at night that someone will actually call them to the mat and question why they voted against governance reform and ask a few other hard questions.
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Where is J-Mo when you need him.
I think we need Bob Iarusci, a bottle of scotch, and about 2 hour verbal beat-down.
He is the best commentator out of everyone who play by plays for Toronto FC.
So I take it that these guys voted against reform because they would be pretty much out of a job within the CSA.
You got it. Not just themselves, but also their "old boy" network buddies ("old girls" need not apply).
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Great point. The fact that at every turn the existing body wishes to concentrate on the status quo and focus on the grass roots of the game means to me they want to keep themselves and even the game itself out of the national spotlight to enjoy their cushy positions.
I hope the near future can mean the end of scrounging for news for Canada supporters and the National team can get as much exposure to the general public as the club sides are getting.
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Well Maestracci is the f@cker that has been interfering with the ASA to make sure the people who would vote the way he would kept their positions.
I wish someone like Stephen Brunt would do an in-depth article on the whole situation to bring it into the light. Try and force the hand of the CSA to get rid of Maestracci.
This is where journalists will earn respect. Those that step up and highlight the shenanigans at the CSA will earn the respect of soccer fans in this country. Those that keep to themselves and say nothing should be embarrassed.
The question I have is how did it even get to this point. You would have thought that someone would have spoken up or challenged the system YEARS ago.
I'm not surprised. I remember when the problems with the CSA were gaining the spotlight in the summer of 2007. Jerry Dobson conducted a very blunt interview with Montagliani on Soccer Central. Dobson looked pissed, and Montagliani was sweating like the fat pig he is.
Kevan Pipe (the old CSA Prez) was part of the Old Boys club, and he was in there for over 20 years. He supported the system that supported him.
He wasn't all bad - he brought us BMO Field and supported MLS expansion into Canada.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
No it isn't, and it never will be. Get over it. You'll never hear soccer being referred to as Canada's religion.
Love footie, but it's not a competition between that and hockey. Realize that and get over it.
As for the topic on hand... Finally, long overdue. I'm amazed that such incompetence has been around for so damn long though, infuriating.
But with that said could it be that his only motive for supporting MLS expansion into Canada was for personal gain? I mean, thanks for helping make this happen but what was the real motive behind MLS in Canada. Was it to advance the sport in Canada? Was it to help the CSA gain a World Cup spot? Was it to host a World Cup?
Soccer is bigger than hockey in kid participation - perhaps that's what DichioTFC was referring to.
Obviously, in terms of TV and sponsorship revenue, nothing even comes close to hockey in Canada.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
I don't know his motives. All I've stated were the facts.
There is little question that the old guard at the CSA have resulted in Canada being rated in Soccernomics as the most underperforming country in the world for soccer, as opposed to where it should be.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Alright. So now that it looks like the house is being cleaned where does the CSA go from here and how far CAN they go.
What would a new CSA look like? Would it still be CSA or something new like Australia did with their association:
from this:
to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fo...ralia_logo.svg
Actually soccer is bigger than hockey. It has been for a while. Their are lots of stats to back this up.
However it's bigger (greater number) when it comes to participants, obviously not media coverage or sponsorship $$$.
I do think you likely have more kids saying they want to play hockey as a job when they grow up vs. soccer. Most parents see it as a cheap way to get their kids doing something. I mean can you blame them though? Look at the costs b/w both sports. Even Hockey Canada acknowledges equipment costs keep a lot of people away, namely the immigrant populations. Speaking from experience, that's why I never played. I did do skating though.
I don't think it's really a competition and don't see why you can't enjoy both. I do.
Updated article from DeVos. Hopefully this spurs progress here, I'd love to see Canada make the WC in my lifetime!
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/jason...an-soccer.html
In terms of participation numbers, especially at the youth level, soccer has been bigger than hockey for the last 20 years.
Problem is soccer has always been viewed in this country as something "to do" in the summer for a lot of kids who play hockey or something to do so kids don't get into trouble.
That view has to change. Problem is a kid playing soccer in Canada aspires to play where? The odds of a kid playing in Europe are pretty slim and in all honesty a kid won't aspire to play in the CSL.
A kid playing hockey aspires to make it to the NHL if you're a boy or the Canadian Olympic team if you're a girl.
Vic is this cut and paste from an old thread?The stage hasn't changed much but one Canadian city by one more kids are watching things like DeRo and JDG getting paydays here and Gabe Gala scoring against RM. If you want to scoff at the baby steps, go on. Just don't say it's not progress.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
I'm not scoffing at the baby steps. But dammit, it's been the same old story for the last 20 years no?Vic is this cut and paste from an old thread?
I mean when Canada qualified in '86 I didn't think I would never see Canada ever qualify for the WC again...
They'll tease you ever so often - the Holger Osieck era - but really if Canada wants to qualify for 2014... the CSA has to get going on it now.
People always talk about the need for a domestic league but in reality 3 MLS clubs plus some decent USL clubs in other cities is the best we can hope for really.
And the old guard at the CSA has always been trumpeted the "more kids play soccer than hockey" for the last two decades, but never translated it into anything else which has always been a huge disappointment.
Of course, keeping your little fiefdoms strong in spite of the national team or trying to increase the strength of the national team was always more important.
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