not quite but you're right we want a partner. We want to build what we need, and we know that many municipalities have multi field plans. We're saying we should be partners...Originally Posted by olegunnar
I'd love it to be in the portlands by the way. A little windy, and public transit could be better, but part of the city...perfect IMO. We'll see what the various suitors come up with.
I'm curious which other municipalities may be interesting to TFC (from your perspective), if you are at liberty to say...
Portlands. Make it happen Paul!
public transit should eventually improve in the Portlands over time.... I read somewhere there's a proposal to extend the Queens Quay streetcar to Cherry Street... and of course if they ever really get around to building up the Portlands as the plans propose, more streetcars and buses should be added to the area. Right now it's quite a wasteland. The reason I suggested the area where the old Rochester Ferry dock was, is that it's already a developed area. I know that many of the other areas of the Portlands are contaminated and would need lots of soil work... plus given the politics about land use planning around there, it might be best to stick with a lot that already had something built on it.
^ And it is a great location.
Great move by TFC and MLSE. Putting the tools in place for future success cannot be questioned.
I noticed that the 1000-2000 stadium would be enough to seat all members of the supporter groups... possibly for a TFC v. Academy pre-season friendly in the future? Supporter group members only?
Could the Portlands be too windy though?
Windy like BMO!
The terminal for the old Rochester ferry has been getting some use lately by riot cops practicing for the G20.
Cherry Beach is the best dog park in the city, I go there all the time. It would be cool if I could snoop in on practice when I went down there.
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Looks fantastic Paul. Glad to see MLSE looking to invest more money in making the TFC training and academy facilities a shining example for the rest of MLS - much like BMO Field was for a while.
Said it before, I'll say it again: I don't think MLSE are "cheap". You can blame their oversight structure for competitive incompetence, and you can accuse them of being cautious with expenditures, but cheap they are not.
How much do you guesstimate a facility like this will cost to build, Paul?
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The Leafs training facility cost $45M. It should be cheaper to build a few soccer pitches, one with proper grass / drainage. I'm guessing 25-30M range.
But it all depends on how much can be acquired from willing partners.
but, but, I thought MLSE is evil and never spends any money on anything to improve the club or attract talent
Downsview Park...?
Is the big open space there big enough...?
Carts...
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
Parc Downsview Park is huge, unless they've already parceled off too much for big box stores already. It's a pretty good fit space-wise, but access is not the best...
^Only build it at Downview if they eliminate the Dufferin St jog.
Land values / location are the big wildcards here. it all depends. Its very early days yet...we just want to see whats out there.
Long way to go - but you have to start somewhere...
Very impressive plans and ideas...
I hope it happens as quickly as possible (dont worry, when I say quick, I know its a long way from becoming a reality)...
Another big step in the right direction... Well done...
Carts...
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
^ Yeah - welcome to the "Happy" thread
further proof that there are good and smart people at this club who see that the way forward is thru developing a conveyer belt of talent to graduate to the first team (like Manchester City, West Ham, Villa and Boro in the UK).
No doubt, the usual MLSE bashers will find something to complain about tho'
I take the Go train Barrie north and I see Downsview it looks like there adding another Soccer field bringing it to 2 fields, maybe this is a possibility with the Downsview Subway for easy accessibility.
With BMO Field now converted to a grass pitch the community use aspect of the stadium now can’t be met without destroying the playing surface. This means that if constructed, this new facility will include at least two grass fields (and a small stadium for the Academy to play), FieldTurf fields with 365 days availability with the installation of winter bubbles, and an indoor field enclosed within a field house. The plan is to use it as the home of the Academy, TFC’s permanent training facility, and also cater to some of the community usage that now can’t be accommodated at BMO Field.
The “partners” aspect of the proposal is a little vague but it be targeted for example at a municipality that would be interested in offering land and/or funding. It could also be like the scenario for the Maple Leafs where MasterCard purchased naming rights to their new training facility last year.
Hopefully this announcement once and for all shuts up the MLSE naysayers who say they are not interested in spending money on their club. Questioning their hiring policies is a valid critique (Mo Johnston anyone???), but cheap they are certainly not.
An excerpt from my blog about this today. This is great news
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When is the expected start of this project?
I'll bash it if it isn't built in the City of Toronto. LOL
How about Downsview park?
They have already 2 turf fields and they are building another 3 ,one of them with track & field,all you have to do is biuld natural grass fields and you are go to go
But isn't Downsview Park federal land?
I think the East End of Brampton on the Vaughn border right near the junction of the 407/427 wouldn't be too bad, and it's Public Transit accessible from the TTC, Mississauga Transit, York Transit, and Brampton Transit.
Not overly far for anyone.
http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=43...16565&t=h&z=16
no no no we need a roof
Hey, I live close there!
But yeah, there is a lot of land in that area. Also I assume it will be cheap to purchase land there compare to downtown Toronto.
or use Muggs Island or Olympic Island.. then buy a big yacht, dock it at Ontario Place, then shuttle the TFC players over on the yacht!
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&...27595&t=h&z=15
I wonder if York U might make a proposal for this.. they are always grabbing shit that comes up (tennis stadium, trying to get soccer and Argos up there, Archives of Ontario).
The subway is coming, so it might be a decent spot for public transit, with a willing partner. They haven't done anything with the lands up there that already have fields. Might be a little tight in the corner though, and with the subway coming that area could be crazy busy with construction.
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