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    Great love does not exist without joy and without great suffering ,that's why One club is worth only as much as its fans !


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    Star investigation: The high cost of sports charities


    More than half the money raised in the name of charity by Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment was spent on fundraising and administration last year.


    And the story is much the same at many professional sports foundations across Canada, a Star investigation has found.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/investig...charities?bn=1

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    a list of their returns for those interested

    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/s...amp%3Bb%3Dtrue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Star investigation: The high cost of sports charities


    More than half the money raised in the name of charity by Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment was spent on fundraising and administration last year.


    And the story is much the same at many professional sports foundations across Canada, a Star investigation has found.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/investig...charities?bn=1
    Sadly this isn't limited to sports charities. Many of the big name charities spend a at least half if not more of the donations on admin costs.
    That's what's so great about the Terry Fox foundation - they spend .87 cents of each dollar donated on cancer research - as opposed to .65 average for other charities.

    Besides, foundations set up by organizations like MLSE are nothing more than good optics and a giant tax write off for the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian_bhoy View Post
    Sadly this isn't limited to sports charities. Many of the big name charities spend a at least half if not more of the donations on admin costs.
    That's what's so great about the Terry Fox foundation - they spend .87 cents of each dollar donated on cancer research - as opposed to .65 average for other charities.

    Besides, foundations set up by organizations like MLSE are nothing more than good optics and a giant tax write off for the company.
    Bazinga!... but true.

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    wow 2016 and things are looking up --- come on you reds lets go

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    Wow, the Montreal Canadiens' charitable foundation only spends 17% on admin & fundraising though!

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    We shouldn't have to hear things like this from the coach after 4 games of the season.

    "The thing is, and I've said this before, this is almost like pre-season for us and we're trying to find the right balance, the right shape for us, and the right personnel," Preki said. "Hopefully over the next three games we'll settle in the way we want to play, because I don't like changing the system and surprising players with different things."

    I can understand not wanting to change the system but a good tactician should be able to adjust their system to make the most of the strengths of the squad they have assembled...It's going to be a loooooong season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian_bhoy View Post
    Sadly this isn't limited to sports charities. Many of the big name charities spend a at least half if not more of the donations on admin costs.
    That's what's so great about the Terry Fox foundation - they spend .87 cents of each dollar donated on cancer research - as opposed to .65 average for other charities.

    Besides, foundations set up by organizations like MLSE are nothing more than good optics and a giant tax write off for the company.
    Exactly. Yes, obviously we'd like to throw as much money going to the individuals and programs that require it as we can, but these programs also double as advertising and promotional outlets for the clubs themselves and therefore have the associated costs attached as such.
    Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.

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    Save your money for our Terry Fox Foundation Head Shave event this year! We need to top the funds raised from last year! So start saving and start growing your hair! I here Guiness is good for hair growth

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    or give you're money directly to charities the Team Up supports, like KidSport, which helps underprivileged kids play sports

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian_bhoy View Post
    Sadly this isn't limited to sports charities. Many of the big name charities spend a at least half if not more of the donations on admin costs.
    That's what's so great about the Terry Fox foundation - they spend .87 cents of each dollar donated on cancer research - as opposed to .65 average for other charities.

    Besides, foundations set up by organizations like MLSE are nothing more than good optics and a giant tax write off for the company.
    We can't figure out why we're losing so much money to administration costs...let's hire another consultant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzy View Post
    Wow, the Montreal Canadiens' charitable foundation only spends 17% on admin & fundraising though!
    Cool... the Habs are still scum, though.

    And I didn't know that about the Terry Fox Foundation... I'll keep that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Star investigation: The high cost of sports charities


    More than half the money raised in the name of charity by Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment was spent on fundraising and administration last year.


    And the story is much the same at many professional sports foundations across Canada, a Star investigation has found.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/investig...charities?bn=1
    A little bit of perspective. First, the money donated to charity, whether mismanaged or not, does eventually reach its intended destination. And that is always a good thing.

    Second, MLSE has only owned the teams for a few years, and I'm sure Harold Ballard didnt really care about charity so this is a new thing for the general organization.

    Third, a greater percentage of Montreal Canadiens tickets are bought by fans, not the corporate bozos who buy premium Leafs tickets. As well, with the cultural connection to Montreal, the fact that its the only game in town, and that success is in recent memory, fans are willing to donate more. Someone recently donated $27,650 for two Carey Price masks. I'm a diehard Habs fan, but theres no way I'm paying a year's salary for the backup keeper's mask.

    I dunno, I usually buy in to the anti-MLSE stuff but picking on them for their charity work is like beating up on a kid in wheelchair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DichioTFC View Post
    A little bit of perspective. First, the money donated to charity, whether mismanaged or not, does eventually reach its intended destination. And that is always a good thing.

    Second, MLSE has only owned the teams for a few years, and I'm sure Harold Ballard didnt really care about charity so this is a new thing for the general organization.

    Third, a greater percentage of Montreal Canadiens tickets are bought by fans, not the corporate bozos who buy premium Leafs tickets. As well, with the cultural connection to Montreal, the fact that its the only game in town, and that success is in recent memory, fans are willing to donate more. Someone recently donated $27,650 for two Carey Price masks. I'm a diehard Habs fan, but theres no way I'm paying a year's salary for the backup keeper's mask.

    I dunno, I usually buy in to the anti-MLSE stuff but picking on them for their charity work is like beating up on a kid in wheelchair.
    I think the point of the article is that over half the money doesn't reach its intended destination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian_bhoy View Post
    I think the point of the article is that over half the money doesn't reach its intended destination.
    Unless it's intended to go into the pockets of consultants and businessmen...

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    I think you guys should open new thread is off topic and write about charities and taxes as much as you want.

    Leave this for TFC related news!


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    Quote Originally Posted by denime View Post
    I think you guys should open new thread is off topic and write about charities and taxes as much as you want.
    http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/sh...ad.php?t=21418
    "Failure simply isn't an option at this stage. TFC pushed its chips to the middle of the table when it splurged on Bradley and Defoe and reinforced its bet by making savvy acquisitions elsewhere. This collection of players is capable of delivering on the promises made during the close season. There are no more excuses available for TFC. Only success will continue the process of atoning for the past and establishing a higher standard for the future." FOX Sports

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    Post Whitecaps light-years ahead of TFC

    PJ adds insult to injury...


    TFC soccer executive, Tom Anselmi, pronouncing he monitors the message boards for gauging fan reaction is a little preposterous if TFC then base their ultimate decisions on such market surveys. It is a bit like asking players their opinions on what to do. There are simply too many agendas by too many people to make sense of what is credible and what is not. Surely Anselmi does not need to surf fan reaction in regards to the performance of Mo Johnston.
    More complicated decisions require input from a soccer experienced and savvy executive which Toronto FC do not have. When Mo Johnston faces a tough decision in regards to player or coaching personnel where has he been turning? Internally he has no one beyond him and so who knows, maybe he has been reading too much into what the message boards have to say also.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1545656/
    "Failure simply isn't an option at this stage. TFC pushed its chips to the middle of the table when it splurged on Bradley and Defoe and reinforced its bet by making savvy acquisitions elsewhere. This collection of players is capable of delivering on the promises made during the close season. There are no more excuses available for TFC. Only success will continue the process of atoning for the past and establishing a higher standard for the future." FOX Sports

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    And people said I was full of shit when I pointed out that this club seems like it's run by the supporter groups

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCRegina View Post
    And people said I was full of shit when I pointed out that this club seems like it's run by the supporter groups
    I agree, and I insinuated as such in the past as well. It's obvious that some of the player acquisitions last season were initiated by supporter demand. MoJo acquired the likes of DeRo, Gerba, and JDG in an attempt to appease the fan base. It's a double edge sword because on one hand, he could be lauded for his efforts but on the other hand it reeks of incompetence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCRegina View Post
    And people said I was full of shit when I pointed out that this club seems like it's run by the supporter groups

    It's all our fault! It's all our fault! It's all our fault!


    Hey, what a minute...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CretanBull View Post
    It's all our fault! It's all our fault! It's all our fault!


    Hey, what a minute...
    LOL. I'll be the first to admit that I was totally in favour of signing DeRo, Gerba, and JDG.

    Two out of three ain't bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManUtd4ever View Post
    LOL. I'll be the first to admit that I was totally in favour of signing DeRo, Gerba, and JDG.

    Two out of three ain't bad...
    I still do not think, the problem was signing Gerba, it was signing Gerba,doing nothing with him, and then letting him for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMIN8R View Post

    It's a good article:

    It appears one has been set up to fail while the other has been set up to succeed.

    Toronto FC has Mo Johnston for technical expertise then Preki as the coach.

    Vancouver meanwhile, has a slew of experienced, diverse, off field soccer talent beginning with Bob Lenarduzzi the former Canadian International player as the clubs President. Recent Tottenham Hotspur executive Paul Barber is the newly appointed CEO with Tommy Soehn a previous MLS player and coach as the Director of Soccer Operations. All this before we take into account an experienced on field technical staff headed by Teitur Thordarson

    Hard to compare when technical decisions are made at both clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beach_Red View Post
    It's a good article:

    It appears one has been set up to fail while the other has been set up to succeed.

    Toronto FC has Mo Johnston for technical expertise then Preki as the coach.

    Vancouver meanwhile, has a slew of experienced, diverse, off field soccer talent beginning with Bob Lenarduzzi the former Canadian International player as the clubs President. Recent Tottenham Hotspur executive Paul Barber is the newly appointed CEO with Tommy Soehn a previous MLS player and coach as the Director of Soccer Operations. All this before we take into account an experienced on field technical staff headed by Teitur Thordarson

    Hard to compare when technical decisions are made at both clubs.
    And FC Edmonton's coaches are directly from the Eredivisie and the Dutch u20 team, so they're kinda one up on TFC as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CretanBull View Post
    It's all our fault! It's all our fault! It's all our fault!


    Hey, what a minute...
    Didn't say that either.

    I said it was partially our fault.

    I said Mo needs to go, because he caves too easy to our pressure.

    They're idiots for doing it, but really, these player acquisitions that haven't worked out haven't exactly come out of the blue...when someone saw Gerba was available, everyone got excited...he came in and sucked.

    One could make a case that JDG isn't performing that well either and that was another move that was really wanted by the fanbase...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCRegina View Post
    Didn't say that either.

    I said it was partially our fault.

    I said Mo needs to go, because he caves too easy to our pressure.

    They're idiots for doing it, but really, these player acquisitions that haven't worked out haven't exactly come out of the blue...when someone saw Gerba was available, everyone got excited...he came in and sucked.

    One could make a case that JDG isn't performing that well either and that was another move that was really wanted by the fanbase...

    As Paul James said in the article:

    More complicated decisions require input from a soccer experienced and savvy executive which Toronto FC do not have. When Mo Johnston faces a tough decision in regards to player or coaching personnel where has he been turning? Internally he has no one beyond him and so who knows, maybe he has been reading too much into what the message boards have to say also.

    Compare that to Vancouver as he does in the article; President, CEO, Director of Soccer and Coach - all with many years of experience.

    So now TFC has Jim Brennan as assistant GM, too.

    Mo may have to go, but it would be nice if he was replaced with a proper management team and not just another guy in the same position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beach_Red View Post
    As Paul James said in the article:

    More complicated decisions require input from a soccer experienced and savvy executive which Toronto FC do not have. When Mo Johnston faces a tough decision in regards to player or coaching personnel where has he been turning? Internally he has no one beyond him and so who knows, maybe he has been reading too much into what the message boards have to say also.

    Compare that to Vancouver as he does in the article; President, CEO, Director of Soccer and Coach - all with many years of experience.

    So now TFC has Jim Brennan as assistant GM, too.

    Mo may have to go, but it would be nice if he was replaced with a proper management team and not just another guy in the same position.
    I agree with that. Nothing else to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denime View Post

    ha! I knew he looked familiar. He went to my high school...Dude was good..

 

 

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