MLS Rumours Speculates -McBride deal done - 1 player, allocation money and draft pick

[poppamidnight]

My speculating is now if theres no evident IMMEDIATE move with Cunny, that the Chicago player will be Nyarko....

Makes sense that we'd have to rid ourselves of Cunny when we bring in that striker we want to bank our $ on (dp?)

Making Dichio our top-guy off the bench,
also giving us that future (Nyarko + Ibrahim)


Basically (in my eyes) its down to this:
-DP + the future (Nyarko)
-Wolfe/Barret/Mapp

Im thinking it will be the first, simply for the fact that with the second, you dont get the quality... if you went with the second AND ADDED THAT DP, you'd pretty much turn your back on Dichio for any sort of playing time for the rest of the year... Something too cold to do to the player that has come through most often for you when you've needed it

[bangersandmash]

Nyarko is possibly the best deal. He's young, he's a striker and he's Generation Adidas which means (if I'm not mistaken) that his salary doesn't count against the cap. Toronto is already close to the cap. The first $400,000 of a DP's salary counts against the cap. Bringing in another Generation Adidas player gives TFC more wiggle room for bringing in a DP striker (which, given the level of expectation, will involve mo inventing a time machine, travelling back the the 70s and signing Cryuff or no one will be satisfied!). Bringing in a player like Wolfe/Barret/Mapp will mean paying them out of our cap money and reduce the pool of cap money available for a DP.

[TOBOR !]

McBride and Cunningham for Barrett, someone else, cash + pick.

edit : baseless speculation

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Dudes totally unproven tho, i really dont think Nyarko will be in the trade.
Id venture Rolfe and/or Mapp +Allocations+draft pick

[Pachuco]

I know alot of people are saying Mapp. So I ask, what the heck would we do with Mapp? put him on the reserves? I mean, I can't see him playing over Robert and Ricketts and Smith more then holds his own as the winger sub. Can he play as a striker?

[djking2]

^ Agreed. Who have they got they got they'd be willing to trade that would start here?

[poppamidnight]

I know alot of people are saying Mapp. So I ask, what the heck would we do with Mapp? put him on the reserves? I mean, I can't see him playing over Robert and Ricketts and Smith more then holds his own as the winger sub. Can he play as a striker?

Thats my whole reasoning....

Cunny is going to get dumped at one point,

Theres no way theres gunna be any backstabbing and Dichio be completely out of the mix.... He will finish the year at least as our 1st player of the bench...

We're still gunna be playing 1 up front though,

So basically, if that 1 gunna be Rolfe/Barret?
or are you gunna move Amado upfront and put Mapp in his spot?
or are you gunna bring in a DP, and have this Chicago "mystery player" be a prospect?

[Jack]

Nyarko is possibly the best deal. He's young, he's a striker and he's Generation Adidas which means (if I'm not mistaken) that his salary doesn't count against the cap. Toronto is already close to the cap. The first $400,000 of a DP's salary counts against the cap. Bringing in another Generation Adidas player gives TFC more wiggle room for bringing in a DP striker (which, given the level of expectation, will involve mo inventing a time machine, travelling back the the 70s and signing Cryuff or no one will be satisfied!). Bringing in a player like Wolfe/Barret/Mapp will mean paying them out of our cap money and reduce the pool of cap money available for a DP.

Just to clarify, the DP who comes in during the summer window only counts for $200k against the cap.

[Pachuco]

Just to clarify, the DP who comes in during the summer window only counts for $200k against the cap.

for this year, but next year he would obviously count against the full cap, but I know you know that

[Jack]

for this year, but next year he would obviously count against the full cap, but I know you know that

Right, but during the off-season it's a lot easier to get the cap space than in the middle of the season.

That's why I reiterated that point.

[footyfan]

No. A DP counts for $400,000 against your cap, regardless of what you pay him. If we sign a DP now, he only counts for $200k, since it's the halfway point (Cuauhtemoc was in this boat last year).

I'd say that DPs seem to be having some pretty decent success. Angel is good, Blanco has been great in Shitcago. Denilson was a bomb, but he's gone. Becky's been good...without him and Landycakes, the Gals are a USL Div 1 team at best.

Gallardo and Emilio are doing quite well for United

[Broadview]

Just to clarify, the DP who comes in during the summer window only counts for $200k against the cap.

Anyone know what date this takes effect?

[Pachuco]

Gallardo and Emilio are doing quite well for United

you wouldn't have said that 3 weeks ago. Wait until they prove they can be consistent this year because you make such statement.

[Jack]

Anyone know what date this takes effect?

Summer transfer window. Basically, now.

[Lucky Strike]

you wouldn't have said that 3 weeks ago. Wait until they prove they can be consistent this year because you make such statement.

+1...

[Ossington Mental Youth]

you wouldn't have said that 3 weeks ago. Wait until they prove they can be consistent this year because you make such statement.

Pretty much
I was just looking at the chicago website
and barretts got 5 goals and 3 assists in 12 games (much like Dichio but younger) and Rolfe has 2 goals and 2 assists in 8 games (or summat)

[arsenal]

Pretty much
I was just looking at the chicago website
and barretts got 5 goals and 3 assists in 12 games (much like Dichio but younger) and Rolfe has 2 goals and 2 assists in 8 games (or summat)

If looking at stats .... keep in mind Rolfe has played most of the season on the right side of midfield.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

If looking at stats .... keep in mind Rolfe has played most of the season on the right side of midfield.

Yep, out of position (sorta)

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Tho not the greatest team in the world they are at least organized and have depth.
Lookie lookie who got called up
http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=2237

[S_D]

some interesting comments by fire fans on Ives article "what's wrong with the fire":

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_b...up-with-t.html

for some of them McBride can't get there fast enough
for others Barrett can't get out of there fast enough