I almost forgot:Originally Posted by Gazza
I'm also pretty sure the public don't pay good money for tickets to come and watch you do a good job at work.
- Scott
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I almost forgot:
I'm also pretty sure the public don't pay good money for tickets to come and watch you do a good job at work.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
Wasnt only flags -- all drums had to be checked -- they sent me to gate 4 -- which they had no idea -- they sent me to a tent between gate 3 and 4 to sign in -- 1 guy for a group of us -- then they had to escort us in -- this is bullshit -- why did they have to check the drum? well they didnt even check it -- just had to sign
it made me miss the banners
this was absolute bullshit -- dont tell me we have to do this every game
I thought Marcel and Mike were gonna blow a gasket when they wouldnt let us in with the flags and drums.. Think Marcel was on the cusp of losing it.. lol.
definitely was a pain in the ass.. I got help up and missed pregame and anthems and unrolling of the Yoda banner in my section 109/110/111
brutal!!
Alright, Mo will be gone then you will find something else to protest about...
i wish you luck.
Actually thats a good idea. Lets make a banner about the line ups for the bathroom or the beer stands lol... I think it'd be funny as hell.
The point is if you opt to not buy your ticket.. it doesnt go to magical no buy ticket money mlse land... someone else buys it and the only winner is MLSE. I cat speak for ayone else.. but if they fired Mo and the next guy sucked, I would protest him too.. if he didnt.. I wouldnt.. its not like this happened over night.. ot took 3 years of a crap product..
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You're acting as though protesting Mo's continued employment is unreasonable, when even you have conceded you think Mo should be fired - you're just haggling about the fans deciding to make their feelings known in public.
If there's nothing to be upset about - the team is playing well, the front office are doing a competent, professional job, and the tickets aren't wildly overpriced, then I doubt people will have much to protest over.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
That is stupid, and embarrassing.
This is disgraceful!
but.. but, mo... he's a human being!
I was pretty stupid.
I don't know what they were thinking.
They better get it sorted out.
To be honest, my only problem was believing you should be able to walk into a stadium with signs saying "fire mo" or "mo must go"
I believe he should've been let go a long time ago. But don't be naive enough to think it is your right to bring in anti mo banners. Of course they're going to be stopped...and good for the lucky few that got through!
That's all i'm saying. Protesting is our right. But inside the stadium is MLSE's turf. I just read an article on how great of a job MLSE believes they're doing because they profit on all of their sport's teams. They're oblivious because they keep raking it in at the gates! So stop going to the gates! Heads will roll! It can't happen at leaf games, but it can happen at TFC games for sure!
Gazza I've read all your comments and your sounding like a fool...
We don't want to stop going to games or supporting our club, but MO as every other personallity in Sports, Showbiz, or Politics is open season for public praise or ridicule.
Don't know what you do for a living, but if your not in the catagories noted above, you can't compare what ever you do to a public figure.
Is Beach Red (MO) ?
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No one is arguing that what they are doing is illegal. They are arguing that it's a really lame dick-move, and censorship - which it most definitely is.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
You make yourself look like a fool if you're unhappy with a product and you keep buying into that product.
I work in business and i know that if consumers are unhappy with my product, i'll know it from lack of production, not by a bunch of whiners with signs telling me i should fire my gm. If they stop buying what i'm selling, then i'll know that my gm is doing a poor job and he'll be let go.
Fine... next banner...
but dont you see? MLSE is doing US a favour! we have no right to complain! (even though we pay for our seats and they profit from our patronage, just ignore that part)
HHhhhhmmmm.... sounds like you're descibing a strike scene to me... a bunch of people with signs to fire their GM...
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I'm gonna be honest, but with the ways things have been going down over the past few weeks, I'm feeling that as well. I mean; yes, we're being asked to take part in some press conferences and have been given some great opportunities to speak with the media and the league and put our thoughts out for others to see and hear, but one could easily argue that its an attempt to appease the group in some way. By the way, I'm not making that accusation myself, just throwing out a hypothetical.
I think the group could find itself in a situation where we'll become the face of the team and will be used to further their marketing and branding, but have little clout on anything of real substance. I dunno. I'm in a melancholy mood tonight, despite the win.
I think we're approaching "push-comes-to-shove" time.
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
Haha...you're onto something! only OUTSIDE of the stadium where it is allowed.
Good thing I didn't bring my flag today.
so will my 75 mile bastard flag not be allowed in? It says bastard on it.
Wow, I've been insulted a lot in my life, but that's low.
The sign should have been allowed in. The field is only rented, it's owned by us, paid for with taxpayer dollars. Any sign that it's legal to walk around with on the street with should be allowed into BMO.
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But your initial argument had nothing to do with legal technicalities. Your entire point was about treating Mo with humanity, and various "how would you like it" scenarios about people saying you should be fired at your place of work.
Now that position has been whittled down to "well, all of that's fine, but in the stadium it's illegal!", which isn't really a point of view at all - it's just a legal clarification, that no one needed clarification on.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
I don't know... if might be deemed "offensive".
Don't forget to thank our buddy Paul Beirne for giving us the heads up.
Oh wait... I'm sure he didn't know anything about this.
The last couple pages have been some good reading
One day you'll learn Gazza.
vic.... i'm going to kick your batty.
*sigh* before all the discussion of the validity of calling mo's job came into question..
i can see MLSE's point about censoring something like "fire mo" or whatever. as much as i would an upgrade in that position of our team, allowing signs like that (especially on a game that was televised internationally) makes the ownership look bad more than anything else. i know people who went to raptors game, saw the "Fire Babcock" signs and never went back (they argued that they shouldn't spend money for a team that their own fans didn't support).
the number one job in business is capturing value from the consumer. and if the consumers are ridiculing the product, the likelihood of capturing value from the consumer is thereby diminished.
personally, i didn't mind the mo must go banners, but I think it's poor taste; i'm sure they know by now that mo is on notice from us, they're most likely waiting to see how the season plays out before making a decision on mo.
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