BingoOriginally Posted by jloome
Bingo
This is what I am leaning towards.
I want good relations with the front office. I support having the group cooperate and coordinate with the team. But there is a growing sentiment among this group and others that we are expected to "cheer on cue" for the organization and then when things happens that damage our efforts, we get gifts of appeasement.
To be frank, I'd rather not have the appeasement and have things done right in the first place. This is not their first time at the dance.
Hmmmmm... I'm swaying here, but I'll see what happens. I accept that something happened and policy was changed, but the coincidences/recurrences here are troubling...
As mentioned, there's more then just flags at stake here. There's the identity of a group involved. Favorable intentions/eyes or not.. Something needs to happen here. Was it coincidence? Was it planned?
Those of us in early, talking with the escort and the two guys watching us, got no messages/signals etc towards what was coming. We were very clear on our way out that flags were coming back via the march.. 'Oh no problem, Have fun guys see you in an hour'.. So someone's not telling the truth here.
So to be clear.....if next game someone brings a Mo Must Go banner, it will be allowed in?
Reading between the lines it actually sounded more like, "Wtf? Mo went and gave security special orders thinking nobody would notice! Fucker."
hahahaha... that's crafty!
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well banners might need to be brought in before the game, but it sounds like there would be no objections on the subject matter.
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So this is the only flag banned? We were all made to wait for what? They want to make the unique atmosphere we have more difficult to achieve? I'll say what I said to "Dave" and "Chris" last night: "All you had to do is tell us to get there earlier."
That doesn't solve censorship but there's been enough suggestions on how to get things into the stadium.
I like Hitcho's proposal.
Weeeee shall not be gagged.
Whether one wants to give Mo time or no they can agree with the above.
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yes. Its been allowed in the past and should have been allowed.
thanks paul
A spirited 'woo' for that.
How about a banner of Paul's stapler?
nawww... even I know that would be going too far.
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Two stick.
Have you seen my "stapler"?
Forts, I sometimes think you're my twin that was stolen from England at birth...
We are the Angry Mob, we read the papers every day
We like who we like, we hate who we hate
But we're also easily swayed
Classy. Issue is dead as far as I'm concerned.
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You'll have to excuse me Paul if I don't believe a single word of what you're saying. You say "screw up", but I say "completely intentional act". The club knew there was going to be a lot of camera time spent on the South End supporters (incidentally - there was). And you knew that some anger was building up over the last couple of days. And with that in mind, you made it a point to keep out any dissenting displays from the South Stand as to save face on television - notably ESPN.
"Screw up" makes it sound like it was some honest miscommunication. A simple mistake, that's all. Yeah, I'm not buying it. It was an awfully convenient time to make one of these mistakes.
And of course you'll fix things. You'll fix it because it won't really matter now. The next few games won't have the same sort of broadcast coverage as the game against the Union did, so a few critical banners here or there aren't a problem.
Last edited by Cashcleaner; 04-16-2010 at 12:52 PM.
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Seconded. "Oops...your banners didn't get on national television in the U.S...sorry about that."
Job well done.
The funny thing is that RPB as a group... almost unanimously agreed not to do any anti-Mo stuff on our Home Opening... (decided on our member's only section)
Very sad to know that we were being shaken down... this is not the path we want to go though...
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So there wasn't a single ESPN camera available to pickup the dissent from the north west corner?
They are on the camera side, so the cameras would have a tougher time to catch that.
Face it... the FO wants us to be cheerleaders, not supporters.
They must have a handheld on the other side, as they used to be able to show that corner.
there was a certain CBC presenter taking pictures
don cherry?
actually, I don't know who you mean. Point is, if ESPN wanted to show dissenting messages, I'm sure they had the wherewithall (sp?) to get the shot from a camera on the east.
It was during the playoffs... when the Leafs actually qualified for the playoffs. Caused a bit of a stink because it was combined with the sale of tickets by postal code (playoff tickets for the Ottawa games were only made available to fans who lived in the Sens region)
And even with that the arena was over half Leafs fans
After four years something like this is completely unacceptable. There is no way this was a simple matter of miscommunication. It was a blatant act of censorship. Paul can't come on here, apologize, say it was a screw up, and magically expect the issue to vanish. This is not a dead issue.
In fact. An appropriate banner next match would make mention of the censorship. Let's hope it's not confiscated. The FO is treading a very thin line, and are rapidly losing my respect.
and he's not expecting it to vanish. What matters is how things work at the next game.
We can scream until we're blue in the face, but until that game it's all just talk.
He's admitted there was a screwup, and if that screwup is fixed the next game... then the issue is dead.
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Wait until the next ESPN game.
Right now, everything will go back to normal.
The games are on GolTV, the directors can control the shots, make everything pro-TFC.
But when the broadcaster doesn't care... expect another "miscommunication".
guys....
if that were the case they wouldnt have allowed a lot.
At the end of the day there was a call to check banners. This wasnt communicated properly and the end result was last night.
It will be fixed, rest assured, never again for any game, on TV or not this wont happen again!
end of.
please ease this talk of conspiracy theories as its really not worth it
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Just food for thought, and I may have been seeing things, but I am 99% sure there was a camera on a platform at the half line on the EAST SIDE stands. Looking dead on at the tunnel!
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