It's not His decision to let him on the fieldOriginally Posted by boban
But He will be watching
It's not His decision to let him on the field
And if you read my comment I mentioned the overseas venues mentioned had "state of the art" as well. Meaning the NSS technology is great. I was commenting more on the personal entrusted to maintain it, which in Europe I would bet they are much more experienced.
Awesome!! LOL
Sorry, my grammar was off.It's not His decision to let him on the field
I meant what if Preki let's him on the field. Don't you want Him to still bless it?
The problems with the pitch at Wembley largely stem from the overuse of the stadium. The pitch is constantly being covered up or removed so that the venue can host concerts and various other non-sporting events. The FA have also been aggressively scheduling at Wembley football, rugby and even NFL matches more frequently than is ideal due to a pressing need to pay off the debts associated with the construction of the stadium. What's happened is that the pitch has effectively never had a chance to bed in peacefully and sufficiently since the stadium was opened. The pitch at the Emirates pretty clearly shows that it's more than possible to have a world-class playing surface in a prodigious, modern stadium in that part of the world.
Let's assume the BMO groundsman is the most incompetent moron on planet earth. His chances of maintaining a pristine pitch in a summer season with max sunlight, no roof, and max ventilation are still better than the best expert in the world trying to grow grass in a winter season with minimal sunlight and no ventilation.
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Anyone have any updated pictures of the stadium, and the pitch?
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
I'm not saying things won't work, just merely supporting esco's argument that things are hardly fait de complete - as some here seem to think. The thing still has to take and stand up to the pounding. Let's hope it does.
Anyone taking bets on how long it will be before our beautiful new turf is burned by a flare?
^^ Hopefully not even one game.
There are lots of terrible fields in open stadiums.
Remember what Saputo looked like when the new grass debuted in that Canada-Honduras game?
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
Saputo could have used a nice 3.5million system underneath.
It's interesting though that Saputo laid it down in I believe the fall (sept or oct). Then they it got covered in snow. Then the next spring they had awful rain but had to start playing immediately and it was pockmarked. NYRB laid their grass in the fall too and had problems when spring arrived. It seems that's not a good plan. It's almost like you should drop it down earlier or wait until spring.
I wonder if Saputo will fork out the millions for the system BMO has when he gets into MLS.
Name me a terrible field in an open stadium that plays a summer season and has 5 million worth of technology underneath it. Don't be fooled. Saputo Stadium's pitch was done on the cheap. They just just laid sod on regular top soil like you'd do in your front yard. They didn't even have a sand soil base or anything. They had a wet summer and lost control of the soil moisture levels which left the roots shallow. The vacuum drainage system at BMO prevents this from happening.
Cloudy with 30% chance of showers. That means odds are it wil be dry. And if it does rain, not a substantial amount. A complete non-issue with the current forecast.
Since when does a chance of showers = rain? I don't think there's a day in England when there isn't a chance of showers ...
^Do you two guys (nfitz and Canary) work for the team? Just wondering.
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
Water table ? The water table ain't gonna get within 100 yards of this pitch. This is just sod sitting atop a laboratory.
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I'm really not concerned about the pitch at all.
Like TOBOR said - this isn't just grass, laid on the ground. This is grass, growing in a giant concrete, weather-controlled petri dish. This is miles superior to Saputo's setup, and miles superior to the old CNE stadium.
If the pitch manages to go to hell, it will be an epic fuck-up. I trust that MLSE wouldn't spend all of the money to do this, and then put some dipshit in charge of upkeep.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
Hey, if it's 19 degrees in April, and it showers a bit. I'll still be happy!
Oh, it's just fun. (tries to sew sacrificed chickens back together)
Amen Brother!
No it's not necessary.
It's fun!
Yeah thank god these guys aren't prone to those things.
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Clever joke, but it discards the context of those two sentences. If you believe MLSE are just a single-minded profit machine, then it logically follows that they would want to protect their investment, and not spend several million dollars on a grass pitch, then put Carl Spackler in charge of maintenance.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
Shakes said it well.
MLSE is run by a pension fund. They maximize profit. One way of doing that is by minimizing cost. They're not going to install a grass pitch over and over and over. They're gonna do it right the first time.
Putting in a grass pitch is a lot different than building a winning football club.
And what you an him fail to realize is that whoever they put in, no matter how experienced, is less experienced at maintaining a pitch than the people maintaining Wembley, or what ever big football ground in Europe where they have problems with the pitch.
And your "They're gonna do it right the first time" line makes me chuckle.
Why did they hire Babcock or JFJ then if they do things right the first time?
Remember when they said ACC wasn't suitable for hockey, then they bought the Raptors and suddenly it was fine?And what you an him fail to realize is that whoever they put in, no matter how experienced, is less experienced at maintaining a pitch than the people maintaining Wembley, or what ever big football ground in Europe where they have problems with the pitch.
And your "They're gonna do it right the first time" line makes me chuckle.
Why did they hire Babcock or JFJ then if they do things right the first time?
The funny thing is that the ACC is known for having shit ice.
Yup, I remember that clearly.
Now people on here seem to think it is primarily a hockey arena all of a sudden because of that.
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And what you fail to realize, is that the problem with the surface at Wembley has nothing to do with the maintenance of the grass. It has to do with misuse, and overuse, as someone here has already previously explained.And what you an him fail to realize is that whoever they put in, no matter how experienced, is less experienced at maintaining a pitch than the people maintaining Wembley, or what ever big football ground in Europe where they have problems with the pitch.
And your "They're gonna do it right the first time" line makes me chuckle.
Why did they hire Babcock or JFJ then if they do things right the first time?
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
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You think growing grass is easier than winning football championships. pfft as if!
Have we even heard of any Groundskeeper being hired? or anything about the upkeep?
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