Edsun Buddle. .
whO DID WE GET RID OF HIM FOR AND WHY?
he had 2 hat tricks last season, was close to the top in goals. . and ALREADY has 3?. . MLS says he will be in the running for Golden Boot!
I mean. . I just dont understnad!
WE also had Connor Casey. . why did we let HIM slip through our fingers?
WHAT THE!!??!!!
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We traded him for Tyrone Marshall.
Edson will always be in the TFC history book, as he assisted on TFC's 1st ever goal.
He was not productive in his time here. It took the service of David Beckam to break him out of his slump, and once that happened there has been no turning back.
He's a poacher, not a creator. He never got the service he needed here.
Even the service of Donovan. You see that second goal last night he really just made Buddles job 10 times easier.
we can add cunny and the dude casey from colorado into that mix
Buddle, Casey and Cunningham are strikers who have seen a lot of success since leaving TFC. I believe that Casey wanted a trade to Colorado because his wife had a job there, so he's not really a good example of "failing at TFC". The other two however were SHIT with us - and so naturally we traded them. Perhaps their success away from TFC is because they play on great teams and get much better service.
^ yes, Casey's wife's family lived in Colorado...he requested a trade and we accomodated him. Cunningham was shit and was practically run out of town. Buddle didn't show enough, but he wasn't really given much of an oportunity to prove himself either.
thats funny how that happends to us...i really think that we had just has much talent has dallas and colorado have...the casey thing about his wife...that could be MO being MO...i've heard that line before here...
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^ Is that Mitch Peacock behind him?
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Not sure, I took the pic after the D.C. United game in 2007...he was warming up for the reserve match and told him to give me a thumbs up hahaOriginally Posted by Shakes McQueen
so aside from barrett who can't finish, every striker just hasn't had the service? doesn't that condemn the midfield as well.. which is supposed to be our one strong point.
so our defense has been shit. our strikers don't get service, and the ones who do can't finish. the midfield can't create enough quality chances for the strikers. we seem to continually be lacking good wide play. this is pretty sad!!
of course the sheer number of players who have played for us in 3 years means we continually change our strengths/weaknesses. way too much turnover on this roster. we need some damn stability for a few years.
it's not just the service though. Maybe some of you have selective memories, but all of those strikers have missed easy chances at TFC over the years... chances set up by midfielders.. chances a good striker would easily make.
Remember Dichio feeding Cunningham with headed balls and passes in the first year of Cunny at TFC? Cunny went in 1-on-1 with the keeper many times and failed.
Secondly, TFC isn't the only place guys like Cunningham and Buddle have failed. Buddle had only 6 goals in 28 games with New York in 2006. Cunningham had years where he didn't crack 8 goals.
These guys are naturally flaky and don't succeed in every environment. Even Cunningham looked like a loser in Dallas until they got rid of Kenny Cooper and Cunny was put into the perfect situation.
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Its no curse. Carver and Johnston are just shit heads who nobody liked playing for.
strong arguments......
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hindsight is 20/20......that is all
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Any idiot could score with Beckham placing the ball on their feet every game.
I never liked him during his time here, he never ran for balls and always looked lackadaisical, i still wouldnt want him here now regardless of how many hes scored in his two last games
True, but buddle is on a tear already this year, 3 in two games. I was having the same thoughts about Buddle watching the highlights from the game on Gol tonight. I wish we could have had a true midfielder for him to develop under while he was with us, he could have done alot here.
Yes! 100% confident about that!
Buddle is streaky, just like Cunningham. One year, he'll do well, the next, not so good. IIRC last year he didn't have a good year, though he was injured part of the season
Kinda like Gerba in terms of work rate actually
what ifs and more what ifs... hindsight. meh
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I suspect it's more likely that the system our players were coached into, played a big role in these guys not flourishing in Toronto.
At the same time, in the cases of guys like Buddle, and ESPECIALLY Cunny, I really have trouble pointing the finger anywhere but right back at them.
And I hate the counter-argument of "oh well, it's clear Cunny didn't like Carver, so would you play hard for a coach you didn't like?" as though that's an acceptable excuse. In any other professional sport in the world, not playing hard because you're sulking over the coaching staff, would quickly turn you into a toxic, unmoveable asset - and when coupled with low production, would likely get you perma-benched, or sent to the minors.
Cunny had many memorable chances that were his to miss - they weren't the fault of the club, the coaching, or the system. So many sitters, and easy finishes, that he botched - NCC two years ago, anyone?
Conor Casey wasn't lazy, but he wanted out of TO for personal reasons, so there isn't any controversy there.
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For sure, but it can't be argued he is a far better player and more consistent with service, but in the same situation, any player would be better with better service. It's all certainly hindsight, we have what we have and I still love them all (Even Garcia though I want his ass gone, he's still wearing the crest
and had coach's who had a less dinosaur idea of the game.....
It's simple. Look there were a few guys here who shit the bed, but the vast majority who went on to play well were simply mis-used and coached by idiots here.
Because the way we assemble our team on a weekly basis is roughly equivalent to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBFzerJ1Ss
It's not like they are finishing more of their chances once they leave TFC, they are just getting more chances.
The midfield we had in years 1 and 2 couldn't create against a USL team, forget MLS sides. The only way we could break down Montreal was to play wiff ball in from the wings. Not only was this brutally predictable and easy to defend against, our wingers were slow and couldn't cross for shit!
Those guys don't create goals for themselves and in Toronto they had a ridiculous amount of chances. Buddle was ran out of town for being lazy, same with Cunny and Casey wanted to be on the West Coast.
I do not lament these guys not being on our team at all. Cunningham didn't give a shit, Conor didnt want to be here and only Buddle looked like he had a chance to do something but we needed a CB which turned into Marshall.
Most teams dont play a Latin game that many people covet. Seattle is the closest thing and that has a lot to do with the their Fred's.
Buddle would have dont better with the current mid we have and Barrett opening up the field with his pace and work ethic. Nonetheless, TFC is going to a slower paced more disciplined way of playing, putting nine behind the ball and slowly moving the ball up field with the occasional ball over the top for a player to run onto.
buddle was god aweful for us. we had shitty midfield that couldnt really build a good attack and supply balls to feet for good shots on net. so all he did was stand around and look lost. never really tried to create anything, the fans got quite sick of him pretty fast. so he got traded. not sorry to not have buddle here anymore.. not sorry to not have cunny or conor casey either
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