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    Default Politics and Supporter Groups. New Article.



    UNCLE HARPIE WANTS YOU to read the latest article posted on http://www.ultras114.com

    Enjoy.

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    Uncle Harpie has lost my fucking vote in the next election.

    And I'm from the fucking West.

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    This goes hand in hand (not the Church street way hahah) with this thread. http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=1636

    Maybe we should make friends with St. Pauli and Livourno fans. :dunno:




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    Good article. Pretty much what I expected on the Che banner's explanation.

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    Che was "leftist".. Your anti-gay statements make you right wing... you probably don't know what you are anyways...but again who cares if ultras are left or right

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    you forgot to mention that while che fought against oppressive government, he did a pretty nice job of setting one up in Cuba.

    just saying.

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    ha! nice article. Made me laugh, but still made a strong point. the undercovers don't really have guns on them in the stands do they??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipityflu View Post
    you forgot to mention that while che fought against oppressive government, he did a pretty nice job of setting one up in Cuba.

    just saying.
    LOL! More than a little ironic. Lots of people forget that or overlook it.

    It reminds me of a quote I read in Time magazine, from a Chinese official commenting on the mourning parents of children lost in poorly built schools and who were protesting against the government for it. He said "They are disrupting society, the government will fix their problems." Sure they will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipityflu View Post
    you forgot to mention that while che fought against oppressive government, he did a pretty nice job of setting one up in Cuba.

    just saying.
    If I remember correctly, Cuba became communist after Che's death. To turn commie was not even Castro's goal, but rather socialist for greater equality.
    When the US snubbed Castro, he turned to the USSR and well the rest speaks for itself...

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    The US never "snubbed" Cuba, they have always been against the regime because the US supported the previous the corrupt pro-US regime of Batista that was overthrown by Castro. Their relationship was cold even before it started.

    Che is often referred to as a socialist, but for practical terms, he was a communist. "Socialist" is simply the general term used at the time that communists used to describe themselves. Remember the "USSR" stands for the United Soviet Socialist Republic. And Che is the one who established the relationship between Cuba and the Soviet Union. To state Che was anything other than a communist is to be a little naive.

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    Every time I see a Che banner in football I shake my head.... To me it reeks of wannabe... Why not have a Castro banner instead of Che?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluSH View Post
    Every time I see a Che banner in football I shake my head.... To me it reeks of wannabe... Why not have a Castro banner instead of Che?
    Why not have neither?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluSH View Post
    Every time I see a Che banner in football I shake my head.... To me it reeks of wannabe... Why not have a Castro banner instead of Che?
    Theres no wannabes here Flush, remember that some of us were born and grew up in Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

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    how about a John Diefenbaker banner?
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    I say if you want a banner that tells people that you don't take shit, and you do things your own way, then it should be of Han Solo!

    Or... if you want to continue with the Anti-Gay thing then you could also have a banner of Andrew Dice Clay.

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    the fact is the che has transended any socialist trappings..he is now a marketing tool. i think he would have had a wee problem with that.

    all undercover police carry handguns. that shouldn't be up for debate. having a need for undercover cops in the stands is totally different however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatpicker View Post
    I say if you want a banner that tells people that you don't take shit, and you do things your own way, then it should be of Han Solo!
    This is something I could get behind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarez View Post
    Theres no wannabes here Flush, remember that some of us were born and grew up in Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
    And most of us Latinos come from countries that have bounced back between socialist and fascist so many times it has made our heads spin and for us, Latin political figures only bring bitterness to mind. We see the use of the Che figure around us in the world as the ultimate in selling out to the trendy marketing culture.

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    can't this board let one week go by without having a Che discussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    The US never "snubbed" Cuba, they have always been against the regime because the US supported the previous the corrupt pro-US regime of Batista that was overthrown by Castro. Their relationship was cold even before it started.

    Che is often referred to as a socialist, but for practical terms, he was a communist. "Socialist" is simply the general term used at the time that communists used to describe themselves. Remember the "USSR" stands for the United Soviet Socialist Republic. And Che is the one who established the relationship between Cuba and the Soviet Union. To state Che was anything other than a communist is to be a little naive.
    What I'm specifically speaking about is Castro wanted to meet w/ the US prez (might've been Kennedy) to discuss trade, but when they didn't even give him the time of day because of Castro's overthrow of the prior pro-US govt. he went to the USSR for trade and well you can all see the rest as it is now.

    Socialists aren't commies, neccessarily. Look at Venezuela and Bolivia for example.

    Anyways, enough Spanish American politics. To sum it up: it's messed up!

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    Whether Che was good or bad is a never ending discussion that will just make the mods close this thread.

    I agree on Che's face being used to perpetuate profits in a system he fought hard against. But I really don't give a shit. Why should I take off my Che shirt because some blonde bimbo has his face on her Prada purse? I know what my sentiments are towards him and the Cuban revolution, so I sleep well at night knowing I'm not a hypocrite.

    I love it when people see me with a Che shirt and try to act like smartasses by thinking I don't know who he is. Stepping up to a Poli Sci major who loves history and politics more than anything else with that attitude is a verbal death sentence.

    Irregardless, I'm glad you enjoyed the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCBrigade View Post

    Irregardless, I'm glad you enjoyed the article.
    Irregardless isn't a real word.



    you knew I'd be in here with something negative to say.
    other than that... nice article
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkdale View Post
    Irregardless isn't a real word.



    you knew I'd be in here with something negative to say.
    other than that... nice article
    Ship this insurgent off to Guantanamo Bay.

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    i would like to see a trailor park boys banner myself!!! Fo Sho Bro!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrillgill View Post
    i would like to see a trailor park boys banner myself!!! Fo Sho Bro!!!
    That would be f*ckin awesome!
    Kahayki pants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCBrigade View Post
    Whether Che was good or bad is a never ending discussion that will just make the mods close this thread.
    Don't worry(buraz)I want close this thread because of Che discussion as long it's discussion and not personal insults and so on.
    BTW Nice article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    The US never "snubbed" Cuba, they have always been against the regime because the US supported the previous the corrupt pro-US regime of Batista that was overthrown by Castro. Their relationship was cold even before it started.

    Che is often referred to as a socialist, but for practical terms, he was a communist. "Socialist" is simply the general term used at the time that communists used to describe themselves. Remember the "USSR" stands for the United Soviet Socialist Republic. And Che is the one who established the relationship between Cuba and the Soviet Union. To state Che was anything other than a communist is to be a little naive.
    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics actually

    Not the same as the Judean People's Front, or the People's Front of Judea.
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    Good article. Interesting read and makes a very good point about TFC supporters.
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    I take no issue with the Che banners.

    I think theyre about as political as the hipsters wearing Che t-shirts walking around campus. i.e. not very.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikemusic View Post
    I take no issue with the Che banners.

    I think theyre about as political as the hipsters wearing Che t-shirts walking around campus. i.e. not very.


    I would have to agree with you. I'd say about 90% of people that wear Che shirts or pins or whatever don't know a thing about the guy. It's just such a popular pic... marketable i guess, trendy. FASHIONABLE!!! LOL!

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    Maybe this should be moved to the off topic section since I haven't seen TFC mentioned in here since the article..

 

 

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