i didnt see anything to suggest he didnt deserve a spot he had some good runs and passes and would be adequate cover at a cheap price im sure AND would be willing to prove himself, i think ill trust Preki's view over many others in this forum
i didnt see anything to suggest he didnt deserve a spot he had some good runs and passes and would be adequate cover at a cheap price im sure AND would be willing to prove himself, i think ill trust Preki's view over many others in this forum
Exactly. All this talk of having "faith" is getting people mixed up. Having faith and being supportive is one thing ... being realistic and not naive is another. Why is it that we are constantly being asked to have faith in some extraordinary reversal of fate at pretty much all the points in the season and the pre-season? At some point you have to go "Okay ... I've seen enough ... don't need to follow it through the absolute end to see where this is going".Originally Posted by H Bomb
It is important to notice trends as soon as they begin to form and not disregard them in the name of faith ... that is called burying your head in the sand. Tomorrow's events are not totally independent of the events that happened today. There is a very strong correlation between the two. I think it was Roogsy who made a comment some time ago about how if someone claims to finish a building in 5 years, you don't have to give them absolute faith till the very last day of the fourth year and hope that they somehow finish the building competently and on time despite what they have shown during the course of that time period.
yeah I'm sure we had a direct influence in the acquisition of these players
Positives on field precede positives in press, Preks.
What they see is what they write.
I have thought this before. Then I figured that MO was stock piling Canadians. With Van. next season and possibly Mon. after that it would make sense considering the roster rules. He could hold those players for ransom. Maybe if that was so Garber might have forced Mo's hand. I mention that because it makes no sense to release Gerba or trade Serioux when we are sorely lacking in both positions. That being said I will repeat myself and say that JDG was the worst mistake ever made by this club. We had a competent vet DM in Robbo. An up and coming rookie DM in Cronin and we waste a DP spot on a DM. In this league you need quality striking and serviceable defending. A DM accomplishes neither. I could accept a DP 'keeper or even a CB if they were the quality of a Jap Stam or something but DM? It raises the curious question of whether Mo does put more emphasis on pleasing fans as the seats are filled already and ML$E can't make more money so just try and keep the punters happy. It is also a built in defense. "You wanted this team and look, they still can't win." As for the current direction? Who knows what the "F" is going on.
preki's bitching about the media in Toronto? seriously? this is nothing new. deal with it and move on.
It's a two-way street Preki. We do understand that you are in a difficult position at the moment but we also know that Johnston made the bed, so to speak.
If you want less negativity, stop handing us shit and telling us its roses.
My concern here is that Cann and Saric know how poor our roster depth is and could potentially play hard-ball knowing we desperately need players. Then Mo pays over the odds, gives them guaranteed contracts and we're in the same situation next year if they don't work out, hypothetically speaking.....
I read somewhere else that the problem with Saric may be a work permit.
As for Cann, I just cannot see him commanding that much. He is a former USLer, surely we can compensate him nicely without fucking up our cap.
yup. Is this a case of the tail wagging the dog? It's great that this forum appears to hold sway with those at BMO Field, but this is just a fan board, after all. By all means use it to stay connected to the support base and see what we are thinking, but get on with your job of building a competitive club.
Unlike the fan base of many MLS clubs, we are a knowledgable and passionate hardcore breed of football fan, and we will be demanding of club management. If you don't want that from the local media and message boards, you may wish to coach in middle America where the media scrum is Billy Bob and a blackberry.
Deal with it and build a friggin team already- you've had 5 months and done fuck all.
Is it normal for managers of competently run sports clubs or franchises, to publicly respond to message board postings?
I've never heard of that before
This pit keeps getting deeper and deeper.
Well, it's been MLSE's strategy with all their teams for years, so we should be used to it.
[quote=menefreghista;946329]I read somewhere else that the problem with Saric may be a work permit.
As for Cann, I just cannot see him commanding that much. He is a former USLer, surely we can compensate him nicely without fucking up our cap.[/quote]
That's what i thought at first too...but the ball is in the players court.
Were desperate, their agents know it, and can play hard to get.
Preki is going to do whatever he can with the cards he's been dealt. I don't have an issue with his statement considering TFC hasn't even taken to the pitch in a regular season game. Am I optimistic based on the pre-season? Hell no. However, we all know the lack of personnel falls squarely on Mo's shoulders. Preki never made false promises regarding the chances of immediate success. He is simply asking for the media and supporters to be patient and try and stay positive while he tries to implement his system and hopefully the club will respond and get stronger as the year progresses with a few more pieces added to the puzzle. I will not berate Preki until he has been given a fair chance...
We'll see after watching Philly tonight. But probably not.
From what I've heard, agents know that Mo is terrible negotiator. I don't think they need the roster depth issue to achieve this.
We wanted to get rid of Marshall realy, he was probably the only decent center back this team has ever known, and to this day still has not been adequately replaced. We played an entire season last year without a proper center back, and are going into this one again without a proper center back. Letting Marshall go was just one of many dumb moves Mo has made. Marshall has fit in nicely with Seattle, here in Toronto we are left with Garcia.
Not saying you're wrong but 99% of people thought Serioux would be a more than adequate replacement.
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I'm with you too J-Mo. The guy hasn't coached anything but meaningless games so far, and the full roster still isn't in place.
The fact that he openly admits that it doesn't look like he has a plan, but that he does, is an interesting one.
I think some of us are being too quick to throw this team, and this coach, under the bus. I'm willing to see what his plan is first.
And to the people saying we have the worst MLS team "on paper", I would remind them that last year many outlets (including Soccer by Ives) said that we had one of the best teams in the league "on paper" - and then we started playing the actual games...
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Serioux was an adequate replacement. except Serioux, just like Marshall, needed a proper CB partner to be most effective.
Marshall had Hurtado as partner. Serioux had Harmse/Garcia/Velez as partner. need I say more? lol
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He can say whatever he wants and people can believe whatever they want too. I don't believe any of the bullshit that comes out of Liar Mo's mouth. I have no reason to believe anything he says, considering his outstanding record of lies, since we've been blessed with his presence. I'll always believe my sources and other sources over TFC's PR.
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Why in the world are you still here? It baffles me how you continue to come and add nothing...
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I couldn't agree more, the team has never needed the fan support more then now. We can't bury our heads in the sand and pretend everything is alright, clearly that's not the case.
But when we're out there in Boston and at BMO their really shouldn't be any negativity. If we accept defeat, hang our heads, or just generally be buzz kills, how can we expect the players to play hard at all times? It would be hypocritical right?
The Reds Never Walk Alone, they shouldn't give up on each other and we shouldn't give up on them.
I think we can all agree it works both ways, and right now the negativity on our side is way off kilter. If players/coaches/management are reading these threads, their is absolutely no way in my mind that that couldn't effect their mood and/or mentality.
Let's not bury our heads in the sand, but at the same time, let's not be buzz kills. Stay positive mofo's and I think we owe Preki a chance at changing the course of this team.
Here here! >>>> PISS POOR MANAGEMENT!
boys of been out of it for awhile but what happened with Said?
+ 1!
Agreed. I'm definitely not a Mo fan.. but the negativity has gone way overboard IMHO.
I've love to get 3 games or so in with a few of the new guys.. and the new guys still to be signed. Let's see how it goes.
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Guys, I love the passion of all the posts but lets be clear on one thing. After the final match against the NYRB last season, this squad was in serious need of an overhaul. There was a lack of passion, tactical acumen and heart. Preki is the first legit MLS coach we've had and I think he knows the inner workings and what it takes to win more than any of us. I foolishly have faith that there is a plan and that this season will be better in the long run. Come on you reds!!!!!
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