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You gotta love Mo!
QFT. Unbelievable how Klopas thinks Mo should do the right thing for Chicago because it's a feel-good story. Piss right off! Mo is doing right by his own team. Assholes!Originally Posted by Roogsy
June 15th relates to the MLS window, any player that is "free" and "completely unattached" from another team can be picked up.
July 15th relates to the European Window, so since Mcbride was Attached to Fulham he has to abide by the European window.
Thats pretty much how i see it, am i wrong??
Also Chicago can go suck a big fat one! they want what we have, so they better PAY UP!! we aren't gonna give Mcbride a handjob and pack his bags for him!
Let georgie bush invade us to make us give Mcbride to Chicago for free! LOL
I think you are wrong. There’s not two separate windows. There’s two separate date floating around and it’s unclear which is correct. Journalists, League officials, coaches, and the official league website seem to be split between the two dates.
Ives says it’s July 15th, he tends to be the best source in the league:
http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_b...lls-close.html
If Rojas does reach a deal with the Red Bulls, he would not be able to join the team until July 15, when the MLS transfer window opened. MLS Communications confirmed on Monday that the MLS transfer window does not open until July 15.
Last edited by UltraSuperMegaMo; 06-17-2008 at 11:38 PM.
the right thing for Mo is improving TFC while screwing the Fire
if Chicago were in the West it might be a different story
Like it's been mentioned, I worry that this Klopas guy is making the story public to try and get MLS to break its own rules. However, we all know we wouldn't let this pass because we're passionate fans (cue the Dichio comment about having real fans instead of filling our stadium with family-day out people) so I think we're covered that way.
Aside from that, what do you expect Chicago? We're in this to win and Mo is right not to do them any favours.
Chivas didn’t job us for Amado, maybe Mo should try to be a little league minded on this one. Conde + draft picks or cash seems fair to me.
I would agree with this normally, but not if the other GM is going to have a hissy-fit expecting us to do him a favour, its not often a team has such a prized commodity to trade.
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thats just funny. i wonder if some people realise this is a pro sports league and not a socialist state they are in.
and i do think the league will step in if a deal can't be made.
In the early day of its existence the MLS was run more like a socialist collective than a pro sport league - it’s current single entity structure being a hold over from that time. I think Mo’s smart enough to know this deal has to be done. He might draw it out a little, but there’s no way McBride doesn’t end up with Chicago.
I don't mind if the league steps in as long as they give us a 2nd DP spot or first allocation + money along with whatever shit deal they force us to make. Remember McFuck was the one that wanted DP money from any other team but Shit-Cago. Is that the right thing to do Brian.
So this sounds like McBride won't even be the DP since Blanco is there. Klopos is trying to keep his team from turning into LA 2.0 and stalling the deal using the media as leverage. Will MLS see this as the most important deal of the year since this Ronaldhimno deal is crapping out and step in "for the interest of the league"?
We're behind ya Mo
Mighty Mo...
I don't know if this helps but this is from the MLS Website:
(B) TRANSFERS AND LOANS
An MLS player may be transferred or loaned at any time to a team outside the League. The registration windows - the dates between which MLS may request the transfer certificate of an international player are as follows:
January 15 - April 15 (Primary Window)
June 15 - August 15 (Secondary Window)
http://web.mlsnet.com/about/league.j...ntent=overview
And this is from FIFA (FA):
2. The Association which a player is leaving will issue the International Transfer Certificate to the National Association to which the player is moving. This is now only allowed within 2 transfer windows in a year. From the end of a League's season up to the 31st August and for the month of January.
http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/Additional/Postings/2003/11/InternationalTransfers.htm
Not sure if this clears things up.
Apparently MoJo wants a draft pick, a couple of useful players we can use right away, and serviced by 3 of the front office wives.
WTF? Klopas should take a long walk. This is a competitive sports league not a retirement home for players where they can pick and choose where the get to go out to pasture...
Mo doesn't need to understand sweet screw about what McBride wants, he is worrying about what TFC needs which is what he is paid to do. Give em what he wants or McBride can retire in Chicago as a fan in the stands! GO REDS!!!
The "Single entity" structure is really in name only. MLS is like a company with 12 major shareholders. When the company wants to do something major (or break its own rules of operation) they will need to go back to the shareholders. Even 3 years ago this was easy ("Hey, AEG, can we do this?") but now, with 12 distinct groups, it becomes much more political. I'm not saying the league (and its ownership groups) won't force this to happen, it is just a lot harder to do now. MLSE is also not a minnow to be cowed, it will stand up for its rights, and I'm sure it will be able to garner some support from the other league owners.
But Amado didn't want to play for Chivas. They can't use both arguments, the player want to play in his home town and it's good for the league.
With mls talking about $40 million expansion fees they have to start acting like pros.
Well McBride doesn't want to play in Toronto so I don't see how it is different from that perspective. While MLS has generally operated in a way to benefit the league as a whole in the past (don't forget MLS is not too far removed from multiple teams have common ownership), I like the point made that Chicago is getting a little karma in return here with the way they have handled Marmol & Conde.
Fuck Shitcago, I hope Mo takes them to the cleaners.
I could give a rat's ass if BMB retires.
FYI ... looks like McBride doesn't want DP $ so that is not a sticking point.
"Klopas says he doesn't think the Fire will need a designated player spot to acquire McBride: "Not that I know of," Klopas said. "I don't think he's asking for D.P. money.""
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotr...occer_redcard/
Gee so Mo is not willing to bend over and take it up the A$$ to help Chicago improve. Remind me again, who does Mo work for?
Mo & Carver - 2 guys who were not born yesterday - gotta love em!
I'm floored that Klopas would say this really. I think it shows you just how far MLS has to go in terms of professionalism. Do the right thing.....what a knob. Could you imagine someone saying this in any other sport without getting lambasted on every sports talk show. This is PTI worthy if they gave a rats ass about soccer.
That's the thing that gets me. They're already getting a DP at a discount salary...now they also want that DP at a discounted trade value. Does this Klopas tool have no shame?
I'm sure Mo would like to trade Cunny for Beckham, or Lombardo for DeRo...but I don't see him whining to the press that he can't get his way.
I am not really buying the Chivas argument. Their side fell through originally when Amado refused to come here so Chivas still needed to save face. And they didn't have the room to sign him.
Here it's difference. We CAN sign him if we want to. We have the DP slot, the International slot and the cap room, especially if we waive Cunny. We are holding the cards, Chicago needs to deal. Chivas wasn't holding us over a barrel like we have Chicago.
^^ Exactly, you can not compare the two situations. Amado was not going to Chivas since he and Preki didn't get along, so they had to get rid of him. This is a situation where we could say, "Fuck you, we're keeping him" and Shitcago would have no choice in the matter. We have them by the scruff of the neck, not the other way around.
McBride won't play for us and I really don't want they guy. He wants to play in the Olympics and is coming back for a last victory lap. I want a DP striker that people in Canada will recognize to build the TFC brand so when I turn on TSN, The Score, CBC, Sportsnet and other sports channels they show the highlights of every god damn game TFC plays, not just when Ricketts of Guevara make outstanding goals (TSN).
This Klopas is a fucking idiot and from reading big soccer posts, it seems most other supporters understand our position and laugh the Fire's front office response. On top of the shit they pulled with Conde and Marmol, these guys are bush league. When Blanco leaves that team will be absolute shit.
KlopASS sounds like a real dickhole. Mo should tell him to eat shit until he gets a deal that works for us.
When Osario Left and Conde voiced his opinion, Chicago did the same thing through the media. A lot of whining and sounding like hardassess at the same time. In the end they lost Osario and Conde sat on the bench. not what I would consider successful conclusions.
Good Job Mo Were Behind you 100%!! Hahaahha i cant beleive Klopas said that, what was he thinking?
He wasn't!
Interesting game of chicken.
There's more to this than the article says. Mo can just pass on McBride and keep the allocation, as there are almost certainly other valuable players still to come this year.
The key question - is/are the player(s) Mo/Carver have said TFC will acquire, already on our designated player list?
If not, we need that allocation. Mo may be looking at a 3-way deal with RSL, who have the next allocation after us. (That's what I inferred from the "Mo keeps making things complicated" line, anyway.) By acquiring RSL's allocation slot, Mo keeps his place in the allocation line by using our allocation for McBride and then trading McBride, but we'd get less from Chicago - Chicago would have to send something to both us and RSL. In this scenario, RSL would get more than we would.
Last edited by ensco; 06-18-2008 at 08:55 AM.
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