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While the players didn't get free agency they got the ability to land on another MLS roster which was what they were after.Originally Posted by denime
^ The question is whether or not the team who selects the player in the re-entry draft are forced to sign or even offer a contract to that player, and what happens if they fail to come to terms?
There's no question that the player lost these negociations, and they're locked into a bad deal for a full five years.
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not TFC news specifically but it talks about the autonomy MLSE gives to its teams to "succeed or fail on the basis of [their] decisions"
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...ke-s-team?bn=1
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SSG is smoking but she needs to put a bit of meat on her, not a fan of seeing all that rib....
is GolTV showing the game on Thursday night?
GolTV's schedule for Thursday is showing a La Liga game for that time slot
I know I would much rather watch the Union/Sounders match
Wasn't Mo supposed to be doing a press conference upon his return from Charleston?
Reported by Steven Goff. Which I found on the Footy BlogThe MLS roster deadline is Wednesday at 5 p.m. for 20 senior and four developmental players. While the developmental classification remains in place in the new collective bargaining agreement, developmental contracts no longer exist, the Insider has learned. Other details in the CBA are expected to be made public within two weeks. The pact must first be ratified by the players and MLS board of governors.
I wonder how this will effect the cap...
^ I am suprised they didn't do anything about the domestic vs. international rule (ie. Americans counting as international for TFC), seeing that Vancouver is coming into the league next year, and Montreal soon.
Saw the note on the roster deadlines coming up ... sigh ... we'll see what happens in the next few days. Here's hoping something happens!! but in the meantime ...
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I was wondering why there was only one. Now I know!
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really? I thought the players gained a good deal, if the reports of guaranteed contracts making up the "majority" are true. Although we need to see the actual details in print.
there's that for sure. and IMO, its a win compared to one of the alternatives, a strike.
Both sides give a little that is why it is called negotiating.
Players wanted guarenteed contracts - Owners didn't = increased guarenteed contracts
Players wanted increased min. salary - Owners didn't = increased min. salary
Players wanted FA - Owners didn't = re-entry draft
Players wanted increase in salary cap and got a small increase.
Players wanted short term CBA - Owners didn't = 5 year CBA
You have to give a little to get a little. If you are the players you have to look at it this way, they advanced on every one of their major issues. That's what you build on in the next CBA.
yes, negotiations rarely lead to massive increases on one side... instead they are usually incremental gains from contract to contract.
if the players wanted to win everything to the highest degree, they would have gone out on strike for a year.
In signing a new deal, the critical issue for the players was free agency and for the owners it was maintaining the single-entity structure of the league. Modest consessions were won by the players, but at the end of the day the players didn't get their primary objective and the owners didn't give up theirs.
The cap increase is very small, especially considering all of the expansion fees and the success (and safely predicted success) of the expansion teams - the owners essentially gave up a cap increase that's in line with inflation. While raising the cap is a victory for the players, it helps the league (and thus the owners) attract/retain talent and further establish it's "major league" status.
Raising the min salary is a non-issue for the owners, whether the bottom end players made $5 or $50,000 it doesn't matter to them because either way their salary expenses are fixed by the cap.
Guaranteed contracts...a personal victory for the players, but almost a non-issue for the owners. It gives the players some security, but it doesn't cost owners any money (their costs are still fixed by the salary cap). All that it means is that managers will have to be more carefull when handing out contracts.
In short, the owners gave up: guaranteed contracts (cost the owners nothing), raised the min salary (cost the owners nothing), a modest cap increase (5% per year, very manageable and helps the league as much as it does the players). They didn't give up free agency, and they maintained the single-entity structure of the league. So, other than raising the cap they gave up nothing that costs them money, and the two critical issues fell on their side. That's a massive win for the owners.
I'm guessing the only difference is the pay scale. Before to sign someone to a dev contract, the max you could pay them was 19.9k or something like that. With the new min 40k, I'm guessing that you are able to pay a dev player anything you want. There's probably a restriction to whom you can mark as dev.
Dev players always counted against the cap, it was the GA players that didn't.
I think the bigger issue for the players was being able to play within the MLS once their contract was terminated. In that sense they won. Players won't be locked out of MLS for years until their contract expires. They are still able to make a living.
I think the players got as much as they were going to get. With that being the case, I think this is a good deal and everyone can move forward.
Thats yet to be seen. As I said in the first post -
The question is whether or not the team who selects the player in the re-entry draft are forced to sign or even offer a contract to that player, and what happens if they fail to come to terms?
I understand that the players wanted to be able to continue playing, and I can't imagine the league wanting to prevent that - they just wanted to avoid teams competing for a players service and not allow anything to that might threatened single-entity. The players got a very limited form of what they wanted, the league got exactly what it wanted.
Deal is done.
We'll revisit in 4 1/2 years.
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