I have to give this person credit, she told me this a couple of games into the season.
I have to give this person credit, she told me this a couple of games into the season.
Unfortunately, I don't think many teams want his salary....
what is dero's salary and term?
So then STFU DeRo.Originally Posted by Shaughno
I can see why he's bitching now. He's stuck and he feels he deserves more.
I think last year it was about $400k + $175 in allocations or something. About the same as GBS was making, maybe a little less.
A little bit of 1 and 2 and a lot of 3....
anyways, I'm just glad people are realizing how detrimental Mo is to the growth of TFC....
Dero's stock is dropping by the minute and im starting to think that hes really not the classy guy we all thought he was.
Dero is a Lifer MLS'er and quite frankly i think he makes damn good cash for a top player in this league.
I'm not too concerned if you agree with the logic. it is what it is.
But you do bring a good point up about what was agreed to between Mo and Dero last off season. However, you, I, nor any on here was privy to the discussion and we are merely speculating. But if the premise is correct, yes Mo fucked up and is not a person to be trusted.
Also, there you go again thinking stats is the only thing to do with DP money. It doesn't. DeGuzman is a waay better player than Dwayne. You can see that when they play for the National team. Other factors determine DP money, although production is a key part of it.
I am just sick and tired of Dero's whining and bitching. If you want to play here, then fine STFU and play. If not get lost. If he continues to bitch I think it would be better to cut him loose.
Pretty much what I am saying.
I never said stats are the only thing to do with a DP. What I said, is "everyone wants an impact DP player, correct?". I stand by that. When JDG was signed as our DP many, if not the majority of people were unsure whether he deserved DP.
In no way shape or form do I think DeRo is a better or more talented player than JDG. That's just foolish.
I'm fed up with his bitching too, I'm just offering up some reasons WHY he might be bitching. I've not stated any facts towards his statements, they're all assumptions based on the limited knowledge we have on the situation.
Understandable. I still think he wasn AS MUCH about himself until about halfway through last season. I remember watching a bunch of Houston games prior to him coming to TFC and he was more of a team player than he has been with us.
I love how we are so willing to tell the only impact player we've ever had to "get lost".
I am waiting for someone to tell me how we are going to replace his dozen goals and many assists. Who else will singlehandedly win us the NCC when we need to win by 5 goals.
Maybe he should indeed leave....to where he will be appreciated. I know Houston and San Jose fans appreciate him a helluvalot more than we do. Mo has us all swindled and we buy it by the truck-full. We don't think we need a two-time league MVP.
Would YOU pass it to Barrett? LOL!
Nobody is questioning his performance. It's his off field attitude and its getting tiresome.
Fact is he is on the downside of his career (32 in 3 months) and is looking to cash out.
That's why you didn't hear anything in San Jose about and very very little in Houston. He was younger. Now time is running out.
Roogs it's not about appreciating him. It's about what looks like to be whining from his part, whether it is warranted or unwarranted.
When will athletes ever learn that it's not good PR to bitch about money... unless you're making the league minimum of $19,000 and in some cases some people still don't want to hear about it.
I'm sure I wasn't the only one who was uncomfortable when we saw the DeRo acceptance speech when he got the RPB Man of the Year. You're getting award and your pitching your websites and business ventures to the point of ad nauseam?
I think he needs new PR people.
To be fair...he had all of 5 minutes to think of what to say before it was recorded. It was done on the fly. I am sure anyone could hav done better had they known they were going to be giving an acceptance speech.
Isn't his on-pitch performance the only thing that should matter?
Off-field attitude? Is he pulling a Tiger and screwing whores? Is he running people down in his car drunk? Is he being arrested for internet child-porn?
No...he's mentioned his contract situation. Something all athletes do when there are disagreements. This is nothing new but we're acting like he is breaking laws. It's pretty ridiculous.
As for San Jose and Houston, actually it's been pretty consistent on his part, like it or not. And yet, the fans there loved him nonetheless.
at the end of the day he signed his own contract. shouldnt have signed if he didnt like the money. Its not like now that hes back his DERO entertainment hasnt taken off or anything he gets his free plug in whenever he can.
LOL
Come on Roogs... you know that's a bad excuse. LOL
A player of his stature should know how to do a proper thank you. It's not like it's his first award.
It ended up just coming off as self-serving.
Contrast that to the one that Robbo did the previous year. Night and day.
Just to be clear, we let him do that and encouraged it. That group does a lot of good things for the community and there is no problem with him giving it a little bit of promo. His whole family is involved and commited to seeing that work.
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I have always been a fan of DeRo; his attacking flair is something we are not accustomed to seeing from players in this country. On the other hand, DeRo has always been a selfish player. This fact has been evident on numerous occasions in which he tried to create scoring chances from solo efforts. These dual traits are not very surprising when one considers that DeRo is a type-A player. DeRo can't help but standout on this team, or any other MLS team.
What DeRo does with his type-A personality is entirely up to him. Regardless of Mo dicking him around, the salary structure on TFC isn't likely to drastically change - i.e. DeRo isn't going to be paid JDG dollars. DeRo can either be a selfish jackass and a dressing room cancer, or he can suck it up and be an outspoken leader of TFC, on and off the pitch. The way I look at it, the pendulum can swing either way for DeRo - he can bring the whole team together or he can tear it all apart.
No... but the reaction is also par for the course whenever some other athlete bitches about his contract. Take you pick among any other hockey, baseball, basketball player etc. For a more recent example look at Ilya Kovalchuk.
The great ones never bitched publicly about their contracts and that's part of the reason or allure of why there are considered great.
The ones who do never really capture the public's imagination.
The bitching falls into the greater context of the team. I mean why isn't he bitching about the young guys on the team making a pittance? Hell, some of the great ones even take a PAY CUT if they feel if it will help the team.
Not saying he should take a pay cut but we talk about things that can divide a dressing room (like the John Terry situation)... these is something that definitely does not help the dressing room.
If DeRo has an issue with Mo... he should take that up personally with Mo instead of letting something linger like a bad stench.
Whether or not Mo lied, and I'm not defending Mo's alleged actions, why did this become an issue in the first place? Why did it become public? Why couldn't it have been kept behind closed doors?
We're not trying to railroad a guy but by the same token, but fuck me, before JDG came around, he was the highest paid player on TFC and in the top 10 in the MLS. So JDG comes in and makes more money than him, he does have a better pedigree than DeRo. Is DeRo that self-serving that he can't handle being the #2 highest paid player on the team and still in the top 10 in the MLS?
The more I think about it the more upset about it. Yeah, MO is a fuck nut but can't we have a season without drama? In this case, this wasn't an issue until DeRo brought it up and could kibosh a season that has some potential... even though HE SIGNED A CONTRACT....
I understand. All the props to him.
I mean give a shout out. It was fine. But when he mentioned it 3-4, 5 times, I remember the uneasy laughs.
Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself.
There is a leadership void on TFC right now and I just hope DeRo does the right thing for the TEAM.
there is one other:
4. Mo promised DeRo DP and Garber said "no, DP is only for stars from overseas." Mo says to DeRo "that's the way the cookie crumbles" (however you say that in Scottish) and gives him the max non-DP. Mo looks like an idiot because he's supposed to be the expert on the league.
DeRo's been complaining about his salary for years, doesn't matter what club. Fact, no American club is going to pay him what TFC will, his only other option is Vancouver next year. Mr. Cheese in Montreal will be one of the more frugal MLS owner/operators and certainly won't be springing the cash.
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and what's JDG?.....
Okay, point taken. Modify the wording to be something like - we dont promote existing players in the MLS to be DP's unless grandfathered (Donavan). Its been speculated that JDG was a tough DP sell because he was Canadian, its his European experince that made it a lot easier to do the deal.
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JDG, while Canadian, did come from Spain.
I think that's what he means.
DeRo can always try his luck in Europe, no?
Exactly.
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