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    Thought this might be of interest...

    http://communities.canada.com/ottawa...a-stadium.aspx

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    A team in Ottawa would be great. I never liked that stadium or location though.

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    Not sure how much of Ottawa’s true multi-cultural dynamic resides on/near Coventry road. And, while it might make sense with the current baseball facility there vacant and looking for a buyer/refurbisher, I personally like the idea of a downtown stadium that’s easily accessible off the canal and Bank Street where richies (Glebe) and immigrants live. This is your target audience. Native Ottawaians aren’t the least bit interested in this game otherwise.

    Good thread.

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    sure, one more club is also a great idea, wonder if they will be a farm team for TFC or Montreal

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    Take note kids! This is what a white elephant looks like:



    It's a real shame too. It's a nice stadium, but the city spent far too much on it (17 million at the time). The thing is, it really doesn't look all that conducive to soccer. The outfield is fairly broad which creates a big disadvantage.

    If Ottawa wants to have a successful soccer club, they will have to play as close to the city's core as possible, and in a proper venue.
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    If a franchise in Ottawa is to be taken seriously it must have a Montreal Limpact and TFC rivalry to look forward to. Otherwise, it’d be a senseless venture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcleaner View Post
    Take note kids! This is what a white elephant looks like:



    It's a real shame too. It's a nice stadium, but the city spent far too much on it (17 million at the time). The thing is, it really doesn't look all that conducive to soccer. The outfield is fairly broad which creates a big disadvantage.

    If Ottawa wants to have a successful soccer club, they will have to play as close to the city's core as possible, and in a proper venue.
    Played a lot of ball in that stadium!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    If a franchise in Ottawa is to be taken seriously it must have a Montreal Limpact and TFC rivalry to look forward to. Otherwise, it’d be a senseless venture.
    i dont disagree with this for the record.
    just wondering seeing as edmonton is supposed to be a whitecaps farm team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    Played a lot of ball in that stadium!
    Outfield a bit too broad maybe?
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    city council has already turned down his offers.
    saw it on the news last night

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    Currently two different groups are looking at the ball park as just that...
    a baseball facility.

    They would probably get first crack at it given the venue is designed for baseball.

    White Elephant? Yes... and it was the cities own doing.
    They placed the stadium where, as usual, no good traffic infrastructure existed for anything but car traffic. Then they sold off the parking lots surrounding the park!

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    I hope these farm team ideas go away. As mentioned above these cities will need to be considered an equal to neighboring teams or new fans won't be as interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    I hope these farm team ideas go away. As mentioned above these cities will need to be considered an equal to neighboring teams or new fans won't be as interested.
    It depends on how it is marketed and managed.
    The addition of the Senators did not kill off the 67's hockey team because everyone understood their relative places in the universe.

    Place a competitive, affordable, accessible and enjoyable franchise in the community and market it properly (see your players today who may be the major league professionals of tommorrow) and people will give it a try.

    If the atmosphere is a good one the fans will get hooked and return for more. Never promise but always have the hope that a well supported team may graduate to a higher league and the rabid fan will hope right along with the organization.

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    Since Ottawa was supposed to be in USL-1, and is now in the new NASL, this certainly spells the death of USL-1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    i dont disagree with this for the record.
    just wondering seeing as edmonton is supposed to be a whitecaps farm team

    Anything non-professional won’t work in Ottawa. The fan base isn’t deep enough. Hockey works for obvious reasons, but the city has shown that minor league teams, (Lynx AAA baseball and a minor-pro soccer team that played out Kanata as just two examples) just doesn’t work. Edmonton is perhaps a more viable city because; 1. There ain’t much better to do in Edmonton, 2. Government workers are not your typical “sports nuts”, and 3. Ottawa lacks serious sporting infrastructure – although they are trying to improve that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    I hope these farm team ideas go away. As mentioned above these cities will need to be considered an equal to neighboring teams or new fans won't be as interested.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcleaner View Post
    Outfield a bit too broad maybe?
    Broad isn’t an issue – that can be fixed with tailored seating (add seats to fill in gaps). My guess is that the position of the soccer field may not be conducive to the current structure towards the diamond area where it would be far more difficult to remove concrete structures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    I hope these farm team ideas go away. As mentioned above these cities will need to be considered an equal to neighboring teams or new fans won't be as interested.
    doesnt bother me especially as it means greater development for TFC, i know, i know, very selfish BUT if TFC can have a second team in the NASL then im totally into it and im into Ottawa nad Edmonton and whoever having their own teams

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    It's kind of sad that there is talk about mothballing the baseball stadium having been one of the very few season ticket holders for the Lynx before they left town for Allentown, PA. It may be the last time Ottawa ever sees a baseball team of any significance in this town.

    BUT if it is going to turn into a SSS, I'd want some assurances that it wouldn't be more cost-effective to just build a new one or to use Lansdowne. As Blazer said above, I have severe doubts about the dimensions and seating. Would think it would be similar to, or harder than, moving the seats around at BMO for the Argos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    If a franchise in Ottawa is to be taken seriously it must have a Montreal Limpact and TFC rivalry to look forward to. Otherwise, it’d be a senseless venture.
    Bang on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    Not sure how much of Ottawa’s true multi-cultural dynamic resides on/near Coventry road. And, while it might make sense with the current baseball facility there vacant and looking for a buyer/refurbisher, I personally like the idea of a downtown stadium that’s easily accessible off the canal and Bank Street where richies (Glebe) and immigrants live. This is your target audience. Native Ottawaians aren’t the least bit interested in this game otherwise.

    Good thread.
    A little off-topic, but I don't know where people are told that. But that aside, the Landsdowne area really is the best place for a sports event. You really have the feeling of being "in" something special. Difficult to explain exactly what I mean, but it's better than Coventry, though that too is a decent second choice. Both options would far outrank something out in the boonies like Kanata or something.

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    given Landsdowne reno has been approved, I don't see a point in converting the baseball stadium to include soccer. Sure it would be nice to have a more SSS but its hard to justify unless its a top-draw league like the MLS. I'm sure there are larger revenue generating ways to deal with the baseball stadium

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcleaner View Post
    Take note kids! This is what a white elephant looks like:



    It's a real shame too. It's a nice stadium, but the city spent far too much on it (17 million at the time). The thing is, it really doesn't look all that conducive to soccer. The outfield is fairly broad which creates a big disadvantage.

    If Ottawa wants to have a successful soccer club, they will have to play as close to the city's core as possible, and in a proper venue.
    I've been to the place many times to watch the Lynx (as a side note, I used to get free parking at that glass building on the left in the picture since my dad worked there for a few years) and it could fit a 115 yard long pitch but just barely. From home plate to the shortest porches in right and left is 325 feet (108 yards). If you use the space in foul territory, you could have adequate length when placing one end near the 3rd base dugout and the other down in right field.

    Most of the current seating would be pretty decent aside from those down near left field which could be tarped off. Might not be perfect but if no other options are availabe, it'd be doable. Seating capacity is just over 10300 which could create a decent atmosphere.

    That being said, I don't know if the Ottawa public will appreciate the non-standard seating that this would entail. I think it would be pretty decent but I can see some people being put off by it.

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    so 3 different groups want to bring pro soccer to ottawa....

    Melynk - MLS
    Lansdowne Live Group - USL
    Neil Malhorta - NASL

    its good to have interested owners......
    but what happened to pooling together like what was doine in seattle.

    I believe in order for ottawa to have success, it has to be done RIGHT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahinho_Guerro View Post
    so 3 different groups want to bring pro soccer to ottawa....

    Melynk - MLS
    Lansdowne Live Group - USL
    Neil Malhorta - NASL

    its good to have interested owners......
    but what happened to pooling together like what was doine in seattle.

    I believe in order for ottawa to have success, it has to be done RIGHT
    I can envision Malhorta and Landsdowne Live getting together and form an alliance, seeing as they are on the same wavelength. Melnyk has his own entirely different agenda, so I can't see him playing nice with the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcoe15 View Post
    I can envision Malhorta and Landsdowne Live getting together and form an alliance, seeing as they are on the same wavelength. Melnyk has his own entirely different agenda, so I can't see him playing nice with the others.
    Agreed.

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    i dont think Ottawa would draw big crowds at the baseball stadium unless they renovate it to look more like a soccer stadium by adding a 3rd stand where the outfield is now and that would probably cost a few million. I just think the atmosphere wouldnt be there at a baseball stadium and the many fans would be put off by it. And a few lossing seasons and the team would probably end up moving else where.

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    oh great... another Kansas City Wizards....

    hey, does anybody know where this picture comes from?


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    their attempted bid for the mls

 

 

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