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    Default No more Vancouver/Montreal in USL next year?!

    WTF? Where will Montreal go?

    http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=296379

    EDIT: this article mentions that Montreal may join MLS Division II? That leaves me with even more questions.
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    a few other USL teams will not play in the usl in 2010 , they could form their own league
    c'mon you Reds!

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    I’m sure it’s been discussed but can’t MLS purchase the franchises (or entire USL entity) and just turn it into division II?!

    That would be cool.

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    just speed up their entries into the MLS....get them in for 2010...
    they can play each other home and home those first 2 weeks that they have already announced.

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    I don't know what's more shocking, the news of this story, or the fact that TSN actually wrote this article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neuf View Post
    WTF? Where will Montreal go?

    http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=296379

    EDIT: this article mentions that Montreal may join MLS Division II? That leaves me with even more questions.

    MLS Division II

    WTF?

    Are we going to be relegated next year...
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    Hold the phone...Mo has an announcement. He is committing that we will repeat as Canadian champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    I’m sure it’s been discussed but can’t MLS purchase the franchises (or entire USL entity) and just turn it into division II?!

    That would be cool.
    MLS would never let that happen ever, no league in NA (NHL, NFL, MLB) has a second division because americans dont watch any sport that isnt at the top of its level... A relegation would destroy most teams in the MLS because the fans would just go elsewhere.....

    Also it would mess up the draft system..

    Personally i think its a great idea as it has an incentive to avoid the bottom of the division which has absolutely no meaning at present.

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    In an interview with Montreal radio station CKAC...
    I don't know how much stock I take in a radio whose initials mean "it's broken" (c'est cassé - C-KA-C).

    But seriously, this is a very strange report, not only in content and where it's published from, but also in timing. I mean, why reveal something huge like this now, if in fact it is true?

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    MLS II might just be a junior league or reserve league until certain teams can prove they can support being in MLS I

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    3 years in a row we would have been relagated..lol

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    This has actually been discussed for some time.

    MTL, VAN, and some others are upset with the new ownership of the league (the teams don't own the league).

    They've had some discussions with MLS about a Div II league, but this does NOT mean promotion/relegation. Teams would stay in their own league.
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    Did Ottawa get a team in the USL? What happens to them?

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    ^
    i dont see why vancouver would give a poop on a scoop though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    This has actually been discussed for some time.

    MTL, VAN, and some others are upset with the new ownership of the league (the teams don't own the league).

    They've had some discussions with MLS about a Div II league, but this does NOT mean promotion/relegation. Teams would stay in their own league.

    It could be like the Arena Football League, who had a second division of sorts in name, but it was really just a seperate league (no promotion/relegation) in smaller markets.
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    as much as i dispise both teams, i say let them play in the mls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    I’m sure it’s been discussed but can’t MLS purchase the franchises (or entire USL entity) and just turn it into division II?!

    That would be cool.
    USL Franchises are independent from the USL League. At the end of each season they make the choice to renew their membership in the league. That is how they can take their franchises and play in a new league if they want. The league doesn't own the franchises at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by STB View Post
    MLS would never let that happen ever, no league in NA (NHL, NFL, MLB) has a second division because americans dont watch any sport that isnt at the top of its level... A relegation would destroy most teams in the MLS because the fans would just go elsewhere.....

    Also it would mess up the draft system..

    Personally i think its a great idea as it has an incentive to avoid the bottom of the division which has absolutely no meaning at present.

    Would TFC have been relegated this yer? If not, wouldn't they then just have said the year was successful? That would be worse than where we are now.

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    I know some people who know what is going on in USL. The split away group isn't going to do squat. By 2011 those clubs will either be back in USL or liquidated (financially I mean, not as in a Tony Soprano way).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beach_Red View Post
    Would TFC have been relegated this yer? If not, wouldn't they then just have said the year was successful? That would be worse than where we are now.
    No. With a league in the range of 12-16 teams, usually only two teams are relegated.

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    I guess they can play each other every week. That's how my house league lacrosse team worked.

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    if one team gets relegated, i dont see the HUGE deal.

    but that will never happen especially with parity, blah blah blah

    etc. etc.

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    If the caps and impact would disappear for ever that would put a smile back on my face more the a leafs loss...Nuts to those pathetic usl franchises..who needs them...No Body!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Strike View Post
    No. With a league in the range of 12-16 teams, usually only two teams are relegated.
    Then we're better off with only eight teams making the playoffs rather than 13 not being relegated.

    The last thing we need is a system where we only have to finish third from the bottom for MLSE to call it a successful season...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty_torontofc_2008 View Post
    If the caps and impact would disappear for ever that would put a smile back on my face more the a leafs loss...Nuts to those pathetic usl franchises..who needs them...No Body!!
    yeah competition sucks

    i want to show up, have the team walk out, sing the anthem, and then immediately clap them off the field

    at least we wouldn't lose as much
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    Quote Originally Posted by STB View Post
    MLS would never let that happen ever, no league in NA (NHL, NFL, MLB) has a second division because americans dont watch any sport that isnt at the top of its level... A relegation would destroy most teams in the MLS because the fans would just go elsewhere.....

    Also it would mess up the draft system..

    Personally i think its a great idea as it has an incentive to avoid the bottom of the division which has absolutely no meaning at present.
    Hmmm, disagree.

    MLS fans aren’t NFL, MLB, or NBA fans. They are their own breed and likely can relate to second divisions etc. It’s not like American’s have to look very far (College sports) to see division one and two styles of operation.

    I’m sure, in their infinite wisdom, MLS could figure out how the draft system would work. Hell, I can do that.

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    Give all the draft players to the MLS2 teams. MLS1 doesn't get any draft players. Done.
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    Post More on this story to come on CBC.ca

    JoMo's Tweet:

    Whitecaps, Impact won't play in USL in 2010. Spoke to Lenarduzzi. story to follow


    Correction it`s already up.

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/stor...-witecaps.html

    Lenarduzzi also confirmed that the Team Owners Association (TOA), a group of USL franchises that includes the Whitecaps and the Impact, would actively try to start up a breakaway league. The TOA would first need permission from the United States Soccer Federation, soccer's governing body in the U.S., before it could form its own league.
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    "Failure simply isn't an option at this stage. TFC pushed its chips to the middle of the table when it splurged on Bradley and Defoe and reinforced its bet by making savvy acquisitions elsewhere. This collection of players is capable of delivering on the promises made during the close season. There are no more excuses available for TFC. Only success will continue the process of atoning for the past and establishing a higher standard for the future." FOX Sports

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    i talked to Lenarduzzi. waiting to hear back from Saputo. my story is below:
    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/stor...-witecaps.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCRegina View Post
    USL Franchises are independent from the USL League. At the end of each season they make the choice to renew their membership in the league. That is how they can take their franchises and play in a new league if they want. The league doesn't own the franchises at all...
    They have franchise agreements though, so new teams have to commit for a certain amount of time.
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