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    Just posted on the Fan 590. Cummins is gone. I suppose this is a good thing if the club is to progress next season. Just hope the next guy is the right man this time.

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    hahahaha best thing i heard all weekend
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    Band aid solution.

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    And the question remains... if not Cummins... then who??

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    Maybe 2 months too late...none the less...Thank GOD!!! Right after the game woulda been sweeter though!! ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Ottawa View Post
    And the question remains... if not Cummins... then who??
    how about somebody who knows the league, has won an MLS Coach of the Year award and won the league with one team, and then won an MLS Cup with another team, who is intimately familiar with young American talent, and who is not coaching an MLS team right now: Thomas Rongen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocker View Post
    how about somebody who knows the league, has won an MLS Coach of the Year award and won the league with one team, and then won an MLS Cup with another team, who is intimately familiar with young American talent, and who is not coaching an MLS team right now: Thomas Rongen?
    Pardon my ignorance...
    and he is not coaching an MLS team right now.... because???

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    Whoo hoo fuckers!

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    This looks more like he resigned and was not fired.

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    Cummins Not Returning To TFC


    • Sunday, October 25th, 2009

    THE FAN has learned that Chris Cummins will not be returning as the head coach of Toronto FC for the 2010 season. Cummins had previously cited unfulfilled promises made to him by the team, in addition to a desire to be closer to his family in England. The news comes a day after TFC was eliminated from the MLS playoff picture.
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    Meaningless unless we find out the next guy is significantly better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeltownBhoy View Post
    This looks more like he resigned and was not fired.
    Agreed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeltownBhoy View Post
    This looks more like he resigned and was not fired.
    I'm sure that's the case. I bet he can't wait to get back to England.
    I feel sorry for him, he was out of his depth and simply thrown under the bus by Johnston.
    Funny how we're still shite and Johnston still has his job.
    That's the resignation we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeltownBhoy View Post
    This looks more like he resigned and was not fired.
    As an interim, does he have that option? If he does, and he did, then that's some balls.

    In any case, you knew he wasn't going to last long after yesterday. Makes sense in all areas for him to get the boot right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneLoveOneEric View Post
    Meaningless unless we find out the next guy is significantly better.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoopee View Post
    Band aid solution.
    How is this band-aid? The guy wasn't fit to coach, this is the obvious first step. It's only a band-aid if it's the only thing to change... this is the first day of the off-season, ffs, let's wait and see what else comes along.

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    i dont know if getting rid of him completely is a good thing. He was never ment to be the head coach, cummings had never coached a team before and was still quite young to be a coach. Carver just left the team and he basicly was forced to take his position.

    Cummins apparently worked well with younger players and good at trainning with them. Why dont TFC just get a new coach (like the should of dont right when carver left the team) and let cummins train with the younger players.

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    I think Mo will go after Steve Nichol. Now that Nichol has hired Watson (good Canadian Boy) I think he will offer both positions. That would leave 2 great Canadian assistants to learn at the top level here in NA. Then Danny could be quite envolved in scouting and thre Academy, thoughts anyone???

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    Quote Originally Posted by james View Post
    i dont know if getting rid of him completely is a good thing. He was never ment to be the head coach, cummings had never coached a team before and was still quite young to be a coach. Carver just left the team and he basicly was forced to take his position.

    Cummings apparently worked well with younger players and good at trainning with them. Why dont TFC just get a new coach (like the should of dont right when carver left the team) and let cummings train with the younger players.
    this is how i felt about it... sure he could say no, but then his time with the team would've been meaningless had he not even tried to be a coach.

    interim coach... remember that. i didn't have any real expectations from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginkster88 View Post
    How is this band-aid? The guy wasn't fit to coach, this is the obvious first step. It's only a band-aid if it's the only thing to change... this is the first day of the off-season, ffs, let's wait and see what else comes along.
    True it is the first day but this team needs a whole new cultural change and it starts with Mo.

    And really unless Mo goes - which is not going to happen - then most of the stuff that will happen will be band aid solutions.

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    I wish Chris all the best. A decent young coach who was thrust in too deep too early. Nice fella and I hope it works out well for him back in the UK.

    So, how do we get Mourinho to TO??

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    Jürgen Klinsmann or Sigi Schmidt, we need a coach who understands this league!

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    Disgusting ! We have an organization where people quit, resign, disappear under mysterious circumstances, forced to retire, traded and then not, signed and then not...when is MLSE going to wake up to the fact that we have a a serious issue with MoJo...he is the root cause of all this mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Ottawa View Post
    Pardon my ignorance...
    and he is not coaching an MLS team right now.... because???
    He coaches the USA Under-20s. They went to the World Cup this year.
    He's also the "sporting director" of Chivas USA, whatever that means.

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    first step in the right direction

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    If Mo delivers a new central defender, a new left back, a new right winger and a manager who understands the league, I see no reason why he should go anywhere. He's a wizard in the draft, got Serioux, got DeRo, got JDG, found Nana, Sanyang and Gomez, took a shot with Vitti... the only place he's massively put a foot wrong is in his judgement of managers. That could be a crippling deficiency, but the man has done a lot of things right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenchen29 View Post
    Jürgen Klinsmann or Sigi Schmidt, we need a coach who understands this league!
    And Jürgen Klinsmann understands this league,because .... oh I get it, he lived in LA.
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    Just got off phone with Cummins. Said he hasn't been fired (as far as he knows) and he hasn't stepped down.

    Take that for what it's worth.

    john

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginkster88 View Post
    the only place he's massively put a foot wrong is in his judgement of managers.
    yup... the experience level of the managers (including himself) over 3 seasons was very very low. I have a feeling Mo probably thought, back in 2006, "why hire a big time coach for 2007 when it'll take a few years for the team to come together anyways?" So he did it himself for 2007..... It totally fit with TFC's cautious philosophy to watch their staffing budget in case MLS wasn't successful. Save a buck that way....... and then he probably thought he could get away with Carver and Cummins if he brought in better talent (which he's always done, even as it became a revolving door). Just guesses on my part, but I think the attention and popularity of TFC probably placed more attention on him than he expected.

    Now he better bring in a solid, MLS-experienced coach. Although that means if the team still sucks the target is on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmolinaro View Post
    Just got off phone with Cummins. Said he hasn't been fired (as far as he knows) and he hasn't stepped down.

    Take that for what it's worth.

    john
    I wonder if someone is trying to collect severance and someone else is trying to avoid paying it :-) Regardless, what a shameful flow of events.

 

 

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