Anyone else watching the interview on The Casino Rama Grill Room ?
Channel 15 on my basic Rogers cable.
started at 11:30
Watching DeRo on Grill Room (SunTV)
Anyone else watching the interview on The Casino Rama Grill Room ?
Channel 15 on my basic Rogers cable.
started at 11:30
I may have misspoken about DeGuz being interviewed...
Focus is on DeRo.
I feel like the host was really digging for dirt about his salary compared to DeGuz.
I almost felt bad for DeRo...
Last edited by Carts; 09-22-2009 at 10:54 PM. Reason: Fixed the title for you...
Watched it earlier - KEEP WATCHING...
Although some of the big news has been dropped already, one being HE WAS PROMISED DP before coming here, then decided to leave Houston before that went away... YIKES... And that he hinted at renegotiating his contract because of his "level of play"...
I hope, pray, this JDG signing doesn't blow up in our face... Dero is always 'politically correct' when talking about JDG, but the money comments were there... YIKES!
Great interview though...
We need more TFC one-on-ones in the Toronto media...I know alot of you dislike GW, but if this show opens the door for some of the bigger shows to sneak a TFC player on here and there - its a good thing...
Carts...
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
^ yeah, that talk about his "promised" DP salary was interesting.
I wonder, if the rumours are true about the rising salary cap, increased max player salary, and extra DP (not counting against the cap)...
... perhaps DeRo will be up for a big raise next year.
Yeah, I'm not GW's biggest fan. He spends too much time talking. We want to see his guests or hear debate with his fellow participants, but he gets too wrapped up in what he wants to say and never lets good banter develop.
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yeah... he does like the sound of his own voice.
Those questions were based on the knowledge that it appears MLSE may have screwed Dero over... He says "...to my knowledge it was promised that I was going to be the designated player... and then I guess the league and Toronto FC came about and I had already spoke to Houston about wanting to leave..." He then goes onto to say that 'he technically can't, but actually can' renegotiate his contract at the end of the year...
YIKES! Not that I blame him - after hearing thats how it went down...
Carts...
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
ugh..... i wish i didn't watch that interview.
Serioux's favourite colour is blue and he likes spicy food...there you go.
On a serious note, I would be all for Dero getting paid max salary, and if thats 500K under then new salary cap, then TFC should up him, and thats great. I would not want us to use a DP spot on him however, because lets face it, he is getting the most money here in Toronto (no other MLS club would pay him higher than us), but I dont think we should overpay either. So its a fine balance...I hope he is mature enough to realize that those are the breaks with DeGuz because if he becomes unhappy...he will be dropped by MO and crew, and they will bring someone else, and he is not getting any younger. So 500K + some allocation and another year on the contract...he should be happy.
I have it on PVR - but don't want to quote post too much without having the quotes word for word (as it is above)...
Lets just say I hope MLSE bought him a house or something, because by the sounds of it, they may have screwed over our best player & favourite son...
Needless to say, Dero doesn't or didn't deserve to be part of a back-out deal to save some cash or whatever etc...
Carts...
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
LOL!!!
Those were "hard hitting" interviews...
Carts...
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
wow thats pretty nuts, i wouldnt blame DeRo for being pissed then that DeGuzman got the DP slot. Itll be interesting to see if its made up for DeRo or if He will bite the bullet. Ive always been in favor of maxing out his pay and even at one point as DP but as of now we have one so i dont know what we could do
If DeRo wanted to renegotiate his contract he might just get what he wants because, his play this year has been incredrible (can't even describe) hes has been sleezed into a contract that if he was promised. And i cant see MLSE, Toronto FC, not wanting to keep him happy. They should just under the table buy a new house for him...lol
I sense a little bitterness with DeRO in his interview, about DeGuz. He was talking alot of "hopefully he will help" and "maybe".
But i guess we got the bare naked truth. Now we know how MO does his work
Knew something about this awhile ago and didn't shock me at all, i actually did one of theseand thought oh no MoJo has been up to his snake moves again lol
I really wanna see how it plays out coz DeRo will not just give up the team to Julian which might help the team BUT if Julian is shown too much favourtism it get to DeRo.
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I'm sure DeRo will be getting properly compensated at a later time. The fact is that as good as he is, he's not on the same level as JDG and his signing just did not warrant the use of the DP slot.
The team knows what he has contributed. I'm sure it won't be an issue next season.
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I kinda get that too but it is a tough pill to swallow, godwilling youre right
Fuck -- we really need the cap to go up next year, big time.
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Also, while it's interesting to get DeRo's perspective on his contract negotiation, he mentions MLS and TFC must have "come about" while he was telling Houston he wanted out.
My guess is that may have had less to do with Mo fucking him over, than it had to do with the league telling TFC/Mo that they weren't allowed to use their DP slot on a player that has been playing in this league as a non-DP, and at non-DP salary, his entire career - that wasn't what the DP rule was designed for.
Does anyone think it's far-fetched at all, that the league would deny TFC the right to use their DP slot on DeRo?
I suppose I feel kind of "bad" for DeRo, that we now have an actual DP that makes more than him, but DeRo is still one of the highest paid non-DP players in the league, and short of leaving the team, I'm not sure what else the guy wants. And what other team would pay him more than we currently do?
DeRo has special value to us, because he's a Canadian soccer icon, but he doesn't hold that same value anywhere else. He's still a great player - but is he worth $425k-$450K to another team in this league, under the current cap?
If the cap goes up for next season, then fine, give him a raise. But if not, I really think DeRo kind of needs to suck it up and move on. He signed on the dotted line for the salary he's getting now, and I don't think soothing his bruised ego, in that someone is now making more than him, is really prudent.
JDG has a higher pedigree as a player, than DeRo, therefore the league was probably okay with making him a DP. DeRo has been a lifer in MLS - it wouldn't shock me at all if MLS kiboshed the original plan.
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Oh, and I also think DeRo, like Dichio, is likely one of those special players that will always have a job with the club after he retires, if he wants one. The front office knows he resonates with the fans, and I'm sure they would want to use that to their advantage.
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wouldnt surprise me to be honest as they more or less did the same thing to kenny cooper at dallas
I saw it, and my impression was that DeRo wants more money if the cap goes up. I think he is already at the max for a non-DP, so he's not going to get a raise elsewhere, and we won't get DP either.
He also mentioned something about how he signed his contract, and will let his play this season do the talking, and then push for renegotiation. Remember, coming to TFC, a lot of people thought his best years were behind him.
He also talked about how the league needs to keep it's best players in order to grow, and there needs to be a way for those players to be compensated.
He did not seem bitter towards JDG.
DeRo seems to be setting himself up quite nicely off the pitch as well. I have a feeling that getting his off field ventures up and running in his home town where he is a big deal played as much a factor in him coming here as anything.
People called me an idiot, but I said this JDG signing would piss someone off in the dressing room and I hinted at DeRo. Very few people believed me, well... still dismiss the idea folks?
You can't have a DP quality player, who's proving it on the field... be completely happy when there's another DP player on the team making a shit ton more money. Regardless of JDG's play for the rest of the season, if I was DeRo, I would be at the minimum... slightly pissed at those running the team.
Understandable that DeRo might be upset about the pay difference.
But, to me its up to each player to negotiate his best deal. Not happy, don't sign on the dotted line.
I have heard that there would be an increased contract for some players if the cap went up. Remember that a few players took pay cuts last year just to make room for DeRo.
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Yep, I hear ya.......but its been a known fact that we have an idiot running the team......regardless of whatever prevented DeRo from getting a DP contract (ie. MLS interference) you'd figure Mo would do his homework on it before going on to make such "promises".....but then again this is Mo we're talking about here....
And how long did the DeRo shit go on for? He was trying to renegotiate a deal with Houston as a DP for over a year before he started talking with TFC... and that wasn't exactly a quick process either.
So Mo Johnston not only got us DeRo he got us DeRo at a discount!!!! I've told everyone before... the man is a ruthless business man.
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.....and he also apparently lied to him by promising a DP contract.....
Not really a discount, we're paying him more than he was making in Houston... almost double actually.
Exactly. Shady fucking business if you ask me.
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