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    Default Rumor-Cap of $4m for 2010? (and other goodies)

    I have my gripes about MLSR, but they do have the occasional inside scoop way ahead of anyone. I leave it for you to decide and discuss.

    http://www.mls-rumors.net/3739/2009/...ssed-for-2010/

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    Let's hope, that said the cap has not been one of their strengths in the past.

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    "The opening of Red Bull Arena is the perfect opportunity for MLS to finally become relevant in that market but in order to do that, Red Bull will want to purchase some high profile/high impact players. It is highly likely that MLS will not want to squander the opportunity it has in New York."

    That's certainly true enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beach_Red View Post
    "The opening of Red Bull Arena is the perfect opportunity for MLS to finally become relevant in that market but in order to do that, Red Bull will want to purchase some high profile/high impact players. It is highly likely that MLS will not want to squander the opportunity it has in New York."

    That's certainly true enough.
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    too good to be true?

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    I think it's a fair bump. Still low, but gives teams a lot more breathing room.

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    Increases our quality if true. Suddenly, Pablo Vitti doesn't look too expensive...I'd keep him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSamurai View Post
    I think it's a fair bump. Still low, but gives teams a lot more breathing room.
    that is a significant jump, more than fair.

    If you put into perspective that the maximum salary is 500k.
    So in managers eyes, that could include 3 big signings

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    If true, it shows that MoJo was very canny in how he handled the cap this year.
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    if the salary cup does increase, and for one i hope it does NOT...it gives the clubs ample reason to raise ticket prices, the fans then bitch about it the whole vicious
    circle repeats. The main success of this league is its affordable for most footie fans,
    and with the cup going up, tickets to follow this league could follow the same demise of the Old NASL..you can see it coming!!

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    I hope there is some validity to this rumor. MLSE certainly has the resources to utilize the extra cap space and I'm not certain if most of the other clubs in MLS could afford that luxury. L.A., D.C., New York, New England, Seattle, and Philadelphia are among the few that might exhaust the additional cap space...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty_torontofc_2008 View Post
    and with the cup going up, tickets to follow this league could follow the same demise of the Old NASL..you can see it coming!!
    I am old enough to remember the NASL. You have no idea what you are talking about. Ticket prices had zero to do with the NASL's demise.
    Last edited by Oldtimer; 09-21-2009 at 07:17 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManUtd4ever View Post
    I hope there is some validity to this rumor. MLSE certainly has the resources to utilize the extra cap space and I'm not certain if most of the other clubs in MLS could afford that luxury. L.A., D.C., New York, New England, Seattle, and Philadelphia are among the few that might exhaust the additional cap space...
    The league pays the players salary not the teams.

    Anyway the MLSR post mentions that the 4 million is the upper level of the discussion, so between 2.5 to 4 million, not that MLS are planning on it being 4 million.
    Last edited by troy1982; 09-21-2009 at 06:42 PM.

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    The league would improve dramatically. The best players in the league would likely stay the same but its the depth players that often make this league look awful that would be upgraded. I REALLY hope this is true.

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    4 mil cap will nicely help the league add talent.

    But the biggest thing in my opinion is the salary exempt DP.

    This is the kind of thing that will give big city clubs the slight advantage.

    Just imagine... TFC would be able to afford that quality striker to compliment our midfield!

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    4 million is good.. I wonder where they'd get the extra $28 million they'd need to fund it.
    and would allocation money still exist, as it does now, beyond the cap?

    would the second DP be no charge against the cap, or the first DP?
    it would be interesting to make the first DP charged against the cap, and the second DP not charged. So you have to make that leap and sign your DP first, but after you can go for a second without the risk.

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    ^ Yes, that would be a good way to do it.

    As for the money, how much were the expansion fees for Philly, Portland and Vancouver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by troy1982 View Post
    The league pays the players salary not the teams.

    Anyway the MLSR post mentions that the 4 million is the upper level of the discussion, so between 2.5 to 4 million, not that MLS are planning on it being 4 million.
    The league dictates the expenditures of each club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatpicker View Post
    4 mil cap will nicely help the league add talent.

    But the biggest thing in my opinion is the salary exempt DP.

    This is the kind of thing that will give big city clubs the slight advantage.

    Just imagine... TFC would be able to afford that quality striker to compliment our midfield!
    My thoughts exactly...the system should allow a slight competitive advantage to large market clubs with a passionate fan base and strong revenue streams...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beach_Red View Post
    ^ Yes, that would be a good way to do it.

    As for the money, how much were the expansion fees for Philly, Portland and Vancouver?
    I believe 40 million U.S.

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    This is very good news if all of this is true. Does anyone know what the min. salary is right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManUtd4ever View Post
    The league dictates the expenditures of each club?
    The league owns all the players in MLS excluding DPs and they are the one who pay their salary, Not the club.

    for example:
    for the entire TFC salary, MLSE is only paying for the portion of DeGuzman's salary over 450K because he is a DP, All the other players get their checks from MLS HQ/SUM, who also own the players contracts and who ultimately transfers players in and out.

    The rasing of the Salary cap doesn't effect any of the teams bottom line since MLS HQ/SUM is paying the salary. In 2009 MLS was paying about 35-40 Million in Salary
    Last edited by troy1982; 09-21-2009 at 07:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBaldX View Post
    Increases our quality if true. Suddenly, Pablo Vitti doesn't look too expensive...I'd keep him now.
    Regardless of the cap, $300k is a little much for Pablo (and I LIKE him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    (addressing mighty) You have no idea what you are talking about.
    There's a shocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    I am old enough to remember the NASL. You have no idea what you are talking about. Ticket prices had zero to do with the NASL's demise.
    No but raising the salary cap in MLS will lead to the same fate the NASL did...how many TFC fans are currently bitching about the rise of TFC tickets for 2010..a lot...some are even saying if it continues they will
    reconsider their purchase of tickets!! teams like Dallas, Columbus,
    where fans are scarce at the best of times cannot afford to pay higher
    salaries and may mean the death of the franchises..not good for MLS.
    the salary cap should remain as is till more fans start attending these teams home matches.

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    ^^ I don't think that raising the cap to $4m is logical, but a smaller raise would be feasible.

    Over time, if the weaker sisters of the league can't grow their business and remain competitive, the league will eventually drop them IMO.

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    Or they just won't pay it and we become the Yankees of MLS.
    Wouldn't that be a switch... a Toronto team dominating a professional sport league.

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    Something tells me that over the next five years the (financial) powerhouses of MLS won't stand for the teams drawing $8k and "buy a $5 ticket get a free ball and scarf" BS. It will be put up or get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahinho_Guerro View Post
    that is a significant jump, more than fair.

    If you put into perspective that the maximum salary is 500k.
    So in managers eyes, that could include 3 big signings
    Well I'm not saying jack it up to 10million. Not in a single bound at least. Maybe 5-10 years down the road it might be an option.

    Now if the cap is 4million and the min. salary for a player is 60k, you have less room to play with since your wages go up. I do think the min. salary is too low though.
    In any case, I like the idea of the cap going up. Will help keep homegrown players here longer and not go off to Europe to play in some 4th division in Finland or Lichtenstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy View Post
    Something tells me that over the next five years the (financial) powerhouses of MLS won't stand for the teams drawing $8k and "buy a $5 ticket get a free ball and scarf" BS. It will be put up or get out.

    Teams will all get along fine...

    ... this is a communist league after all... it's about teamwork.

 

 

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