If you are sitting there texting your best friend and talking about movies, then screw off...but if you are genuinely interested in the game, I don't have a problem.
I will say though, that if you are in the supporters section...you should not be learning the game.
true and simple, alex
nope. it says this:Originally Posted by TorontoBlades
it's not about getting a team, it's about enjoying the match on gameday. Says so right there in bold.Eager to jump on the bandwagon, these "fans" try hard to appreciate the game, and their hard-earned dollars are certainly appreciated at the club coffers, but their superficial enjoyment of a day out on a Saturday can never match the sheer joy of fans who have been waiting years – or in some cases decades – for a professional team to thrive in Toronto.
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Originally Posted by alexintoronto
A new fan with an open mind, willing to learn, help support the team and create atmosphere = good.
A new fan with a closed mind, only willing to sit and watch all while making it harder for others to support and create atmosphere = bad.
^ yeah but that kind of attitude is going to have us shown up by the Sons of Ben, we have 20,000 seats available - that's a capacity, i'd rather fill them slowly with people that can really get behind their team, than let the first 20,000 bumkins in searching for a tfc car flag or Edu bobble head doll
there doing things right down there, from the foundation...be weary
Dude, stick to making videos and sipping on chocolate martinis in your luxury $1000 season seat and leave the support to us. You've questioned the effect and importance of support many times. You shouldn't even be part of this thread.
and you shouldn't even be on this message board if we're just a bunch of part-time supporters.
and my seat is $1260 before I factor in the cost of chocolate martinis and prawn sandwiches
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zing!
Dude, why is it that you always take these threads so personally? If it doesn't affect you, why bother getting your back up over it?
I'm not a member of ultras114 just so everyone knows that isn't influencing my perception of the article.
I still find it odd that I'm the only one that sees what I see.
You've got a group (ultras114) that feels unfairly singled out and persecuted by cops/security. The rumours are it may have started from non-soccer security types reading their website and not "getting it".
You've got bandwagon types causing shit all the time (throwing crap, running on the field during play, vandalizing the GO trains etc. etc.) and so:
You get an article from the people that think they're unfair targets saying "it's not us!! you've got the wrong people, in fact we think THOSE people are twats and posers, oh and if any of you twats and posers made an honest mistake and thought what you were doing was cool, then here's a lesson for you".
That's how I see it. I guess I'm the only one.
Zing what? Zing that he can be a prawner and still say he's a supporter? Or zing that he takes these threads so personally it makes him seem like less of a supporter than he actually may be, simply because he is so opposed to anything that has Ultras/Barbarez or hardcore attached in any form or fashion.
boom! someone sees the light (for olegunner)
You're not the only one. The difference is, we're not taking it personally like he's trying to tell us that we're not hardcore supporters, unlike some others.
zing because it's a joke. remember those?
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good on ya gunner
Yeah, kinda like half this article that you took so personally you decided to bring your prawns into it.
if you read my response to you on the previous page you will see what my issue is...
you are defending one view while the article clearly presents a different view right from the get-go.
Perhaps the article is trying to say what you claim...
We are claiming that the article was poorly written.
Shaughno - I'm not taking it personally. I know the article isn't about me or people like me (who know when a ball goes offside). I just don't think people should take shots at other people who came into the TFC experience later than others. It seems like that's the point of the article, more so than distancing themselves from the drunken troublemakers. I see olegunners' point that they are trying to distance themselves from certain problems, but I don't think singling out others is the way to do it.
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well my personal issue is that the RPB caters to the "casual" fan because they are the majority and truth is they have the most seats....and they know that will continue to get love from MLSE suit monkeys. it's like concert promoters "catering" to madonna because she sells out the rogers center as oppose to a concerthall.
i see it, and agree with it's message, i really do. i guess if there was a way to get a message out to those in a helpful way it'd serve us better than the shots going back and forth on here.
quality over quantity is what i'm trying to say
Caters how?
If it's "catering" when you choose not to be elitist, I guess it is what it is.
and to add to that - they're frustration must be doubled in the fact that they are singled out supporting as best they can...and they're not getting any help from other "supporter" groups who really should be encouraging the same kind of support
I think I need to a break... I'll come back when this thread has reached the 12th page are so...
... who am I kidding... I'll be back by at least page 5...
What do you mean how? You express your views and opinions on here every day. People will judge you based on that.
Nobody seemed to have a problem with the article's general idea until you and flatpicker came in calling it an egotistical piece of garbage. He's not taking shots at people who came in late to the experience, he's taking shots at the idiots in the fucking stands. It's so clear, as it has been in previous articles that he has written. As usual, you've jumped to a major conclusion from your point of view... which never, ever agrees with anything that has ultras/barbarez/hardcore in the mix.
I see.
Expressing an opinion = catering.
Glad we cleared that up.
elitist in what sense dude?
if you mean elitist in the fact that I took to time to love football in this city my whole life instead on starting last summer. if elitist means taking the time to learn the rules and the players and that....the people that do that deserve to be elite in my opinion...sorry if some take offence
Dude, I'm tired of this 'elistest' bullshit that gets tossed around so frequently. It happens on both sides.
What he's saying is, if you joined a supporters group... be a supporter. If you aren't a supporter, don't join a supporters group. It's pretty easy I think. I mean, it wasn't formed as the Red Patch Boys Casual Friendship Group was it?
LOL how much do I regret reading this thread!!??!!
This argument is getting silly and seems to an argument for arguments sake... but I agree with both sides (wtf??) I don't think the article is written is intended to be interpreted as some have here, but re-read the article and see how it could be interpreted that way. It's really silly to split hairs like this guys.
A simple "that's not the intention of the article and this is what it is saying" would suffice. Can we please focus some of this hatred on the Red Bulls? You know, since they're shite?
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