As I've said many times, MLSE are a fuck up, and obviously need a completely new PR team head to toe. But what you need to do Paul, is leave us alone. Stop trying cause you're company will just screw it up and have more hate thrown towards it. Doesnt matter if your intentions are good, it'll fail, cause you lot will screw it up. Just get out of our way.
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We can't complain when I guy I know got the call after 20 years on the Leafs list, with franchising fee and raps tickets its costing him almost 50,000.Originally Posted by Parkdale
Oh great, another cash grab.
How about you (MLSE) invest in getting better players and management. After all, success = more money. You think people are stupid enough (unless they're Maple Leaf fans) to buy memberships especially when on-field product is shit?
Just seen Paul's posts in the SSH/tidbit thread.
The more I hear about this "membership" plan, the less I like it. The stuff I would like to see (more up close and personal with the club and players) should be offered free, like the pub crawls, presser invites, etc).
You've got a big sell on to people on these boards Paul, because aside from some pretty outlandish ideas re the ability to fire Mo and free TTC tickets on game days, the basic response on here is very, very understated to say the least.
Again - what are you thinking of offering and what are the basic outlines of this plan? Even in very, very general terms? You must have some clue, even if you just throw out some discussion topics on the premise that none of it is decided on yet and all may change, at least let us in on the thinking process - that's why you started this thread, no? To get some feedback? So let us feedback on something real instead of inviting wishy washy pie in the sky crap...
We are the Angry Mob, we read the papers every day
We like who we like, we hate who we hate
But we're also easily swayed
^might be the point
I have a request for the moderators, can one of you please unban Kingpin and point him in the direction of this thread. Can't help but think he'd love this sort of thing.
Also with all this talk of marlie tickets, can i just say that i love the fact that in Toronto, which is supposedly a hockey city, centre of the hockey universe if you talk to some people, full of a passion that unites us all, the only way the can sell tickets to the second best team in the city is to force them on to reluctant soccer fans. I hate that they do it, but I love that they have to.
Just shows that Toronto is a Maple Leafs town, not a hockey town. lol
Pro-hockey media always say soccer would never be supported in Toronto.
No, Toronto is not a hockey city, we're a leafs city. When the world championship was in Toronto, the finals, with Canada, you could still buy seats. But on an average leafs game, it's sold out. So, I think this city just like their leafs.
The AHL and OHL are poorly supported in Toronto.
Membership Team
always have been but mlse doesnt miss a chance to make a buck
i too had to buy a partial pack --never went to one marlies game
but according to seating chart they were primo tickets
i looked at it as the cost of getting tickets at the time and now i have
my seasons but at the time and still now it bothers me that mlse used
tfc to pawn off marlies tickets that people dont want
wow 2016 and things are looking up --- come on you reds lets go
Membership Team
you are absolutely right but wait till my dad and my generation move onJust shows that Toronto is a Maple Leafs town, not a hockey town. lol
Pro-hockey media always say soccer would never be supported in Toronto.
cause the next generation behind us dont give a hoot about the leafs
everybody is so pissed that ballard and then mlse wont buy the players
to put a winning team together especially in what is called " canada's
game" that in 20 years the leafs will be what you get for buying a 1/4
pac of tfc tickets
cause thats when soccer will be "canada's game"
wow 2016 and things are looking up --- come on you reds lets go
What he might be doing is waiting to see what ideas are banded about, then work out what is gonna cost the club the less money and then sell the membership at a rip off price and claim it was exactly what you had wanted all along. Top of my list if I were him would be:
Toronto FC email address - cost to club - nothing
Ability to use ticket exchange but only after set dates when gold pack and season ticket holders have had a chance to buy - cost to club - nothing
Once a year get to sit in on a TFC training session - cost to club - security but through concessions and $13 beers they would make a profit.
1 or 2 academy games - cost pretty much nothing.
TFC pen and key ring - Very cheap, straight from China.
Access to the purple list - comes before the red list but after the gold list. Sell it with the proposed possibility that you just might one day if you are very lucky get a season seat. Of course it will be yearly and if you do not buy again you drop to the red list.
I would sell this at $130 but ensure that there are only 1/5 of these packages available. For the other 4/5's I would charge $230 and include in that three marlies games as obviously TFC fans want these tickets especially the top price ones and not the $10 ones.
There you go that is the TFC membership right there.
This is a bit ridiculous how this thread has become another bash ML$E thread so quickly. I'm not their biggest fans but I didn't get the same cash grab message from Paul B as it seems everyone else did. I for one would kinda like to see this as long as it means only members are sold supporters section tickets.
exactly.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I want to be brought on to take a free kick during the regular season.
YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!
We are the Angry Mob, we read the papers every day
We like who we like, we hate who we hate
But we're also easily swayed
Cynicism aside, serious idea, members kids get a chance to be ball boys/girls or player escorts, same as what they did with rpb kids.
Ok, open question to Paul:
Was your (the FO, not you mate) motivation for doing this:
A) to find another revenue stream; or
B) to find a way to give something back to the supporters
Because the asnwer to that question fundamentally determines the make up of how this thing is put together, no? If you answer "both" then it means revenue stream.
I am hoping and willing to believe that the answer is "give something back". hence my earlier suggestions of things the membership could include re "pure" TFC stuff allowing us better interaction with the cub and players rather than selling us merch (of whatever description) we could buy in a store somewhere.
Besides which, given the ticket sales, waiting lists, edu money, RM money, Gol TV subs, etc etc I think the club has enough revenue streams coming in right now. It's season three still! Let's give something back before we look to take in more cash, no?
EDIT - I appreciate the grass thing, that's awesome, a big give back from the club because god knows the way this whole thing was created means it cannot be easy to get us grass, so thanks and kudos and please keep pushing with that one!
We are the Angry Mob, we read the papers every day
We like who we like, we hate who we hate
But we're also easily swayed
no, you don't, because if you miss then hell hath no fury like a message forum scorned...
We are the Angry Mob, we read the papers every day
We like who we like, we hate who we hate
But we're also easily swayed
Paul, I appreciate the fact you come to this board and I hope you never stop the communication. I would think you have enough experience here to foresee this negative reaction to any idea that takes more money from our pockets and gives it to an already extremely profitable club that has gone out of its way this year to show the SSH it cares more about profits than our support. (Madrid).
IF there is a REAL effort underway to make supporters feel part of the club, that's GREAT but your organization seriously needs to do some damage control on your relationship with the supporters. SLOW DOWN on the marketing bullshit, get back to grassroots support building that costs you money, not us. Stop trying to eat your golden goose and be happy living off the eggs.
Ok, open question to Paul:
Was your (the FO, not you mate) motivation for doing this:
A) to find another revenue stream; or
B) to find a way to give something back to the supporters
Because the asnwer to that question fundamentally determines the make up of how this thing is put together, no? If you answer "both" then it means revenue stream.
I am hoping and willing to believe that the answer is "give something back". hence my earlier suggestions of things the membership could include re "pure" TFC stuff allowing us better interaction with the cub and players rather than selling us merch (of whatever description) we could buy in a store somewhere.
Besides which, given the ticket sales, waiting lists, edu money, RM money, Gol TV subs, etc etc I think the club has enough revenue streams coming in right now. It's season three still! Let's give something back before we look to take in more cash, no?
EDIT - I appreciate the grass thing, that's awesome, a big give back from the club because god knows the way this whole thing was created means it cannot be easy to get us grass, so thanks and kudos and please keep pushing with that one!
You are the man Hitch! Very well put! That's how Paul need to address these topics...with some clarity.
No, not always. I used to go to see the OHA Marlboros play at MLG in front of 15k people.
Wonderfully fun days they were too!
B
Same here.
Membership Team
sorry i didn't know they got that many fans
so in the last 10 years then maybe
clarification on other post
to buy 1/4 pack of tfc games you will need to purchase 7 maple laugh tickets
If PB did not type 'what would it cost' into his question I could agree with you, but he did. PB did not start this thread thinking he would not get some flack for it.
When a ML$E member ask me 'what would it cost' I get worried... very worried.
Best post of the entire thread.
^ seconded...well put
Problem is, if they include it for STH, they'll bury the price into your annual season ticket price hike and tell you you are getting it included.
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