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    1) Evaluate and re-evaluate the players' shortcomings so far.
    a) DeRo has lots of technical ability to get past defenders and can finish,
    particularly around the box. Long range shooting has been hideous,
    crossing marginal. Often holds onto the ball for too long and plays with his
    head down, causing our offence to stutter.

    Best option: He's a good scorer but a selfish player. We should play him as
    a striker at all times; out wide, he can border on disastrous. In the hole,
    he's pretty good, but doesn't feed particularly good short balls and holds
    onto it for too long.

    b) Gerba - Has movement issues, looks and moves a bit unfit, turns well off a player's shoulder; Is a good striker partner when playing two up top in a 4-4-2.

    c) White - Still tough to say. Creates space for himself. Moves well laterally off the ball. Hasn't found a knack yet for creating seams between
    defenders. Can shoot. Is tall enoguh at 6'2 to be a scoring target man.

    d) Barrett - Can beat defenders, very quick first step, can cross, but not
    accurately, often leaves it short. Can't hit the broad site of a barn. Links up well on short passing plays. Tackles poorly. Crossing isn't good enough to start him wide, shooting isn't good enough to start him up top. Best option would be as a hole/link player behind a single striker up top or used as a backup only.

    e) Vitti. Fantastic dribbling, but again has trouble with shooting and his release is slow. Good lateral movement to create space. Don't know how well he crosses. Might be a wing option. can't play up top and isn't a good enough two-way player to stay in the mid. Play him in the hole, or wide. If he can't play wide, he' either a hole player or a bench player (and as much as Love his techical skill, a release candidate, based on overall value versus salary.)

    f) Guevara. Very good technical play and reading of the game, but a lazy
    player. He hogs the ball going forward and looks for the "perfect" play,
    but has too much confidence in his own skills and gets stripped a lot. Has
    days when he performs well as a two-way midfielder but is generally not
    reliable enough to be the starter in that respect. If we played with two up
    top or a diamond with two strikers and a hole player, he's an option as the
    hole guy, same as Vitti and Barrett.

    g) Cronin. Right now, far and away our strongest midfielder. He delivers
    good long balls, good through balls, good crosses, he tackles moderately
    well and his movement/coverage is good. His crossing is so fine, he could
    play on the right wing, or as right back. Could also play as right central
    mid, going two ways but primarily feeding offensive players.

    h) Robinson - Good tackler. Good energy and hustle. Mediocre passer (not
    horrible, as recent games have suggested); is streaky. Poor positionally
    lately, trying to cover too much ground and being caught up too often.
    Panicky distribution lately. Does not marshall the team; temper gets the
    better of him.

    i) Sanyang - Young, storng, very atheltic, moves well off the ball, reads the game very, very quickly -- perhaps too quickly, as he's been caught out of position a couple of times. But on the whole, a very good prospect. Some concern that he mught be overly aggressive and one-dimensional, although he's keyed a couple of forward moves as well.

    j) Jimmy Brennan - Decent winger, gets forward well, crosses very well, cuts isnide well and plays off other players well. Lousy fullback.

    k) Gala - Very slight; quick. HAven't seen much of him, but his balance is
    exceptional, as evidenced in his first year, when he held off a (Red Bulls?)
    defender even though he was being pushed downDon't know what he can do defensively. Tough to peg him at this point. Perhaps a good winger.

    l) Adrian Serioux - Good tackler, good passer, reacts slowly to the game
    around him and sometimes reads the other team's movement poorly. First
    step is quite slow, has a tendency to come in a bit aggressively. Good in a three back line or the second-centre half if his parnter is quick, experienced and strong.

    m) Nick Garcia - Seriously overrated right now. Backward movement is very poor, slow first step and poor turn, is easily muscled off the ball and on the shoulder. Reads the game well, communicates well, tackles well. Speed, age and size conspire to make him a liability more ofthen than not.

    n) Leslie Fellinga. Who knows? Too early too say.

    o) Nana Attakora. Very good positionally, very strong.
    Decent-but-not-great in the air. Very solid tackler. Marking is superb, speed is deceptively good. Distribution is mixed and should be watched. Good prospects as a starting centre half, less so as fullback but could fit it in a pinch.

    p) Marvell Wynne - Fast as hell, better at interplay that he's given credit
    for, shooting favours accuracy over power. Crossing hasn't looked
    particularly strong. Positionally weak. Tends to drift inside too much and
    hang too far forward. Marks up well, but then tend to lose his man and ball
    watch. Tackling has been marginal. Decent wing back, maybe even a winger not-so-good fullback.

    q) Danny Dichio - has been used as such an afterthought I almost forgot
    about him. I suspect his concussion issues may be having an impact now on playing ability in that he'll go out there even if he shouldn't, but team might not let him. If that's not the case, then he's still our best target forward by a considerable margin and one of our best finishers. Not mobile. Should have a playing partner. Doesn't play well at the top of a 'v' offense, due to poor speed, but plays well in a 442 as a traditional hold-it-up-and-dish-it guy. Finishes very well.

    r) Stefan Frei -- Good reactions, good reads, good positioning, good
    distribution. Is too slow coming for balls into the box, tentantive. Isn't helped much by defense. Needs more upper body strength to muscle through to ball in the box.

    t) Emmanuel Gomez - Almost forgot Gomez! Good tackler, good ball skills
    and movement for a defender. needs to put some bulk onto his frame.
    Aerial skills look decent. Makes overconfident decisiosn sometimes, takes
    risks. Good prospect as a centre half. Might need to start him, even though he's not ready.

    2) Eliminate or mitigate the impact of the weakenesses.
    Here are some of obvious problems.

    a) Our offensive "skill" players have conflicting roles and are individualists.
    That means we'll score some goals, but our time of possession will be
    poorer, and we'll require "brilliant moments" to get our goals.

    b) Our starting midfield has never worked well together. Guevara is just too one-dimensionally offensive and suffers from "carry the team" disease. He's too inconsistent. Robinson's positional play is already suspect and declines when he has to cover for behind Amado. His tackling is good, but he's prone to overaggression.

    c) Our wide play is limited, not by our wide options so much as by the lack
    of any height or aerial skill inside the box outside of Danny D.

    d) Defensively, our supposed starters are only marginally up for the task. I
    would say Garcia is done, well past his prime. Serioux is a second centre
    half, but well better than Garcia. He whines like a fucking girl, though.

    e) We're tactically incohesive, for a variety of reasons, but largely just due to the combined nature of those individual player faults.

    3) Here are some proposed
    .
    a) Adopt a stable backline system. The offensive end can vary depending on what the other team is doing. But our defensive record and lack of quality in depth suggests we need to keep things straightforward back there. At the same time, the general scarcity of overall wide players suggests playing wide backs instead of midfielders.

    So, we play a 3-man backline. We bench Garcia, and respect that Serioux
    and Attakora read the game better than Gomez at this point, while Gomez
    has the obvious advantage in the air:

    At fullback, Marvell has too many offensive pluses to leave out, and
    his positonal faults are correctable (and have been gettign better as this
    season has progressed.) Plus, we need cronin inside.
    On the other side, Jim Brennan is a better mid than full, but would be less exposed with a flat back
    three.

    In the midfield, the Amado/Robbo duo has never been able to hold up the
    ball to create more tempo and possession. Guevara is caught forward too
    much and I believe age is catching up with him somewhat, limiting him to mainly being offensive. Robbo's positioning and passing this season has been atrocious. Plus, neither man is good in the air, allowing teams to switch fields/headman on us with impunity.

    Meanwhile, the best passer on the team right now is cronin, who is being
    used as a utility player wherever need. Put him in the midfield as the creativ midfielder, allowed to play both ways.

    Amadou Sanyang is hella tall, as well as being mobile and athletic. He
    covers as much or more ground that Robbo, is faster, and passes better.
    He may be more rash, but his list of positives over Robbo outweights his
    negatives. Plus, he looks good in the air
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    I'd play Cronin, the two-way player, on the same side as Wynne, to force
    win to track back more and expose him more. He needs to be pushed into
    doing it right, and that's easier when he already has Attakora behind him
    as cover. If you put Sanyang on that side, he can cover for Wynne, but will end up doing it repeatedly and screwing up our midfield holding.
    That leave us with three offensive positions. We change these up , but given that DeRo is only really effective right now as a striker (and I suspect that's his future), the most sensible would be a diamond.

    -----------------------Frei--------------------------
    ------Attakora----Gomez----Serioux------------
    Wynne------------------------------------Brennan
    -----------------Cronin-----Sanyang---------------
    -----------------------Vitti--------------------------
    --------------DeRosario----Dichio-----------------

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    i) I would never put Guevara and DeRo on the pitch at the same time.
    They're both terrible ball hogs and that arrogance can hurt when not
    properly channelled.
    ii) Vitti is a better option in the whole than Amado, as he plays relatively
    unselfishly, trying to penetrate but also trying to create with other players.
    iii) Gerba would come on for Dero, White would come on for Dichio.

    4) Get them on the same page. It's time for a non "player's coach", a
    tactician and technician who drills responsibilities into his team, so at the
    very least, we always look like we're not going down without a fight. Half
    the time right now, the players don't look like they know what they're
    supposed to be doing.

    5) In terms of realistic staff moves, I believe Amado's contract is up this year
    and I wouldn't renew. I'd release Barrett or trade him; if that contract is
    guaranteed, we could try and loan him to get the salary off the books, at
    least. Garcia should be waived at the end of the season, as shoudl Vitti,
    whose salary is simply too high (unless he can be resigned for a lower fee,
    perhaps in the $160,000 ballpark).
    I would also see what's out there for interest in Wynne. It's worth gambling
    at this point that he isn't going to be good enough to be a long-term euro
    prospect and move him regardless of the potential lost transfer. 1) We
    might get a lower-level, i.e. league one or championship level, Euro team
    interested or 2) we might get a package of good MLS returns from another
    team that woudl strrengthn multiple areas. One, obviously, would have to
    be a good defensive fullback and another a winger, or the money for one.
    I'd look at releasing Robbo, hard as that would be. That kind of salary
    carries massive potential in a moneyball league like MLS.
    The saved wages (considerable) could be put towards some team-oriented,
    hard-nosed, MLS style players.

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    -----------------------Frei--------------------------
    ------Attakora----Gomez----Serioux------------
    Wynne------------------------------------Brennan
    -----------------Cronin-----Sanyang---------------
    -----------------------Vitti--------------------------
    --------------DeRosario----Dichio-----------------

    You wouldn't be in charge long.
    Wynne can't play.
    Brennan's legs have gone.
    Vitti either holds onto the ball too long or gives it away....almost every time he gets it.
    Dichio's legs have gone and can't jump.

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    seems like every pregame thread people post their dream line up...now we have a thread dedicated to this?

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    jlomme, I agree I may put Gerba instead of Dichio, not that I think he is better, but it seems clear that he can only play limited minutes. I would like to play Barret on the wing, but I am not confident in him defensively. But three at the back, the three you indicate seem the natural move and is Cronin Sanyang and Vitti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prizby View Post
    seems like every pregame thread people post their dream line up...now we have a thread dedicated to this?
    yeah, just jloome is way more thorough than most.
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    -----------Edwards------------
    Wynne-Attakora-Gomez-Fellinga
    -----------Sanyang------------
    Vitti--------Cronin---------Gala
    ---------OBW--Ibrahim--------

    nuff said

    probably the best starting line up we could put out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davenport View Post
    -----------------------Frei--------------------------
    ------Attakora----Gomez----Serioux------------
    Wynne------------------------------------Brennan
    -----------------Cronin-----Sanyang---------------
    -----------------------Vitti--------------------------
    --------------DeRosario----Dichio-----------------

    You wouldn't be in charge long.
    Wynne can't play.
    Brennan's legs have gone.
    Vitti either holds onto the ball too long or gives it away....almost every time he gets it.
    Dichio's legs have gone and can't jump.
    So you would leave Wynne, Brennan, Vitti and Dichio on the bench?????

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    I'll borrow a line from the military...

    "Kill everyone, let God sort em out".

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    Quote Originally Posted by prizby View Post
    seems like every pregame thread people post their dream line up...now we have a thread dedicated to this?
    I actually don't mind it. Jeremy puts a lot of thoughts into his analysis unlike many posters in this forum who just say things like "Vitti is shit!".

    If you like reading breakdowns on players, jloome offers a lot.

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    You wake up tomorrow and....you are in charge

    I'd roll over and go back to bed. I'm in charge... you can all wait.
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    first things first........CHEERLEADERS, lol (had too!)

    cue the pics haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    I actually don't mind it. Jeremy puts a lot of thoughts into his analysis unlike many posters in this forum who just say things like "Vitti is shit!".

    If you like reading breakdowns on players, jloome offers a lot.

    i agree, but my eyes hurt after reading all that lol

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    Do some serious team-building work because lately it seems like their are too many trying to be the hero and not enough focus on working as a team.

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    Here's what I'd do:

    (1) Raise the price of beer 10%. After all, I want a good performance evaluation
    (2) Hire John Limniatiis as defense coach. Yes, a coach dedicated solely to our defense.
    (3) Bring back Chris Pozniak for cheap depth, which every MLS squad needs.
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    First off, I would fire myself, because I'm just a fan and not an experienced football manager. Then it would be someone else's problem and I could go back to bitching about the team sucking.

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    I make DICHIO BOSS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Here's what I'd do:

    (1) Raise the price of beer 10%. After all, I want a good performance evaluation
    (2) Hire John Limniatiis as defense coach. Yes, a coach dedicated solely to our defense.
    (3) Bring back Chris Pozniak for cheap depth, which every MLS squad needs.
    The last 2 would make sense although you might have to steal both of them...

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    Great post and analysis Jloome. 3-5-2 with wingbacks has won several world cups and it dominates 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 and as a youth coach this formation has worked best for me. Tactically if the opponents play 4-5-1 then one of the three central defenders moves up to be a midfield sweeper. This is a valid formation that best matches TFC's unbalanced squad.

    The only thing I slightly question is Robbo. Positionally he helps the defensive shape which has been awful for three years now but it pulls him out of his role. However you rate him as a good tackler but I don't. Way too many times has he been easily dribbled around and he clearly lacks the ball winning ability needed for a holding midfielder.

    CC is great with youth development but clearly he lacks the tactical nous both pre-game and in game for the head coach role.

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    ^CC is also good around the microphone

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    --- And then I realize I'm only in charge because I'm playing FIFA Manager '10.

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    rip out every seat in the stadium.

    allow people to BYOB.

    build a Danny Dichio statue outside gate 3.

    every 5th person through gate 3 gets a flare.

    hire somebody who knows how to run a football team.

    give average players from europe MLS type "contracts" but meet them in dark alleys to give them a bag full of their real salary to get around the DP rule.

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    If I wake up tomorrow and I am in charge... then we are all fucked!

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    ^^^
    Danny Dichio Statue outside of gate 3!!! how come I didn't think of that!!!
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    That was a very insightful analysis IMO. I don't agree with it all but its nice to have someone craft some well thought out points from carefully watchin the game rather than have player performances based on biased and usually unfounded opinions on the player.

    ie.
    "Wynne can't play" -> since he came back from GC duty, Wynne has been one of our best players...
    "Brennan's legs have gone." -> and who do you suggest be his replacement? he's also pretty fast IIRC, faster than OBW at least
    "Vitti either holds onto the ball too long or gives it away....almost every time he gets it." -> i don't think so... if you actually watched the game you won't think so either.
    "Dichio's legs have gone and can't jump." -> maybe true, but you're clearly missing the point

    That aside..

    Fellinga is an unknown quantity, so I won't put him ahead of Brennan just yet.

    Anyone putting OBW in our starting XI needs a reality check. His only two real appearances have left much to be desired. I don't really see where this "making space" and good off the ball comments are coming from, because it hasn't happened. All I see is him in front of defenders signalling for a ball when he's clearly covered. Doubt he'd make a good targetman just yet as his passing is sloppy and weak, but at least he likes to play it simple. However I think Barrett creates far more chances for himself and others in that role. (short version - no, i don't like OBW from what I've seen, and he sure as hell isn't the playoff answer.)

    I like the 3-5-2 that was put out. I think it would work with Gomez and Attakora, who are both fast and can prevent trademark Garcia breakaways when Wynne and Brennan go up. However like someone mentioned, Gerba is probably a better alternative to Danny. He seems to work well with DeRo, and can last a bit longer out there than Danny can. Not to mention's the only other guy (apart from DeRo) who can shoot with power in this team. (Barrett-esque shots into orbit don't count, besides he's been shooting less this year)

    I fully agree that Cronin should be employed as a creative midfielder. He's unselfish and knows whats going on around him. I haven't seen him link up with Guevara, and I wonder what that'd be like. Sanyang has been energetic, but I haven't really had a great look at him from my vantage at the games. I think Vitti in the hole is debatable, but can work. He's a bit of an enigma, because as much as I like him, he doesn't always make great decisions on the ball.

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    So, we know what jloome did with his lunch break today, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooker View Post

    build a Danny Dichio statue outside gate 3.

    substitute for Danny Dichio!




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    Shut her down and cash in on the resale to Molsons

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    if i was manager,

    relocate until the city PUT IN GRASS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooker View Post
    rip out every seat in the stadium.

    allow people to BYOB.

    build a Danny Dichio statue outside gate 3.

    every 5th person through gate 3 gets a flare.

    hire somebody who knows how to run a football team.

    give average players from europe MLS type "contracts" but meet them in dark alleys to give them a bag full of their real salary to get around the DP rule.
    You sir are a visionary.

 

 

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