Wynne- RB or Mid.
Wynne has great speed, great heart, and plays hard for us.
However, I am starting to think that he will never develop into a great defender. On the other hand he contributes offensively. It is tempting to play him as an out and out winger, but he seems not to have the overall skill for that. What would you guys do with him?
I put this in the wrong section. Sorry.
Trade him for McKenna
Originally Posted by trane
I say right bench that is the best spot for him
He contributed, just not defensively. Which is sort of a problem for a Full Back.
^ I put it in the wrong section by mistake. See my second post.
gotcha
NICE!!!.. Stool beside bench... Although he was good in Fifa 09.. Im Torn!
lol
he was in my opinion, our MoM last night
which doesn't say very much for our squad does it?
^ He plays like an out and out winger most of the time, and in doing that he contributes to the attack. But this leaves as exposed at the back.
Doesn't have a head for defence.
Doesn't have the skills for anything else.
The man is stuck in football limbo.
Trade him while he has some value.
Agreed a winger is what he should be expect for a few things that he lacks in no particular order:
- Ability to hit a cross consistently
- Ablility to control the ball
- Ability to strike the ball and hit the traget
- General lack of soccer IQ
Wynne is a teriffic athlete but as a soccer player he is below avergae at best
All of you are LOST!!! Marvell was the best player last night and should be in our squad every single game! He is arguably the fastest player in the league and is starting to become more offensive. If you are going to put someone on the bench from our starting defense, put Brennan there. He's slow, can't cross worth shit and can't get back quick enough when he does move forward. Don't forget, he's only 23 so he can only get better. Get rid of Wynne??? What a JOKE!!!
Last edited by TFC RuKKuS RPB; 08-05-2009 at 04:35 PM.
^ Wynne is not a good defender. Or do you disagree with that as well?
Speed is good, but doesn't make a player great. I am not sure what games you watch, but his defensive postioning is what causes our defence to look worse than it is...
And this is thread is about Wynne not Jimmy "I am useless" Brennan cause if it was up to me I sit both
^ note how fast was the only attribute mentioned
He puts in a decent cross
^ I think so too, may not be a consistent enough cross. But his are decent, he also likes to drive in deep, and put it across goal on the ground, if you have Dichio and Gerba in the box that is not a bad think to do.
The skills he needs to incorporate into his game:
-first touch
-moving with the ball at your feet without looking down at the ball every step
-knowing where to be on the field at what time
These are things you learn as a child. If Wynne played soccer as a child, he had horrible coaching. These things can not be taught to a 23 year old and expect good results.
I'm not exaggerating one bit when I say that I've seen and (in my past) played with 16 year olds who are better than Wynne at the three things I listed above.
Even if it were all he focused on for the next 5 years he wouldn't be up to snuff.
He's fast but out of control.
Bottom line is that he looks like a sprinter that has been converted into some weird form of soccer player.
He will only improve marginally over the next few years.
HE WILL NEVER BE A SMART SOCCER PLAYER. IT'S TOO LATE.
What he said. Hopefully he will not be protected in the expansion draft and Philly picks him up.
Don't understand how anyone can think he was Man of the Match. You're talking about the guy who let two simple passes roll under his feet for a throw in and jumped up like superman, only to land before the ball bounced over his head nearly causing a break for the other team. Terrible defender, horrible IQ. Sure he's fast, maybe try him on the wing, but he's too dumb to make any decent decisions so I say put him on the bench for a late match energy sub.
I think he is still a great asset to the team. In my opinion I think he can be a good winger as long as Attakora is healthy to play in the backfield. Wyyne is a nice change up from guys who are pure agility like Vitti.
He should be a winger.
In other words don't have him on defense. I mean right now he's barely playing defense the way he gives up so much damn space on the wings. I consider that much of the reason we got fucked 3-1 by Costa Rica in WCQ.
Wynne has to be one of (if not) the fastest players on our team. I think his speed has saved us a lot.
Wynne's positioning is poor but, this is Mls and him having low footy IQ can be covered up by the fact he is an exceptional athlete always works hard and rarely loses 50/50. When running with the ball causes all sorts of problems. Move him up the field so in the event he does make a mistake he can run it down. Me personally I would love to see him in the middle of the park tackling and running down the opposition like dogs, with a strong fast backline behind him and our most mobile and troublesome players in front of him.
Bang on - first touch of too many of our players is lacking, and as far as I'm concerned, that is a good proportion of the play with the ball. The only improvement I've seen over time is the ability to kick with his left.
Potential? Tons, but I don't expect most of it to be achieved.
I sort of agree with/see both sides of this debate.
But, at the end of the day he is--for me at least--no worse than most of the others we have. However, he is young, has loads of raw athletic potential that maybe can one day be transformed into soccer playing ability, and he also tries.
Keep him and hope he can progress with experience.
I can see Wynne being a decent MLS right winger if he mentally applies himself to retool his game to that of a winger
I think his one on one ability, short passing and crossing has slightly improved and he seems to know when to go forward.
he's useless as a fullback
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
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Wynne is 23. He can only sharpen his skills not develop them further. He can improve his touch, and soccer IQ slightly but not by much. That said, he will be a solid career MLS player.
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