I thought we played well enough to win...but dropping two points is heartbreaking...I hope we don't need 'em at the end of the year, 'cause they were in the palms of our hands!
I thought we played well enough to win...but dropping two points is heartbreaking...I hope we don't need 'em at the end of the year, 'cause they were in the palms of our hands!
Agreed, this could come back and bite us in the ass.Originally Posted by felipe
We should have won, but it was the same problem we have seen before, that lack of killer instinct. Time for someone on the team to decide that they need to bury teams and give them no chance at a comeback.
I can understand playing a defensive game to protect the lead but you can't play it for that long. Last 5 or so minutes sure, but it seemed to me they were playing that style for the entire second half. It wouldn't surprise me if that last 3-0 loss psyched them out a bit.
Overall though I was happy with the effort. Not thrilled about the tie, but don't have that shitty feeling I have had when they booked it in like against RSL or Chicago.
That's a problem when you're playing fullback, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
He's clearly not a footballer, Attakora's a superior player
I agree but I was trying to sugar coat it after all the uproar my thread about wanting Wynne sold or traded caused.
I liked Nana today. Barrett was working hard, but he could have done better with that chance he had. He took the most predictable shot possible and Onstad read it easily.
Also, today convinced me that we need more evening kick-offs. The atmosphere wasn't great today, for later kick-offs it's always electric. Obviously though, the lack of alcohol available in the stadium had something to do with it as well...
He's got world class speed & no football sense, poor positioning & gives up needless fouls.I agree but I was trying to sugar coat it after all the uproar my thread about wanting Wynne sold or traded caused.
He's not the best right back on the team, over rated footballer, decent athlete, taxi for Wynne
Discrimination is NOT illegal unless it's a state actor or a private actor who is required to operated under legislation [i.e. employers, landlords, etc.] Being a bigot is perfectly legal. You can ban anyone you want from your house, but you gotta rent an apartment to them.
The only thing blown out of proportion was the approach taken by BMO. The level of security was disproportionate to the risk of people sneaking in booze. Not many people would have done it. And, you're also overstating the consequences of people sneaking booze in. If they kicked people out they saw drinking, they would be fine. Rogers Centre had a dry Jays game earlier this year and they didn't frisk everyone. Also, a liquor licence relates to serving of alcohol.
I personally don't like being treated like a criminal. I resent the assumption that I'm going to break the rules. Like I said in my first post, we don't let cops search us without reasonable grounds. Yet, we're willing to put up with it at a soccer game of all things? Sure, it maybe lawful, but it doesn't make it right.
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Does it bother you that they scan everyone at the airport?
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
only when they take my nail clippers
Being given a once-over by security is fine and I recognize this as a necessary inconvenience... But I was felt up three times. By a yellow just outside the gate, at the gate, and then again by a yellow just inside the gate. Slight overkill.
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I agree with that. Three times is completely excessive.
I was more getting to this idea that the very concept of "assumed guilt" in checking everyone, is wrong and offensive.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
OK, we're on the same page then...
I thought Amado, Jimmy B, Wynne and Dichio were below average. I think Garcia will turn out to be useless. He is slow, short and only clutches and grabs to stay with players. What has happened to Marvell? He definitely has no soccer sense, but not even his speed was a factor.
If we finish our chances, we have 3 points. Misses from Vitti, Barrett, and others killed us as always. There was also a weak shot that Dero took that he started with his back to goal. He should have laid it back to Vitti who was facing the net. Why is it that Dero never passes to Vitti?
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Dichio had that one brutal miss too, off the feed from DeRo (I think).
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
You are right, it was floated in to Dichio and he missed the net by 10 feet
His first touch really let him down, it took him too far wide. That happened for a lot of guys tonight. We weren't as sharp as we needed to be.
CANADA's a police state! always has been.
No. And I recognize it might sound hypocritical, but the checks at the airport are more proportionate to the risks and consequences. Planes do get hijacked and the consequences are tragic. It's also different because you know before you buy a ticket you're going to have to be searched. I just wanted to go to a footie match.
Maybe I am crazy, but I found it to be a huge overreaction and a huge violation. And I took offence at being presumed guilty. I was also angry that my dad was told he was being searched for drugs. [For the record, police aren't allowed to randomly search bus passengers for drugs on known trafficking routes.]
Clearly.Your analogy is weak, but thanks for trying to protect our civil liberties.
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If you think it's an overreaction, that's fine.
But if the idea of presumed guilt offends you, then the level of consequences if you WERE guilty shouldn't enter into it.
I actually think frisking everyone was a huge overreaction - but I don't really see anything wrong with it. And it doesn't offend me either, for the same reason airport scanners don't offend me. It's not a matter of assuming guilt - it's a matter of not knowing who is guilty, and who isn't. And I bet they caught a ton of people trying to sneak booze in, too.
And the reason they did it, I bet, is probably because there was a potential for huge fines, or a longer license suspension, if anyone was seen with alcohol at BMO while their license was suspended for that game. And the only way to really ensure that didn't happen, would be to frisk everyone.
I don't suspect we will see the same thing next home game.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
The problem was finishing.
TFC was pushing for a second goal until near the end when Velez was subbed in.
BTW, contrary to some observers here, I agree with that decision, it was the right thing to settle for a draw at that time as it sure looked like we were going to give up a second goal and had to quickly solidify the back line.
To the one who said that Cummins "only subs for an injury," that is simply untrue. Velez for Vitti was a careful strategic decision, whether you agree with it or not. Now you might ask why he didn't use the 3rd sub. Well I was actually thinking about the question of a third sub in the last 10 minutes, and couldn't think of anyone that was on the bench that I would have preferred on the field, apart from Serioux, who was obviously unavailable.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
It illustrates the point that you can't do whatever you want simply because you own a private venue. It was an "over the top" analogy by design. [Whether is worked or not is a different storyClearly.]
I realize that I'm starting to look like I'm a crazy, but we live in a country where authority figures are not allowed to just search people. Yesterday, the Supreme Court acquitted a man who had $4M worth of cocaine in his car because the police had no grounds to search him [even though he was ultimately guilty.] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1222134/ It all comes down to a reasonable expectation of privacy.
I'll drop it. It really pissed me off. It just struck me as really wrong, but it seems like I'm in the minority. [And the dripping sarcastic mockery is beginning to stain] I'll see if I'm still pissed off the morning.
Last edited by Gueezer; 07-18-2009 at 08:28 PM.
Velez was also playing up front as a striker when he got subbed in
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Went to the game.
Missed beer even though I thought I wouldn't. I guess its true you don't know what you got until its gone.
Late Dynamo goal hit hard b/c it was preventable even though Houston was coming on strong.
I do think that BMO is unlike other MLS stadiums b/c we seem to get more reaction from opposing players that I don't see watching other games. (Houston's 10 with the mohawk)
ist half mediocre by our standards....2nd half we defended for 45 mins and paid the price...but a point is a point..
Crushed that three points couldn't be had. Mad that the tying goal was given up with the usually slop-assed defence.
Now of course Chicago, Columbus AND DC all win. From sharing the lead to hanging onto fourth. Two games up on KC and only one against Colorado (5th seed in the west). It's leaving us with almost no margin of error here...and that's what scares me.
Still possibly the only known RPB to appear on Masterchef Canada.
(I think?)
Sloppy play from Jimmy B cost us the 3 points. Hi-Def TFC was pretty cool but it really showed how badly worn the turf is......it getting harder and harder to watch pro soccer on such a crap pitch.
I saw the huge line up at gate 1, so I walked down to the South entrance, had about 5 ppl in front of and I was in. I thought the double check was over kill, hard to believe some of you got tripled checked.
Congrats to Security in the South Stand today.
1- entering gate 3 my son was told he couldn't bring in a flag. I told the goon that actually he WAS allowed to as we were in the Supporters' section. He wisely chose not to argue with me
2-special shout out to the goon in 115 for telling a STH that his kid could not stand on the seat to watch the match. He called for back up as a bunch of us were telling him to leave them alone and keep an eye out for real issues. His supervisor came over and sorted the situation out. Seems like over-enthusiasm from the newbie.
Season almost done and these tossers still don't get it.
Sorry Bobo...completely untrue. Maybe you missed it up but we tried to pick up 127 chants twice during the game. The plain fact is, it doesn't work well because of the speed of sound and the timelag. But we did try and we keep trying even though in my opinion it's a futile exercise.
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