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    Default Fernando Morientes Coming to North America

    According to his represenatives he wants to sign either with the Mexican Primera league or MLS....Now THIS is the type of guy TFC should try and sign as DP...not JDG...He's a goal machine and only 32...

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    WOW Morientes would be huge.

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    ^Crapids have been linked with his services.

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    What would his DP cost be estimated at peeps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuvinho View Post
    ^Crapids have been linked with his services.
    So?
    We should make a better offer.

    All due respect to the only De Guzman...but we need a DP striker...not a DP DM.

    Morientes would be Epic

    I see a lot of people in the petition thread saying YES....who were saying that $350K for Robo is too much for a DM back in season 1 and 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppamidnight View Post
    What would his DP cost be estimated at peeps?
    I'm guessing it would be 'Blanco' kind of money...What do good strikers get in Mexico?

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    I'd love to see Morientes here. Him and Gerba paired up front... *drools*

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    In Marca (Spanish newspaper) it says he's interested in the USA, Mexico or the Middle East.

    Morientes would be sweet here, but I think, like De Guz (and I started that thread for some fun!) he's more likely to sign elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    In Marca (Spanish newspaper) it says he's interested in the USA, Mexico or the Middle East.

    Morientes would be sweet here, but I think, like De Guz (and I started that thread for some fun!) he's more likely to sign elsewhere.

    Once again our plastic pitch would be a HUGE deciding factor IMO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by olegunnar View Post
    So?
    We should make a better offer.

    All due respect to the only De Guzman...but we need a DP striker...not a DP DM.

    Morientes would be Epic

    I see a lot of people in the petition thread saying YES....who were saying that $350K for Robo is too much for a DM back in season 1 and 2.

    Gotta love the level of intellect here.
    I'm not convinced. Remember, teams with DPs (which are usually goal scorers in this league) have traditionally not dominated the league. I think that is due, inherently, to the inconsistancy of goal scorers. I mean, what if your striker has a bad day? What if he gets no service? What if the other teams see your relience on one person, and mark him out of the game? I think it would be an interesting experiment to bring in a DP DM. He would have a better chance of stabilizing the team. Strengthening our defense, and linking our offense better. Being a 90 minute game changer, and not just pulling out 1 brilliant play a game. If we solidify the mid, and build from the back, we could rely on strikers of lesser quality and still get results (ok, not Barrett and Vitti quality, but Buddle quality).

    And remember not everyone complained about Robbo's salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maninb View Post
    Once again our plastic pitch would be a HUGE deciding factor IMO...
    Probably. Also the lifestyle. It's no secret that Huckerby wanted the California lifestyle as much as anything for his retirement gig.

    Anyway, I'd take De Guzman any day of the week as our DP. But I agree we should still be looking for another striker.
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    well if it's a lifestyle thing I can't see him choosing Colorado over Toronto. unless he likes skiing and stadiums in the middle of nowhere called DICK'S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    I'm not convinced. Remember, teams with DPs (which are usually goal scorers in this league) have traditionally not dominated the league. I think that is due, inherently, to the inconsistancy of goal scorers. I mean, what if your striker has a bad day? What if he gets no service? What if the other teams see your relience on one person, and mark him out of the game? I think it would be an interesting experiment to bring in a DP DM. He would have a better chance of stabilizing the team. Strengthening our defense, and linking our offense better. Being a 90 minute game changer, and not just pulling out 1 brilliant play a game. If we solidify the mid, and build from the back, we could rely on strikers of lesser quality and still get results (ok, not Barrett and Vitti quality, but Buddle quality).

    And remember not everyone complained about Robbo's salary.
    hence why you don't put all your eggs in one basket, and you ensure that your 2nd and 3rd strikers are at least half decent and can score goals

    Morientes would make an excellent replacement for Dichio
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocker View Post
    well if it's a lifestyle thing I can't see him choosing Colorado over Toronto. unless he likes skiing and stadiums in the middle of nowhere called DICK'S.
    Yeah, more about a "no pressure" atmosphere.
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    THAT would be awesome! Morientes!


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    I'm not liking this middle east types having interest though. They can throw a lot of cash at Morientes
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Soul View Post
    THAT would be awesome! Morientes!

    Not Liverpool Morientes though, that guy was crap. I'd rather have Spain Morientes or Real madrid Morientes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlofletch View Post
    Not Liverpool Morientes though, that guy was crap. I'd rather have Spain Morientes or Real madrid Morientes.
    Unfortunately, that player is long gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Unfortunately, that player is long gone.

    To be fair, the 'JP Angel' of the past was long gone when he came to the MLS, and look what he did first season. IMO Morientes is a much better, smarter and more skilled player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maninb View Post
    I'm guessing it would be 'Blanco' kind of money...What do good strikers get in Mexico?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maninb View Post
    He's a goal machine and only 32...
    Yep, he's a monster. Morientes has played quite well for Valencia, especially in European competitions.

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    It's also not whether TFC can make a better offer because Colorado probably has a discovery thing on him so Toronto would have to trade for that just like the McBride situation.

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    i don't think you can have a discovery thing on an old guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by prizby View Post
    i don't think you can have a discovery thing on an old guy
    But you can get his rights, as we did with McBride.
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    DPs don't need a discovery claim.

    McBride was a returning USMT player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuvinho View Post
    DPs don't need a discovery claim.

    McBride was a returning USMT player.
    using a discovery right on a foreign player means that team gets first dibs, and any other teams wanting to sign him has to trade for his rights

    completely different than returning USMNT player scenario
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    LOL I just asked El Juan whatever happened to him and he told me about this LOL... But he said he might stay @ Valencia if VIlla leaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    using a discovery right on a foreign player means that team gets first dibs, and any other teams wanting to sign him has to trade for his rights

    completely different than returning USMNT player scenario
    I thought that if you sign a player as a DP, it overrides any discovery claim another team has?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuvinho View Post
    I thought that if you sign a player as a DP, it overrides any discovery claim another team has?
    i'm not sure about that actually...

    crazy MLS rules
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    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Morientes

    available on free transfer. however, he is now linked with Olympic Marseilles
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

    -Eduardo Galeano

 

 

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