Barrett Vs. Vitti

[[NBF]]

Two men enter, one must score, and the other must copy. Its a game of Horse.

I Figure this might have been a lineup at some point during the season, but both of these guys need a goal and the pressure of putting both side by side will bring results.


4-4-2:

------------------Frei------------------
Attakora----Velez-----Serioux---Brennan
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J. Smith---Robinson--DeRosario--Ricketts
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----------Vitti----------Barrett---------

or

-----------------Frei-------------------
Garcia---Attakora----Serioux----Brennan

[Brooker]

barrett has actually scored....

vitti has not... so i voted for chad.

it's funny... pablo always looks like he's about to break out... especially when he hit the post in vancouver... that should have been his coming out party.

CMON PABLO! BREAK THAT ICE!

[Kickit09]

Who would score first if Vitti and Barrett are lined up side by side?

trick question

[InTheCrowd]

Vitti has scored for us. It was just offside.

[FluSH]

Vitti has scored for us. It was just offside.

well he's scored against us...

[InTheCrowd]

well he's scored against us...

If that counts for anything lol.

[poppamidnight]

Question: If both are not all that likely to score, what is the point of this poll...

Shouldn't it be classified as who does more/creates more opportunities?

...Not that it would change the outcome:

Pablo Vitti = more likely to score, does more/creates more opportunities than Chad

[Kickit09]

I just looked at the results, since i refuse to vote in this ludicrous poll, and I'm amazed that Vitti is in the lead with twice as many votes as Barrett ( 41-20). As bad as Barrett is, at least he's scored a goal this season. Must be the same people voting that voted in the Vitti vs Montero poll.

[DoubleUp]

Chad does more actual work, but Vitti makes doin less look more spectacular.

[poppamidnight]

I just looked at the results, since i refuse to vote in this ludicrous poll, and I'm amazed that Vitti is in the lead with twice as many votes as Barrett ( 41-20). As bad as Barrett is, at least he's scored a goal this season. Must be the same people voting that voted in the Vitti vs Montero poll.

Why has he scored?
-Got more starts/oppurtunities than Barrett...

Quite simple really.

It's like the Chinese Olympic team....
Hammer out over a million athletes and your bound to get a couple medals here and there.....

...Doesn't necessarily mean they are better than others.....


It's like the carnival,
Take your little BB gun - If you get 1 or 2 bulletts, your not gunna shot out those little star things,
Give a full clip - your likely to shoot out the star


Vitti does more with his limited starts than Chad does,

and PS -
I have yet to see anyone (besides chat barrett) who can kick a ball inside the box 20 yards away from goal,
or put two beautifully-set-up headers within minutes of each other right into the goalie

[Kickit09]

Doesn't matter if Barrett has played more because Vitti has had more than enough time and opportunities to score a goal. Barrett has played 989 minutes and has 2 goals, Vitti has played 715 minutes and no goals. By comparison, Dichio has 2 goals in 512 minutes. Bottom line is Vitti and Barrett are both shit, but according to Mo "good enough".

[poppamidnight]

Doesn't matter if Barrett has played more because Vitti has had more than enough time and opportunities to score a goal. Barrett has played 989 minutes and has 2 goals, Vitti has played 715 minutes and no goals. By comparison, Dichio has 2 goals in 512 minutes. Bottom line is Vitti and Barrett are both shit, but according to Mo "good enough".

Factor in the fact your less likely to score off the bench, due to the fact your not in the rhythm of the game (not sure if you've ever played before - but it's a fact),

Yes bottom line is both are crap, But your quote inferred that Barrett was somehow better than Vitti...
...which is by no means so,

I had to say something... Can't just have people in here saying the world is flat now can we?

[TFC USA]

Who cares? Barrett and Vitti's combined work rate can make us the hardest working team to not score in the MLS!

[InTheCrowd]

I know Barrett can be amazing. Anyone remember last season?

[trane]

Thank god we started old slow Dichio.

[TFC USA]

Fuck last season. This season he's shit.

[trane]

Neither of them are likely to have a future as strikers, if I had to chose one, I would take Vitti, but he is on a shot leash. If the salary cap were not an issue I would keep them both convert them both one to CM, Vitti, one to Winger. Both have some good attributes, and can be MLS starters, maybe all-stars one day, just not as strikers.

[poppamidnight]

Vitti was our best player on the pitch today...

Created almost all our attacking opportunities (aside from De-Ro near the end of the match)...

Chad had a promising run which he flubbed when he got flustered.

Vitti is proving himself an attacking wing/MF... The Guevara of our Right Side.

Chad Barrett no longer fits with this team,
Ali Gerba is our striker,
NOT Vitti/Barrett,

Vitti is our Right-Wing, creating oppurtunity
We can't have Chad Barrett + Rohan Rickett's salaries on the bench,

Barrett will go when either/or: Gerba is signed/OBW is cleared to play

[InTheCrowd]

How is Barrett just going to go?

[poppamidnight]

How is Barrett just going to go?

traded for a lesser-salary (roll player/positional player - possibly a utility defender to spell velez)

or for a mid-round pick if a team has the cap-room for him

[InTheCrowd]

traded for a lesser-salary (roll player/positional player - possibly a utility defender to spell velez)

or for a mid-round pick if a team has the cap-room for him

Nobody would want to take over Barrett's contract. 4 years with such a big salary. We're screwed unless he picks up his game.

[poppamidnight]

Nobody would want to take over Barrett's contract. 4 years with such a big salary. We're screwed unless he picks up his game.

That's why I said theres the option to trade for a lesser salary,
to fill a positional need,

Teams may not want to eat the full salary,
but would be more willing to take it if we're taking some salary in return,


Much like BC did last week for the raptors: Kapono for Reggie Evans, saved like $1-1.5/yr for identical 3-yr deals

[Kaz]

I'm thinking Vitti fell into a slump at the beginning of the season, and it looks like he's working his way out of it, if he scores in Montreal or New York, then I think we'll get our money's worth. I could see him picking up 5 or 6 by the end of the season, if he keeps working as hard as he has, and starts finding that finishing touch.

[Darlofletch]

and PS -
I have yet to see anyone (besides chat barrett) who can kick a ball inside the box 20 yards away from goal,
or put two beautifully-set-up headers within minutes of each other right into the goalie

I had to say something... Can't just have people in here saying the world is flat now can we?

I presume in your first post you're referring to the vancouver game, and the first of those headers went over the bar, the second one was the only one he headed right at the goalie.

It doesn't change the fact that he missed them both, and that he's shit, but seeing as how you're in here correcting other people's opinions, i just know you'd hate to have an actual 100% wrong fact from your own post left unchallenged.

[Darlofletch]

Vitt had a decent game again today, but once again, just can't score.

Barrett did pretty much nothing when he came on, the one time he did have a chance to run at the defence and maybe try and score, you can tell the whole time he was desperately trying to find someone to pass to, rather than take repsonsibility for trying to score himself. That seems to me like a sign his confidence is shot, which is not a good thing.

Vitti clearly deserves playing time ahead of Barrett right now, but I still have 0 confidence in his ability to score.

[Shakes McQueen]

Pretty silly poll question. If you lined up both of them in front of an empty net, jokes aside, both would probably put it in.

Vitti has good moves and footwork, but again today, wasn't able to turn it into goals. The penalty was the result of an idiotic decision by the NY defender (who falls to the ground in the box when they get beaten, and simply bats the ball away with their entire arm?), and the second goal was Dichio cleaning up a very Barrett-esque breakaway miss from Vitti.

Barrett needed to sit tonight, but aside from some good work ethic, Barrett has actually produced us a few goals (more than 2, if you include the cup). Vitti still hasn't scored, and both have had AMPLE starting lineup time at this point, so don't trot out that old excuse for Vitti.

Vitti has good technical skills, but lacks that killer finishing touch. Barrett has the work rate of a first-class footballer, but also lacks that killer finishing touch.

Both have been pretty unimpressive as strikers, in my opinion. Barrett works pretty well out wide, instead of as a target man. Vitti's skill set seems more conducive to a withdrawn second striker role, or even attacking midfielder.

I currently wouldn't be heartbroken if either of them left. That said, I still think Barrett often get's judged too harshly - especially when compared to Vitti, who seems to get a pass from more people purely based on his flashy footwork.

- Scott

[Kaz]

if you look at the replay, Vitti was tripped by the Keeper, I think had Dichio not scored right away a foul would have been called. For once I don't blame Vitti for that miss, he player that right and should have scored.

[I_AM_CANADIAN]

I'm a Vitti fan. The guy adds an extra dimension to our attack with his skill on the ball. Barrett works hard, but Vitti is a better player IMO. I don't dislike Barrett by any means, but he's had the most playing time out of all of our strikers and has failed to produce much.

[TFCRegina]

This poll question is like asking "Which cripple will learn to run first?"

Vitti created a lot of chances yesterday though.

[Erkan16]

i would take Vitti 10 times out of 10.

Barrett is a useless waste of space. fuck him.