How Much Can You Blame Mo?

[Shway]

This is a thread to all the people who are like sack mo, get rid of him, hes shyte....now let me tell you theres not much he can do other than bring in the neccessary players.For example...

At the beginning of the season, did he not bring in almost every player needed....

we got Dero, we got Frei, we got Cronin, we got our apparent goal scorer (vitti)

Now let me say, 99.99999 percent of the fans, believe MO was our saviour, at the beginning of the season, he was getting praise for all the trades he did (hence the nicky:"trader mo"). Toronto FC started out good, THEN, there is the current slump, and who does everyone blame....

My thing is John Carver, got banners, got chants, and got shirts, and what did he do but loose and leave.

Mojo, doesnt get shite....its not his fault if the coach doesnt get his team prepared for the game, who fault is it other then Cummins...

If Ancelloti does bad, there not going to blame it on Gus Hiddink,
so why do we do it with Mo?

I believe he's doing everything he can, hence the trades, hence him still being here and not a quitter.....

If we need someone to blame heres the number one name:

TOM ANSELMI

[Sonny Cheeba]

gawd. i thought the offseason was bad.

[ExiledRed]

If Ancelloti does bad, there not going to blame it on Gus Hiddink,
so why do we do it with Mo?

If Ancelloti does bad, they wont blame Hiddink cause he'll be coaching the russian team, not persuading Chelsea's best players to take paycuts in order to sign useless donkeys to four year contracts, and trading away good defenders without replacing them.

[T0R0NT0 FC]

Its' toronto... Leaf town. If they win 2 games in a row they are going to win the stanley cup, if they lose two games in a row they are the worst team in history. I guess that just rubs off on people and they treat TFC in a similar manner.

Mo's hands are severely tied. MLS has the most retarded rules in any football league in the world. It's not his fault in the end. It's the way the MLS is set up with the salary cap, amount of players, no easy move up of reserve players to the first team and on and on.

It's just the way things are in this league. :P

[CretanBull]

gawd. i thought the offseason was bad.

Amen!

[T0R0NT0 FC]

gawd. i thought the offseason was bad.

We got Dero. Our "Canadian Franchise Player", the "Match Made in Heaven". How could the off season be that bad? (oh, and Serioux and 3 sweet draft pics)

[Shway]

^^^ i forgot to add serioux into

[Sonny Cheeba]

We got Dero. Our "Canadian Franchise Player", the "Match Made in Heaven". How could the off season be that bad? (oh, and Serioux and 3 sweet draft pics)

i mean on the boards.... specifically the Toronto FC section.

[T0R0NT0 FC]

Ahh.... okay. I get that.

Seriously though... if Manchester City can't turn itself into a great team in a couple seasons with an unlimited buget and none of the MLS problems, what do people expect from a team in a salary capped, "internation player restriction" MLS league?

[Shway]

If Ancelloti does bad, they wont blame Hiddink cause he'll be coaching the russian team, not persuading Chelsea's best players to take paycuts in order to sign useless donkeys to four year contracts, and trading away good defenders without replacing them.

yea but HIDDINK is the TECHNICAL DIRECCTOR or ADVISOR meaning he can tell ancelloti to bring in this player, or that player.

As for Mo, traded Marshall got Serioux.

The paycuts were NECESSARY : Rohan Ricketts (average 30 minutes a game)
.........................................: Carl Robinson (mediocore - not a game
changer or looser)

The pay increases are showing : Amado Guevarra, Dwayne De Rosario

Biggest mistake to me so far, has been the Chad Barret extension.

Other than that you point is invalid mate

[Brooker]

should really have to get threads approved before they go up.

this board is getting ridiculous

[mclaren]

If Ancelloti does bad, they wont blame Hiddink cause he'll be coaching the russian team, not persuading Chelsea's best players to take paycuts in order to sign useless donkeys to four year contracts, and trading away good defenders without replacing them.

too true - Mo is useless, get rid.

[Shway]

They Dont Care About Mo Jo
THey Dont care about fans
Toronto Football Club is in the wrong hands

[mclaren]

Its' toronto... Leaf town. If they win 2 games in a row they are going to win the stanley cup, if they lose two games in a row they are the worst team in history. I guess that just rubs off on people and they treat TFC in a similar manner.

Mo's hands are severely tied. MLS has the most retarded rules in any football league in the world. It's not his fault in the end. It's the way the MLS is set up with the salary cap, amount of players, no easy move up of reserve players to the first team and on and on.

It's just the way things are in this league. :P

You say that as though his counterpart's in the league are not. If the job is too difficult for him he should leave. We as paying customers shouldn't be making excuses for him. His job is to do well within the constraints of the league.

[Shway]

should really have to get threads approved before they go up.

this board is getting ridiculous

obviously you are not on these boards enough to see what is being said,
or do you have a little leaf fan mindset

[ExiledRed]

Any manager worth their salt, leaves a club if they think they're hands are tied and ownership is interfering with their system, or preventing signings they can easily afford.

MoJo is onto a good thing here, as long as he plays yes man and tries to deflect the truth from the fans. That's why he's still here.

[Bars92]

Mo is the man. He played for both Rangers and Celtic. And some French club. The problem is with MLSE. Get some grass.

[Shway]

i tihnk he's doing everything he possibly can....

sometimes its the players to blame for not playing up to par

[ExiledRed]

yea but HIDDINK is the TECHNICAL DIRECCTOR or ADVISOR meaning he can tell ancelloti to bring in this player, or that player.

As for Mo, traded Marshall got Serioux.

The paycuts were NECESSARY : Rohan Ricketts (average 30 minutes a game)
.........................................: Carl Robinson (mediocore - not a game
changer or looser)

The pay increases are showing : Amado Guevarra, Dwayne De Rosario

Biggest mistake to me so far, has been the Chad Barret extension.

Other than that you point is invalid mate

The pay cuts were necessary to give the likes of Barrett a fucking raise, and to pay the $288,000 for Vitti. Since Dichio's cut, he doesn't scratch what Barrett or Vitti makes, and he's far superior. What's that about?

DeRo didnt get an increase, he was signed this year.

We needed a CB before Marshall was cut, how does replacing him with Serioux answer that need? If Marshall remained alongside Serioux we'd have much fewer problems at the back right now.

Back to the Ancellotti/Hiddink situation, both of these managers have had illustrious careers, they will be given a chance to replicate their successes. Can you tell me about Mo's previous managerial successes?

And by the way, you're quite annoying you know, with your pathetic little jabs. Stop calling people leaf fans, it seems to me that that term can be applied to both people who complain and people who dont, so it's meaningless.

[ExiledRed]

Mo is the man. He played for both Rangers and Celtic. And some French club. The problem is with MLSE. Get some grass.

Fuckin' hell. I didnt realise he played for Celtic and Rangers and Nantes. He must be some kind of genius, forget everything I said.

[Hooligan69]

Mo Jo is the brightest man on the fucking planet. He played for Celtic *and* Rangers. He's a frickin' genius so he is.

[trane]

Back to the Ancellotti/Hiddink situation, both of these managers have had illustrious careers, they will be given a chance to replicate their successes. Can you tell me about Mo's previous managerial successes?

I was going to make the same point.

Someone else compared Mo's failure, to Benitez not winning the EPL. I acctualy found myself defending LFC and Benitez ( pointing out the CL record).

[Bars92]

God bless Mo for even being here.

[TFC Tifoso]

Q: How much can you blame Mo?

A: A lot.

[ExiledRed]

God bless Mo for even being here.

You got that right, there's huge teams out there just begging for his services, but he knows Toronto needs him and he stays here out of the goodness of his heart. God Bless that man.

[ExiledRed]

Ok Im tired, and I've failed to recognise sarcasm.

Apologies Bars, I'm off to bed.

[Beach_Red]

You say that as though his counterpart's in the league are not. If the job is too difficult for him he should leave. We as paying customers shouldn't be making excuses for him. His job is to do well within the constraints of the league.

Well, it's not like any other team has run away with the league consistently.

Almost all MLS teams are pretty much the same - the winners are usually the teams with the fewest injuries, it's really a league of luck.

People here seem to love New England but they are 0-4 in championship games. Last year's winner of everything, Columbus, isn't exactly looking to repeat. People really wanted Frank Yallop but it's not like San Jose is a playoff threat.

If there was a team in this league that was consistently winning then you could point to that manager and say, 'get him,' but all the teams are up and down, it's the way the league is designed. It's why the managers aren't millionaires.

Someday TFC will have a different manager but the results will be no more consistent. The only thing they aren't doing that they should right now is spending the DP money.

[Shway]

The pay cuts were necessary to give the likes of Barrett a fucking raise, and to pay the $288,000 for Vitti. Since Dichio's cut, he doesn't scratch what Barrett or Vitti makes, and he's far superior. What's that about?

DeRo didnt get an increase, he was signed this year.

We needed a CB before Marshall was cut, how does replacing him with Serioux answer that need? If Marshall remained alongside Serioux we'd have much fewer problems at the back right now.

Back to the Ancellotti/Hiddink situation, both of these managers have had illustrious careers, they will be given a chance to replicate their successes. Can you tell me about Mo's previous managerial successes?

And by the way, you're quite annoying you know, with your pathetic little jabs. Stop calling people leaf fans, it seems to me that that term can be applied to both people who complain and people who dont, so it's meaningless.

I want to call you something but i dont want to get banned, but let me be professionall and say the comparison of MO and Hiddink were in retrospect to they can only bring in the players, not responsible for the game play, or tactics that the coach decides.....

Illustrious careers are the likes of coaching MILAN! of corse send mo there i bet he would mess it up...

send Ancelloti here, see how he does.

Your know-it-all- comments can be annoying, and pathetic, but hey nevertheless meaningless

[Super]

I'm not going to blame Mo for the situation we're in right now. I blame MLSE for not getting us grass - that's my main beef right now. I've pretty much agreed with every signing Mo has made, and I'm not going to sit here and act all clever in hindsight.

[Cashcleaner]

Its' toronto... Leaf town. If they win 2 games in a row they are going to win the stanley cup, if they lose two games in a row they are the worst team in history. I guess that just rubs off on people and they treat TFC in a similar manner.

Mo's hands are severely tied. MLS has the most retarded rules in any football league in the world. It's not his fault in the end. It's the way the MLS is set up with the salary cap, amount of players, no easy move up of reserve players to the first team and on and on.

It's just the way things are in this league. :P

You simply can't use this as an excuse, though. Every other team in the league has to play by those rules as well. They have to operate under a cap and they have roster restrictions as well. It's really a non-issue.

To be honest, I agree with the previous remarks about Mo being a Yes-Man. I've been getting that vibe for almost two seasons now. He'll basically speak to the media, asking the supporters for some patience as he gets his ducks in a row and make promise after promise with no real result at the end of it all.

Also, where is his loyalties to the players? He certainly has no problem getting the back of the front office, but when we've got our top player publicly denouncing the playing surface at BMO Field, why isn't he on his side?