Protest and debate thread...

[denime]

I'm not interested in debating anyone. No need for popcorn here.

To late I have my popcorn ready,carry on

[Roogsy]

I still don't understand why Usector was there? Isn't their official stance that everything is nice and curry...

I agree with Usector's presence. Yes they were not on board with voicing our frustration, but they are a bonafide supporters group, here since the beginning. They have earned the right to be there, despite our disagreements.

[FluSH]

I'm not going to engage in a sarcastic pissing match with you.
(and, as a message to all, I’m easy to find. dgrollins@gmail.com if you want to talk directly.)

We have Pat Onstad on the show today (at 2 p.m.) and we will be talking about the protest (not with Pat, just with each other). If anyone wants to put their voice in support of it send me an e-mail and I will get it on the air. Try and keep it brief (only because it’s really hard to read long e-mails on the air and I don’t want to edit).

wow... not only are you going to talk about something you don't understand... but you still have the audacity to plug your show on our boards... wonderful.

[Roogsy]

I wasn't. Please point out where I said that.

As I stated, the FO definitely did not know about the protest/walkout until the meeting itself. You said the meeting was a result of the impending protest/walkout, which is not true, so I responded to your post.

Sure, they knew people were pissed, and that's why they agreed to the meeting. But if you haven't noticed, on all three boards people get pissed off all the time. This isn't exactly the first shitstorm to ever hit the boards.

This time was different and the FO have admitted as much. Like I said, you are portraying the head office as being unaware of the circumstances, which is completely misleading. Otherwise, in the middle of a busy week, with the Real Madrid announcement, the pending River Plate announcement, the LA Galaxy game AND the '86 players presentation, why did Paul Bierne, Jim Brennan and Chris Cummins decide last minute to take an afternoon to meet with the supporters groups? Just cause we asked? Who believes this?

[FluSH]

I agree with Usector's presence. Yes they were not on board with voicing our frustration, but they are a bonafide supporters group, here since the beginning. They have earned the right to be there, despite our disagreements.

What about TRN? Where they present?

[denime]

What about TRN? Where they present?

NO ,as usual

[Darlofletch]

And yet this is still RPB board and we have U-Sector vs NEE pissing match live

Let me get some popcorn guys and than you can carry on.

Please let's get back to topic,this is not helping anybody.

I disagree with that. I get that it's maybe agreed to keep things confidential, behind closed doors, or at least in members only sections, but if not I'd love to hear more details about this, who was there, what was said etc.

[Phil]

What about TRN? Where they present?

They were invited but did not show. Probably due to time constraints. It was a bit awkward as far as the clock went.

My understanding was that it was the standard group invite list.

[Parkdale]

but if not I'd love to hear more details about this, who was there, what was said etc.

thread already exist with a simple summary of what was said.
it's pretty much free from opinion, and just a simple overview.

hopefully, it can stay that way, because clearly person opinions
on the subject are all based on hearsay and moods

[Darlofletch]

They Dont Care About Players
They Dont Care About Fans
Toronto Football Club
Is In The Wrong Hands!!!!!

Not only true, but ridiculously catchy. Since the protest I can't get that tune out of my head.

[denime]

I disagree with that. I get that it's maybe agreed to keep things confidential, behind closed doors, or at least in members only sections, but if not I'd love to hear more details about this, who was there, what was said etc.

It has nothing to do with being confidential.
We don't need pissing match between NEE and U-Sector on our board.



You can go to U-Sector board and read what happened at the meeting from their angle,after that you go to NEE and do the same.

[masrawy]

No, but keep telling yourself that.

To quote another leader in your group, who interjected at the very end, undermining all that was said, "we don't think the sky is falling ."

Smiley face is an important part of the quote.

[Hooligan69]

Not only true, but ridiculously catchy. Since the protest I can't get that tune out of my head.

It's borrowed from Liverpool FC supporters. And, yes, it's definitely one catchy number.

[MarioNEE]

Who walked out of that meeting upset, it was Paul B. (so I am told)

I have no doubt that he was blindsided, and feels that he was taken advantage of.

Just as I feel that I have been taken advangate of by MLSE.



THE PURPOSE OF THE PROSTEST WAS TO CALL OUT THE FO, AND MO.
if you think that goal wasn't achieved at the meeting, say so. If you think that goal wasn't unwise, say so.

but don't act like you said anything at the meeting.

[Parkdale]

To quote another leader in your group, who interjected at the very end, undermining all that was said, "we don't think the sky is falling ."

Smiley face is an important part of the quote.

maybe it isn't?

has the team been sold to Vegas or something?

as for the 'undermining'... again, your agenda and your opinion. lots of people think it's not the end of the world.

[denime]

[FluSH]

maybe it isn't?

has the team been sold to Vegas or something?

as for the 'undermining'... again, your agenda and your opinion. lots of people think it's not the end of the world.

Some people care more than others... I can't believe I am quoting Gareth Wheeler but he had a great piece today...

TFC isn't the Maple Leafs -- failures, broken promises, and maltreatment of the fans will not be tolerated.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soc...09811-sun.html


If people want me to wait for years and years of incompetence and failure like the CSA and the Leafs then you are looking at the wrong guy cause I won't put up with that shit...

[H Bomb]

looks like a storms a brewin

[Rudi]

but don't act like you said anything at the meeting.

Were you there? You're coming across as if you were.

My stance is known. No need to continually call me out.

[Parkdale]

TFC isn't the Maple Leafs -- failures, broken promises, and maltreatment of the fans will not be tolerated.

I know, it's hard to quote that guy but he did have a good point.

We're making it clear that we're not happy with the state of affairs,
which is something you rarely (if ever) get from the Leafs Nation.

[David]

Were you there?

Knowledge is power.

[FluSH]

I know, it's hard to quote that guy but he did have a good point.

We're making it clear that we're not happy with the state of affairs,
which is something you rarely (if ever) get from the Leafs Nation.

I even gave him a LINK...

[Roogsy]

Guys, we have already warned that NEE/Usector issues are not for this board to deal with. If you guys have problems with each other take it elsewhere. This thread will be closed and infractions/bans given if we perceive that a respectful dialogue cannot happen.

[FluSH]

I know, it's hard to quote that guy but he did have a good point.

We're making it clear that we're not happy with the state of affairs,
which is something you rarely (if ever) get from the Leafs Nation.

you mean some of us supporters are making it clear that we are not happy with the current state of affairs...

[Pigfynn]

It's somewhat respectful, besides where else are you going to hear the REAL feelings of all 3 major groups at once?

I'm fascinated. I also think it helps to get things out.

[Roogsy]

It's somewhat respectful, besides where else are you going to hear the REAL feelings of all 3 major groups at once?

I'm fascinated. I also think it helps to get things out.

I agree that honesty is necessary, but we also know these threads can get out of control real fast. We are keeping an eye on it for now but not closing it. These issues are important. However, the second people step out of line, nobody should be surprised if it gets dealt with swiftly.

[jabbronies]

It's somewhat respectful, besides where else are you going to hear the REAL feelings of all 3 major groups at once?

I'm fascinated. I also think it helps to get things out.

Agreed. As long as board rules are followed, I say let it go

[king dave]

Jumpin' Gee Wilikers, you step away from this place for a day and all heck breaks loose!
KD.

[Hooligan69]

Jumpin' Gee Wilikers, you step away from this place for a day and all heck breaks loose!
KD.

LOL It's true. It's damn true.

[king dave]

the ban hammer. .

Yes, that's it!
A ham banner!
KD.