Toronto FC @ FC Dallas Post-Game Thread

[Shakes McQueen]

Have at it guys.

- Scott

[TFC USA]

Yet again we give up a goal late in Dallas and that's the 5th time we've given up a penalty against them.

Did not play well but did good to come back from 2-0 down. Good to see Barrett score.

But it all has gone to waste.

John Carver has convinced me that he is just a stubborn idiot. Dichio in the 90th? Why is he doing this over and over again? Put him in earlier if you want a bigger impact. His substitutions are so dumb. Velez for Ibbe? Really?

He does this every week when it's a close game. He's the most mechanical manager in MLS.


I'm giving Barrett another chance. Carver has to go.


FIRE JOHN CARVER!

[dag]

Woe.

[billyfly]

Dang.

[kodiakTFC]

- Serioux played well
- we need a RPB bounce house with face painters
- need to work on finish

[Shakes McQueen]

I'm going to go to the corner store and chill out for a while. I'm really pissed about how this game ended, and how listless we were in the first half.

- Scott

[TFC USA]

If it reads like I'm going all over the place. It's because I am.

The worst team in MLS is now us. And with the players we have we should be doing better than this. Enough of this 5 year plan BS, time to take out the trash.

[MUFC_Niagara]

I got more excitement taking a pee at half time...

[Shakes McQueen]

Already made one of these a few minutes ago:
http://64.13.252.151/forums/showthread.php?t=12339

Can a mod please merge these?

- Scott

[Davenport]

That was pathetic..from start to finish.
From Johnston to the worst player in the squad, they are simply not good enough.
A very poor excuse for a football team.

[Beach_Red]

If Dichio can't play he should retire and free up the cap space for someone who can.

And if can play - he should start.

[Inswingingwingman]

TFC should threaten to not play. That was such a bad call it cannot be defended. There is some sort of plot to ensure that American teams win games. No other ref in any reputable league would have given a penalty kick for a ball to arm in the box. TFC would be better to start shooting at opposing players arms that the goal. We did our best, got back in the game, but in the end the game was not decided by the play, by the players, it was decided by the ref. That would be ok if there was a reason, but it was just lets screw the the Canadian team.

I cannot understand why Carver didn't just go out and get the red card and tell the ref he was F'n stupid.

I thought I had seen everything but that was just fricking stupid. They should have told TFC to stay in the hotel and drink instead of showing up. Would have made no difference.

[Sonny Cheeba]

this loss just makes me more pissed that we Tied last week...

fuckin crap.

[MUFC_Niagara]

Well, TFC USA started his thread, giambac is on route, LucaGol is here....the gangs all here!

[LucaGol]

... just read last game's post game thread.

To sum up:

1. No effort
2. No creativity
3. Lucky breaks on goal(s)
4. Carver ... nice to have a beer with ... but out of his depth

[sully]

I keep asking myself why I should continue to support this league when its referees don't know the rules of the game... Any idiot could tell you that was an accidental handball.. I can accept its a low standard of football, it is what it is so that's OK...but when something like this happens...it might be time to move on..

[Batman]

merged

[LucaGol]

Well, TFC USA started his thread, giambac is on route, LucaGol is here....the gangs all here!

This is prime time for us.

So much good material to heap more pressure on Carver.

[Shakes McQueen]

merged

Thanks sir.

- Scott

[Sonny Cheeba]

I keep asking myself why I should continue to support this league when its referees don't know the rules of the game... Any idiot could tell you that was an accidental handball.. I can accept its a low standard of football, it is what it is so that's OK...but when something like this happens...it might be time to move on..

i don't usually stick up for the MLS refs. in fact i quite often speak out against their crap calls.

but that was the right call. if it hit his arm and his arm was right against his body, then it would be the wrong call. his arm was sticking out, parallel to the pitch. it's the right call, unintentional or not.

thems the breaks.

[Marco2K]

WTF is Carver doing?

[Kevin]

If Dichio can't play he should retire and free up the cap space for someone who can.

And if can play - he should start.

Excelent words of wisdom!

[TFC USA]

TFC should threaten to not play. That was such a bad call it cannot be defended. There is some sort of plot to ensure that American teams win games. No other ref in any reputable league would have given a penalty kick for a ball to arm in the box. TFC would be better to start shooting at opposing players arms that the goal. We did our best, got back in the game, but in the end the game was not decided by the play, by the players, it was decided by the ref. That would be ok if there was a reason, but it was just lets screw the the Canadian team.

I cannot understand why Carver didn't just go out and get the red card and tell the ref he was F'n stupid.

I thought I had seen everything but that was just fricking stupid. They should have told TFC to stay in the hotel and drink instead of showing up. Would have made no difference.

I don't care. Once again we went up against a supposedly inferior opponent and dug ourselves a hole we couldn't get out of. Missed chance after missed chance. Long ball after long ball. It's monotonous football and I hate it.

Time for a new day in TFC history. This ain't the Vancouver Canucks. Vigneault at least had playoff experience. This Carver idiot? Not so much.

[sully]

i don't usually stick up for the MLS refs. in fact i quite often speak out against their crap calls.

but that was the right call. if it hit his arm and his arm was right against his body, then it would be the wrong call. his arm was sticking out, parallel to the pitch. it's the right call, unintentional or not.

thems the breaks.

It is not the right call. There must be intent.

[Mojo]

Sigh.

[Gixmo]

I hate to incur the wrath here, but how many of you guys are actually match officials... As in, have the proper credentials..

Anyone who does, will tell you that yes, It sucks.. but that's a penalty... It's
A: In the box (Which is merely a catalyst for problems)
B: Arms are NOT at the players side
C: The ball hit the arm

It's a rough call, it's a harsh call..but it's the right call...

Now, with that out of the way - A fairly beer league performance there, weak.

[Inswingingwingman]

Not Carver's fault. We were in the game. Our goals were legit. They got one as a gift. Little baby HeZues gave them the game. They had nothing to do with the win, Dallas. It was the ref. I'd make it clear they can go F themselves, we can change leagues and make them look like morons.

Cause they are morons...

[MUFC_Niagara]

i don't usually stick up for the MLS refs. in fact i quite often speak out against their crap calls.

but that was the right call. if it hit his arm and his arm was right against his body, then it would be the wrong call. his arm was sticking out, parallel to the pitch. it's the right call, unintentional or not.

thems the breaks.

then why is not made all the time? if you are going to call that at least be consistent.

[Nuvinho]

This is going to be a tough stretch of games (Chivas, KC, and Columbus).

[Beach_Red]

This is prime time for us.

So much good material to heap more pressure on Carver.

Of course, he would have looked pretty good if they'd actually scored in the first ten minutes, putting out the same line-up as last week.

The thing is, when they didn't and then when Dallas completely took over no adjustments were made. It's all on a hope and a prayer.