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    Default Ives says new CB will now be a summer transfer target

    TFC pass on Perlaza

    Ecuadorian defender Jose Luis Perlaza left Toronto FC after a short trial and will not sign a deal. The central defender has signed with Ecuadorian club Barcelona. TFC fans wondering whether Perlaza was the mystery central defender Toronto FC has long been eying can relax. He is not. TFC sources tell me that the centerback the club was eying all winter is now a summer transfer window option after his club balked at selling him in the midst of a promotion fight (and yes, I'm still working to get the name of this mystery defender.)
    http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_b...ers-group.html

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    Speculators do your job, here's what we know he's probably from a championship club that is close to getting into the premier league. Discuss

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    Wow. Lots of info here to fuel speculation.

    Present team in a promotion fight
    CB
    Beirne said "big name for MLS" or something like that - feel free to correct me.
    what else?

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    Oh god! Rumors playing with my heart again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Mizz View Post
    Speculators do your job, here's what we know he's probably from a championship club that is close to getting into the premier league. Discuss
    or league 2 team going for league 1? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Mizz View Post
    Speculators do your job, here's what we know he's probably from a championship club that is close to getting into the premier league. Discuss
    That could be any number of clubs. Right now the clubs involved in the promotion race in the Championship are:

    1 Wolves
    2 Birmingham
    3 Sheffield United
    4 Cardiff City
    5 Reading
    6 Burnley
    7 Swansea City
    8 Preston North End
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    Why is everyone assuming England??

    or did I miss something?

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    Glenn Loovens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodoubtguy View Post
    Why is everyone assuming England??

    or did I miss something?
    because that's all we know...if you know anything about another league, feel free to speculate!!

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    Glenn Loovens might be too young

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodoubtguy View Post
    Why is everyone assuming England??

    or did I miss something?
    haha, that's funny. And true. Shows you the number of biased people on here

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    This makes no sense. If he's important enough to be retained for a promotion push to the Premiership, then why would he want to move to MLS instead of playing against the shining lights of the PL next season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pachuco View Post
    haha, that's funny. And true. Shows you the number of biased people on here
    Actually my first inclination was to look at the 2 Bundesliga, sorry to disappoint.
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    i really wish we could get a quality CB before half the season is over. but i guess better late than never.

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    Segunda Division teams in Spain fighting for promotion:

    Xerez CD
    CD Tenerife
    Rayo Vallecano
    Hercules CF
    Real Zaragoza

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMIN8R View Post
    Glenn Loovens might be too young
    but he's a jouneyman...been on 5 teams already - 3 on loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcho View Post
    This makes no sense. If he's important enough to be retained for a promotion push to the Premiership, then why would he want to move to MLS instead of playing against the shining lights of the PL next season?
    Which makes me wonder if Ives meant relegation...It would certainly make the speculation a bit easier.

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    ^ yeah maybe.

    I think for now we:

    A) don't have nearly enough to go on to start making educated guesses: and
    B) still don't know if this new CB rumour has any substance to it or is just fuelling itself in the gossip columns.

    Besides which we really could have done with this guy (if he even exists) the day after Marshall left. Our back line isn't exactly brimming with confidence so far this season, despite the addition of Serioux...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcho View Post
    This makes no sense. If he's important enough to be retained for a promotion push to the Premiership, then why would he want to move to MLS instead of playing against the shining lights of the PL next season?
    Because, he probably wouldnt get a game in the PL as he's not good enough. There is a massive gap between the PL and Championship, and it's getting bigger. Most teams that get promoted often replace a good chunk of the team that got promoted. Championship teams are usually made up of young players who are getting playign experience before stepping up (if they are good enough), older players who cant quite cut the PL any more, and of course players who arent good enough to step up.

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    ^ not sure i agree about replacing a good chunk of the team, but it's definitely possible that if this team gets promoted then the player in question might not be seen as a first teamer in the PL. It's not unusal for teams to keep bit part players until the end of an important seaosn in case they are needed, and the likelihood is that the selling club won't get any significant money for this guy because MLS rarely pays out, so why not keep him until the Summer?

    We have a large chunk of our home games between now and the end of May though, so even if we sign this mystery CB we're unlikely to see much of him at BMO Field this season - gah!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveisonfire View Post
    Which makes me wonder if Ives meant relegation...It would certainly make the speculation a bit easier.
    That is exactly what I was thinking because it said they decided not to sell him which is somthing a team fighting a relegation battle thinks about not one in a promotion fight
    Also people assume England because that is the most likely of scenarios, really how many players from Spain or Italy or Germany do we have? But players from the Championship/League 1 are plentiful. Brennan, Dichio, Robbo, Ricketts

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    Here is a big name, currently fighting for promotion in Spain's Real Zaragosa.

    Roberto Ayala - He's 36 though. But he's played 43 games this year.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Ayala

    EDIT: Oops, he played 43 games in 2007. Note sure about 2008 yet
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    two teams id be tempted to look at would be birmingham and wolves as we've gotten players from them in the past

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    A CB good enough to win promotion from Championship to PL AS A STARTER would be a dream for us. But if we're getting some CHampionship reject who has hardly played and/or is a bit of a retirement package, then I'd rather we looked elsewhere.

    Time will tell I guess, and there does seem to be a move for younger players this season by TFC, so hope springs eternal!
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Starosta

    I don't think he is a CB but (A) he is on the roster of a team fighting for promotion (B) I think Sean Keay posted a rumor of a couple players TFC was looking at a while ago and he was one of them (C) He played for Poland at the U-20 tournament in Canada.

    His wiki says he's on loan in Poland but he's still listed on the Sheffield United website with no mention of the loan to Poland.

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    Gary Naysmith of Sheffield Utd! You heard it here first!

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    So what if the player's team gets promoted, and the team then decides they don't want to sell him, or the player himself, wants to stay in the newly promoted league he is in?

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    FWIW, the top 5 clubs chasing promotion to Ligue 1 in France are:

    RC Lens
    FC Metz
    RC Strasbourg
    US Boulogne CO
    Montpellier HSC

    I think we can discount France though; TFC doesn't have any connections there nor do its staff. That last one is an assumption, true, but one I feel pretty confident in making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccopela View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Starosta

    I don't think he is a CB but (A) he is on the roster of a team fighting for promotion (B) I think Sean Keay posted a rumor of a couple players TFC was looking at a while ago and he was one of them (C) He played for Poland at the U-20 tournament in Canada.

    His wiki says he's on loan in Poland but he's still listed on the Sheffield United website with no mention of the loan to Poland.
    yeah i think we were supposed to sign him but he fucked off (perhaps it was the other polish lad)

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    HAHA thought this too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuvinho View Post
    So what if the player's team gets promoted, and the team then decides they don't want to sell him, or the player himself, wants to stay in the newly promoted league he is in?
    well if the guy has already agreed to a contract with us the team has no rights, hes ours now...

 

 

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