Well, then I suggest the Ultras in Montreal and their friends get their asses in gear and contact their MPs and MLAs.Originally Posted by Beach_Red
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Well, then I suggest the Ultras in Montreal and their friends get their asses in gear and contact their MPs and MLAs.
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
this is so stupid.
the man wants government help to get the impact in.
but he's willing to dish out 500 million to buy the montreal canadians.
at least the man has a good sense of investment
Yeap, so he is basically saying, well Mr. Government, if you helped Toronto, then you must help me.
So it's like me saying
Well Mr. Government, since you gave welfare money out this year to some people, how about you give me some too? Oh in the meantime, I'm finally going to get an Audi R8 which has been on my list of things I've wanted for a while.
Not the same thing at all. You think the government did not know that if they wanted to, MLSE could have funded the entire stadium themselves? It isn't the same as giving out welfare. This is about making sound investments ... even if it does benefit some private parties in the short run.
I can't imagine they own the stadium in it's entirety - I just don't believe the OIB would hand over part of the Olympic facility to a private landowner.
If you don't similarly object to the government funding of BMO you are a hypocrite, cash. what is it?
And this morning the announcement is that he is interested in joining a group involved in the purchase of the Montreal Canadiens.
Just a businessman doing business. If he doesn't ask he will never get any extra dough to use in his various projects.
Can we start calling them the Montreal bailouts?
(even though we got same money)
haha.. so much for my little joke. I should have figured this would have been covered by the 37th post.
No government handouts to this assclown Saputo...there are too many people losing jobs , homes, etc to send money to Saputo....to Joey Saputo take you team and stuff it up you rear end MLS does not need you!!
.......TBH that 25 mil shud be going towards making BMO a real NSS
FUCK montreal , they can draw 55k for the chokepackt but they cant fill that Piece of shit stadium for Our footy team. CUT them off already send these fuckers back to france. Why does anyone on here support this or them after what took place at the canada game there is BEYOND ME.
rant-over.
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exactly thats why Garber should let his team sit on the sidelines for a while, 5-10 years at least...there are other importnat markets MLS need
to focus on, a second NY team, getting back to wither Tampa or Miami,
San Diego, Minnestoa just to name a few...before even considering
the Impact....
Those cities you mention aren't anywheres close to putting up a serious bid for an MLS team. Barcelona withdrew its bid for a team in Miami because of how underwhelming the market is.
As Craig Forrest just mentioned on Soccercentral, no matter how big MLS gets, they can't and won't ignore Montreal. Try not to cry too much when they do get in.
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Methinks you need to take a look at my previous posts on the topic of government subsidies for sporting venues. If you do, you will note my objections toward the use of public money for BMO Field as well. Previous posts such as...
...So you see, my position is actually very conservative. In the case of BMO Field, I believe that the government shouldn't really have anything to do with the business of building a stadium. Sport is a business afterall, so leave it up to the private sector. Because BMO Field WAS mostly built with taxpayer's money - it's only fair that the public gets some use of it.
I agree, some things are best kept seperate. I say we let the government build roads, hospitals, and schools; and the multi-million dollar sports organisations build the stadia for their own use.I certainly hope an apology for the implication of hypocrisy is on the horizon here.. Mike's Majors and Brampton battalion all playing at their own venues in relatively close proximity to each other. Why do we allow municipalities or other levels of government chip in for the cost of these mulitple venues? People have to realise that these buildings don't simply grow on trees, and the cost of a new publically-funded arena or stadium can easily pay for a new school or hospital ward. I'm not saying that it's not always a good investment on the behalf of the government, but it certainly doesn't seem like people are taking into account the real costs involved.
Last edited by Cashcleaner; 04-19-2009 at 12:22 AM.
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
Expanding the stadium- which I think Saputo also said would include building a roof over the whole thing- would provide jobs, something people are losing on a regular basis. Of course, it'd be ideal if he could fund the thing with his own money, but I don't see this as such a bad thing.
Also, after reading up, I am once again reminded of how nice the ignore feature is when mightytorontofc2008 is still posting here.
i think the real mistake here is by don garber. He will regret not letting the impact into the mls. He has been very clear that expansion teams need to have a 20,000 seat soccer specific stadium. Now looking at expansion after Toronto, San Jose...seriouly it looks like a pile of shit, with some grass in the center, seattle, not soccer specific, phillly, shaky with respect to funding, Vancouver, not soccer specific, and Portland.
Good on Saputo for low balling the MLS, they are only in it for the 40 mil, they dont really care where you play, as long as you pay, and after a few seasons and a team (kc, the KKKrew, NE) moves from there respiective home, don garber will go knocking on montreals door, and guess what, it will be a low low pice tag, Saputo will be in the MLS and for less then any other team before him, hate the team, respect the business man
KC and NE aren't going anywhere.
KC has a new stadium on the way and NE's owner owns the stadium they play in. The Crew, maybe? But no team in MLS has ever been moved. Contracted, yes, but never moved.
Garber is also very strong willed. He doesn't give in, since he has all the power here. He'll get from Saputo the same fee Vancouver and Portland paid, or more. He has never taken less in expansion fees than the previous expansion round.
Why not? The NBA, NFL and Major League Baseball all ignore Montreal.
San Jose to Houston?
Not at all, I began my post with an IF. Meaning that if the first statement is true then the second statement is true also.
By clarifying the first statement is false, you have ascertained the second statement is also false.
Why do I need to apologise for that?
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Yeah, no sign of a loaded or hostile question there.If you don't similarly object to the government funding of BMO you are a hypocrite, cash. what is it?
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
Well that clears that up then.
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No! I demand my pound of flesh, Exiled!
Like maybe a good side of Strip Loin.
Or Brisket.
Last edited by Cashcleaner; 04-19-2009 at 12:51 PM.
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
Saputo is a business man... no doubt about it
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Qwest Field in Seattle is soccer specific and perfect for MLS at capacity 27k that can be upgraded for big matches. Vancouver and Portland will also be SSS.
Saputo low-balling MLS cost him a franchise that he would have eventually only paid $35m. To get in the league in 2013 or later will cost him at least $45m. He should have just paid the $10m in 2003 when Garber offered it to him.
Based on what? There are less markets to go to and the economic climate sucks, and will for a long time.
It most likely won't cost him more, and just may be less.
It's just too early really to speculate to be honest.
exactly Montreal is a minor league town at best...no pro league outside of
Hockey should give that city a franchise....Hear that Mr Saputo...NO to Montreal in MLS!!
Actually, with the right ownership Montreal would be a great soccer market. I know you aren't interested in the CFL but starting in the 90's minoir league football went through a renaissance in Quebec and the Als in Molson stadium benefitted from that.
Now, like almost everywhere in north America minor soccer is huge and a pro team in Quebec would do really well.
The Als didn't do very well in Olympic Stadium, though, so it's not a slam dunk, but it can be done.
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