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    Default Garber threatens to move DC United

    if something can't be resolved, we will move the team.
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soc...utur.html#more

    I think it's just posturing to pressure the District into being more cooperative.

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    Hmmm, Joey, buy it UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary Canuck View Post
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soc...utur.html#more

    I think it's just posturing to pressure the District into being more cooperative.

    I think you are right, but they would be welcome in Ottawa

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    This needs to get fixed! DC has a solid core of good football supporters and that is still not the norm in this league

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    Are you sure that wasn't Gary Bettman talking?
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    Montreal United Impact??

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    I saw these news on TV... forget which channel but I was impressed to see MLS news on TV in the first place! anyhow... really sad they can't get this new stadium going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by werewolf88 View Post
    Are you sure that wasn't Gary Bettman talking?
    I'm not sure I understand the Bettman reference.

    Bettman won't move a franchise if his life depends on it. There are countless current NHL teams that should move based upon lack of support, yet unlike all other North American leagues, he's adamant to stick it out wherever they are rather than look at alternatives.

    Yet Garber says "We don't seem to be able to get a deal done and it could be that, if something can't be resolved, we will move the team."

    So he doesn't sound much like Bettman to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottawa MLS Fan View Post
    I think you are right, but they would be welcome in Ottawa

    Ottawa city council seems to think otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    I'm not sure I understand the Bettman reference.
    Referring to the old bettman; Quebec, Winnipeg, Minnesota, Hartford, etc.
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    If Utd move there are a few other good locations for the Club, Ottawa,Minnesota, New York (2), Rochester, St Louis, Tampa Bay,San Diego, just to name a few.Lets hope UTD saty in DC or DC area...they are a great franchise.

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    Mon-tre-al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Knight View Post
    Mon-tre-al.

    sorry Ben, Montreal shot them selves in the foot in attempting to get a franchise...would a team be well supported..yes but so were the Expos
    for a while till the losing became a tradition..The Impact are good in the USL and still help Canadian soccer...But United need to be somewhere
    else, but preferred in DC

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    From one 'capital' to another... seems to fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty_torontofc_2008 View Post
    sorry Ben, Montreal shot them selves in the foot in attempting to get a franchise...would a team be well supported..yes but so were the Expos
    for a while till the losing became a tradition..The Impact are good in the USL and still help Canadian soccer...But United need to be somewhere
    else, but preferred in DC
    Then again, how good was Seattle last season? Didn't they go 10-10-10? Imagine the possibilities with Montreal. See where money can take you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheCrowd View Post
    Then again, how good was Seattle last season? Didn't they go 10-10-10? Imagine the possibilities with Montreal. See where money can take you.

    Like i said Montreal would be supported decently,i just have too many questions on the Impacts owner? Seattle has a long history with the sounders from the NASL-USL-MLS they have a good soccer background.
    Montreal? The Manic were supported go for a while then the support
    fell off...The Impact have left the USL once for finanacial reasons,
    so i would really think twice before putting a team there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty_torontofc_2008 View Post
    Like i said Montreal would be supported decently,i just have too many questions on the Impacts owner? Seattle has a long history with the sounders from the NASL-USL-MLS they have a good soccer background.
    Montreal? The Manic were supported go for a while then the support
    fell off...The Impact have left the USL once for finanacial reasons,
    so i would really think twice before putting a team there.
    I agree that they're financially not very stable. If they could get that sorted they'd be perfect candidates for expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheCrowd View Post
    I agree that they're financially not very stable. If they could get that sorted they'd be perfect candidates for expansion.
    Its funny that Saputos name has been mentioned as a possible owner/part owner of the Canadians hockey team? He can find that
    extra cash when he really wants to

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty_torontofc_2008 View Post
    Its funny that Saputos name has been mentioned as a possible owner/part owner of the Canadians hockey team? He can find that
    extra cash when he really wants to
    Once again footy gets stepped upon by ice hockey. It hurts living in North America.

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    Uh-huh....Garber's looking at moving the team the same way the expansion fee for the most recent round was $40 million and no less.

    Please let me play poker with this guy just once...

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    moving them to montreal would make up for the loss of the expos to D.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender View Post
    moving them to montreal would make up for the loss of the expos to D.C.
    LOL!

    I never thought of that!

    But seriously...DC has a loyal, dedicated fanbase. DC has been a successful franchise. The fact that they can't get this resolved is very unfortunate.

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    Well I hope Garber stays true to his word. SSS are key to a successful league. He has said it many times over himself. If DC can't get a deal done, then sorry folks, fans or not, it's time to move somewhere that will embrace it.

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    ^ What?! Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. You're saying that basically regardless of how many people are coming in through the gates, it doesn't count because it's not a SSS.

    If a team can survive and thrive without the need for a dedicated facility, nobody is gonna force them to move. An SSS is a nice thing to have, but it's never been mandatory and in the case of DCU, I don't see the lack of one being an issue at all as long as people are attending the games in relatively high numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcleaner View Post
    ^ What?! Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. You're saying that basically regardless of how many people are coming in through the gates, it doesn't count because it's not a SSS.

    If a team can survive and thrive without the need for a dedicated facility, nobody is gonna force them to move. An SSS is a nice thing to have, but it's never been mandatory and in the case of DCU, I don't see the lack of one being an issue at all as long as people are attending the games in relatively high numbers.
    They still losing money with an average attendance of 20K and have been the biggest drain on MLS. The league and all the owners have been subsiding DCU for 15 years. Garber is rightly stating that this will not continue. Plus RFK is falling apart. I say we bring on St. Louis United

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    I dont want DC United to move ... theyre the most successful team in this league with very passionate fans.

    Their ownership "gets" soccer and so do their fans.

    I'd rather have a stadium built in some obscure suburb of D.C. (provided that public transit makes it easy to get there) than to have them removed from the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troy1982 View Post
    They still losing money with an average attendance of 20K and have been the biggest drain on MLS. The league and all the owners have been subsiding DCU for 15 years. Garber is rightly stating that this will not continue. Plus RFK is falling apart. I say we bring on St. Louis United
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcleaner View Post
    ^ What?! Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. You're saying that basically regardless of how many people are coming in through the gates, it doesn't count because it's not a SSS.

    If a team can survive and thrive without the need for a dedicated facility, nobody is gonna force them to move. An SSS is a nice thing to have, but it's never been mandatory and in the case of DCU, I don't see the lack of one being an issue at all as long as people are attending the games in relatively high numbers.
    Yes, DC are thriving right now in this economic format that the MLS has setup. But what happens when the league grows - i.e bigger cap, bigger TV deals, etc.

    DC are paying operating costs of the stadium that holds twice as many people as they draw. They don't run the building so I'm sure they don't control the revenue stream there. Are they the primary tenant of the building? Does the MLS schedule revolve around them or does it revolve around the dates available to them at the stadium?
    Who controls security at the building? them or the DC gaming commish??

    SSS bring alot more than just atmosphere to a game. In the end, it's a business and having a SSS makes the most business sense IMO.

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    I have read as well that DC is losing millions/year because of RFK. They have huge rent and control nothing. Garber I am sure is just putting pressure on local governments to get something done. He is doing the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottawa MLS Fan View Post
    they would be welcome in Ottawa
    And they would move to a city with no stadium because....

 

 

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