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    Post Today’s News, Wednesday , Apr.08

    No TFC news for now,if you find some post it there.




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    Great love does not exist without joy and without great suffering ,that's why One club is worth only as much as its fans !


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    Not your average pro

    FC 'keeper Sutton isn't tempted by the overseas money; his priority begins and ends with family

    Greg Sutton balked at Germany and he never has made it to England's premier league. Instead he found a wife, their seven-month old daughter, Maya, and a home in Major League Soccer.
    In life, this is what is called a fair trade.
    "If you had asked me 10 years ago where I would end up I'm not sure what I would have said -- probably not Toronto," says Sutton, who has taken a twisted path to find happiness.
    "Sometimes I do think about what might have happened if I'd signed in Germany. I think everyone wonders how life would be if they'd done certain things. But I have no regrets. If I had done that who knows if I would have met my wife. Would I still have my wonderful baby daughter? Some guys are always trying to go overseas because of the monetary values. For me, that's never been a persuasive argument. I was comfortable here," says Sutton, who has hung up his shingle in Chicago, Montreal and Toronto.


    READ MORE
    http://www.torontosun.com/sports/col...48131-sun.html
    Last edited by MG42; 04-08-2009 at 06:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MG42 View Post

    OMG WTF?!?!?!?!?!?! Sutton is a traitor like JDG and Hargreaves?!?!?!? Whatever shall I do?

    He grew up more American than Canuck. It wasn't until he got to college that his coach Mike Toshack informed him he was eligible for Canada's national program even though he'd grown up in Bethel, Connecticut.
    Oh... right, it's ok, because he plays for Canada and not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaughno View Post
    OMG WTF?!?!?!?!?!?! Sutton is a traitor like JDG and Hargreaves?!?!?!? Whatever shall I do?



    Oh... right, it's ok, because he plays for Canada and not the other way around.

    Do you really want to start up that argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaughno View Post
    OMG WTF?!?!?!?!?!?! Sutton is a traitor like JDG and Hargreaves?!?!?!? Whatever shall I do?



    Oh... right, it's ok, because he plays for Canada and not the other way around.

    Did you stop reading after that?

    "The story starts in Hamilton where he was born..."

    Next time you make me agree with Roogsy I'm throwing a beer at you.

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    So no Tuesday speculation About Dallas ??

    Shame still the stocks are open and I am sure the media will find someone to lock in and flog.




    Game 4 bitches. Bring your voices!!!
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    Maurice Edu has told Rangers he's eager to step into the boots of bad boy Barry Ferguson.
    The American midfielder insists he's now ready to shine as he prepares to start tonight's SPL crunch clash at St Mirren. Edu, 22, has started just five games for the Light Blues since his £2.5million transfer from FC Toronto in August.
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-21262585/
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    What is it about European papers that always get TFC's name wrong? It's almost like they're doing it on purpose or something as a backhanded way of showing contempt for MLS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Strike View Post
    What is it about European papers that always get TFC's name wrong? It's almost like they're doing it on purpose or something as a backhanded way of showing contempt for MLS.
    It's not contempt. They just don't know. I'll take FC Toronto over "FC" as certain talking heads on The Fan continue to utilize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Strike View Post
    What is it about European papers that always get TFC's name wrong? It's almost like they're doing it on purpose or something as a backhanded way of showing contempt for MLS.
    Meh... MLS can't even get it right on the cover of their own publications!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy Unikronik View Post
    Meh... MLS can't even get it right on the cover of their own publications!
    Someone should change that WIN sticker to Epic Fail.

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    mornin all
    wow 2016 and things are looking up --- come on you reds lets go

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    From "24" (the subway paper, not the Jack Bauer Power Hour)

    TFC regressing, not progressing

    Three games into the season, and there is no figuring out Toronto FC.
    The team was dominant in its opening win over Kansas City. But the Wizards, at least at the moment, are a bad team— not a solid measuring stick at all. Then, the Reds got a draw in Columbus against the league champs. But consider that tie came only when Crew defender Gino Padula scored on his own goal. Then, in game three, against the undefeated Seattle Sounders FC, TFC was totally dominated, and coach John Carver was thoroughly disgusted.
    There’s an uncomfortable pattern here. The team, instead of getting better each and every game, is getting worse.
    And that needs to improve when it faces FC Dallas at home this weekend. The Hoops are off to a miserable 0-3 start, and TFC needs to stop their slide.
    After Saturday’s loss, Carver admitted there wasn’t one player amongst his 11 starters or substitutes who deserved praise. Not one. So, will there be changes this weekend?
    “I haven’t got that many players, have I?” Carver said, making reference that the new smaller roster sizes imposed by the league this season make it harder to make wholesale changes to a starting 11.
    “I can only give them so many chances, so many opportunities.”
    So, since Carver can’t change the whole side, he has to pick his spots. Two likely candidates for withdrawal: midfielder Rohan Ricketts and striker Chad Barrett. Ricketts has been a liability on the wing for three straight games, giving the ball away cheaply time after time. And Barrett, after finally getting the chance to be the top striker on an MLS side, is spurning the opportunity. His touch has been heavy, and chances have gone wanting. Even in the win over Kansas City, Barrett was ineffective close to goal.
    Despite the team’s so-so 1-1-1 record, the strikers have yet to score. And that’s a sign that it’s soon time to shake things up,
    Carver has continually deflected the hoopla and hype that’s been around TFC since the club signed midfielder DwayneDe Rosario. He still won’t say that this is a playoff team. This week, as TFC prepares to redeem itself at home, he’s talking about baby steps, not post-season aspirations.
    “There’s still an awful lot of work to be done.”
    Funny, over in Seattle, which has nine points in three games, there’s no talk of baby steps.
    “At the start of the season we said that the goal for this team was to make the playoffs,” said coach Sigi Schmid. “And that hasn’t changed.”

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    When good fans go bad

    Jays, TFC supporters
    Joe O'Connor, National Post

    On Saturday afternoon, at BMO Field, the projectiles of choice were plastic beer cups and red paper streamers. They flew from within a seething mass of Toronto FC supporters toward the Seattle Sounders players. Two days later it was a different sport, a different venue and different objects. Two baseballs, a golf ball and paper airlines were sent to the turf during the Toronto Blue Jays' home opener against the Detroit Tigers at Rogers Centre.
    "I've never had anything thrown at me before," Tigers left fielder Josh Anderson said after the Jays' 12-5 win in a game that featured a nine-minute delay when the Tigers left the field and the umpires tried to restore order. "I understand that sometimes at a ball game people can get out of control. But to be throwing a baseball at somebody, well, what's the intention there?"
    Fans in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia have been known to hurl batteries at opposing players. In Cleveland, a Browns crowd angered by a call during an NFL game in 2001 littered the field with plastic beer bottles, chasing the players to the locker rooms. Golf balls were tossed at the Expos' final game in Montreal, and Canadiens fans rioted when Maurice Richard was suspended for attacking an official in 1955.
    In Toronto, order has usually prevailed. But the recent behaviour of baseball and soccer fans begs the question, has Toronto the Good gone bad?
    "Well, I don't think so," said Paul Beeston, the Jays interim president and CEO. "You have 48-49,000 people in the stadium, and you have a few that were maybe a little over-served -- and I am not sure of that --but their behaviour sullies what was normally a well-behaved crowd. You don't see that sort of thing at the Leafs, or at the Raptors."
    Unruly stadium crowds have been around as long stadiums. The most famous arena of all is the Roman Coliseum. The Roman Emperor of the day often sponsored the gladiator games, and was expected to be in attendance to watch the show.
    "The people would use these occasions to express their view on how things were going," says Christer Bruun, a classics professor at the University of Toronto. "When you have 50,000 people -- or even more -- the Imperial Guard just couldn't do very much about it if, from somewhere up in the stands, there rolled up a chant of, 'Where is our bread.'"
    The grand sporting spectacles of ancient Rome, with their political undertones, featured fights to the death between a gladiator and a lion, tiger, bear or another gladiator. The blood sport has given way to an American national pastime where the participants are paid handsomely, and the ticket-buying people chant for their heroes, boo the bad guys and occasionally have too much to drink.
    On a long ago Opening Day at Exhibition Stadium, a drunken fan in the left-field bleachers fired an empty beer bottle onto the turf. It came to rest near Toronto slugger George Bell.
    The newspaper accounts of the game mentioned the bottle toss at Bell, who had been feuding with Toronto management throughout the spring over the club's desire to move its weak-armed left-fielder into the designated hitter's role.
    But while security converged in the stands, Bell had never been the target. I know this because I know the guilty party. He is still a baseball fan, a father, a teacher, and a homeopathic healer. "I wasn't throwing the bottle at Bell," the guilty party said yesterday. "I was just being a drunken yahoo."
    And 20 years later, there are still drunken yahoos on Opening Day, tarnishing Toronto's reputation as the polite sports town.
    "I would like to think we won't have any more examples of what happened on Monday again this year," Beeston said. "We are not a city -- and I don't want to pick on Philadelphia-- but we are not a city where they boo Santa Claus."

    http://http://www.nationalpost.com/s...tml?id=1475482

    Gotta love it when the Post talks up the "unruly" Jays and TFC fans but only goes to the Jays for comment.

    It is exactly crap like this that builds upon from the irresponsible "journalism" of people like Cathal Kelley and Gareth Wheeler. After a while the "hooligan" moniker is just simply going to be believed as a simple fact by the populace because they are hearing it so often. No matter that it is wrong. If people hear the "big lie" enough they end up believing it.
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    red paper streamers? OH NO!!!!
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    9:30AM This Morning...


    OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - April 7, 2009) - Eugene Melnyk, owner of Senators Sports & Entertainment, will hold a media availability on Wednesday, April 8, at 9:30 a.m. at Scotiabank Place in the Club 101 room. In the first part of the media opportunity, Melnyk will be joined by the hockey club's general manager, Bryan Murray, to review the 2008-09 National Hockey League season and to discuss the outlook for 2009-10. Cyril Leeder, chief operating officer for Senators Sports & Entertainment, will then join Melnyk to discuss issues surrounding the proposals for a stadium, adjacent to Scotiabank Place, and a Major League Soccer expansion franchise. Media are asked to enter Scotiabank Place thru Gate 3, as usual, and will be directed to Club 101 behind the Senators home goal.

    http://www.mls-rumors.net/2009/04/ex...melnyk-to.html

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    Jesus, guys, there's nothing wrong with that article. If you're really that concerned about your image to the public maybe you should go into politics or PR. If you took a few seconds you could probably figure out why there's Jays quotes in there and no TFC quotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Julio View Post
    Jesus, guys, there's nothing wrong with that article. If you're really that concerned about your image to the public maybe you should go into politics or PR. If you took a few seconds you could probably figure out why there's Jays quotes in there and no TFC quotes.
    At the very least he doesn't use TFC fans alone but rather in a group of examples that points to more unruly fan behaviour finding it's way into stadiums everywhere.

    At least that is fair. Nobody is saying stuff doesn't happen at BMO. My biggest problem with Wheeler and Kelly was that they made it sound like a) it was TFC specific b) didn't call out other fans in other sports c) the articles were factually incorrect in several aspects and d) they were inflammatory and exaggerated, probably because neither douchebags were at Columbus or sit in the south stands.

    This one at least doesn't attempt to chastise or blame TFC fans but rather is talking in general terms. I have no problems with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    This one at least doesn't attempt to chastise or blame TFC fans but rather is talking in general terms. I have no problems with that.
    Also, he puts it into the context of broader sports crowd problems rather than claiming that the RPB and U-Sector are hooligan "firms."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Also, he puts it into the context of broader sports crowd problems rather than claiming that the RPB and U-Sector are hooligan "firms."
    The whole "firm" thing was probably one of the most annoying factors. The very fact that they used this term to describe Toronto supporters shows they don't know what they are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    The whole "firm" thing was probably one of the most annoying factors. The very fact that they used this term to describe Toronto supporters shows they don't know what they are talking about.
    I think the fact that one of our SG's calls themselves "the Firm" and has a big banner saying that might have something to do with it.

    If they start comparing us to moped throwing Italian style Ultras, then we'll know where that came from as well.

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    Does the SSG look suspiciously like Zach Morris with longer hair to anyone else?

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    Hooligan!

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    Toronto Star prints correction:

    http://www.thestar.com/Corrections/article/615421

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigfynn View Post
    While it is good that the Star has recognized that their idiot reporter said this, lets see an article in the sports section that includes this correction so that the general public gets to read it.

    Corrections are usually buried and missed by the majority of readers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_D View Post
    While it is good that the Star has recognized that their idiot reporter said this, lets see an article in the sports section that includes this correction so that the general public gets to read it.

    Corrections are usually buried and missed by the majority of readers.
    right...I'm sure the correction is not above the fold on page A1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_D View Post
    While it is good that the Star has recognized that their idiot reporter said this, lets see an article in the sports section that includes this correction so that the general public gets to read it.

    Corrections are usually buried and missed by the majority of readers.
    Very true. I'm assuming that editors don't like to post corrections, since it shows that they ultimately screwed up. What the correction does however, is

    1. Let the supporters know that they ARE heard when they raise an issue with the media

    2. Hopefully put Cathal's bosses on notice - maybe they will pay a little more attention to his crap before its published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigfynn View Post
    The ironic part is that they are talking about the KKKrew incident. But can you imagine how stupid they'd look it they printed it was the Crew fans who racially abused a player?!

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    I'm going to saturdays game so i want lots of noise!!!

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    FC DALLAS HAVE NO POINTS!!

    HELLO!!!!!

    NONE! ZERO! ZIP!


    Can TFC Toast these minnows of MLS?

    seriously, if thehy get anything from BMO field. . . .

    POW right in the kisser!
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