Hes in the shit in Glasgow and apparantley 3 Australian teams looking at him for the summer....DP material.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...rs/7986956.stm
Barry Ferguson anybody...??
Hes in the shit in Glasgow and apparantley 3 Australian teams looking at him for the summer....DP material.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...rs/7986956.stm
problem for me is that he isn't enough of an upgrade in the middle to pay him DP money AND get rid of one of our big players (guevara would probably be odd man out)
ok yes I am a die hard celtic fan and so hate the Rangers, but that has nothing to do with why I wouldn't want him. As much as it pains me to say, he actually used to be a great solid player, but over the last few seasons he has gone way down hill. I have even heard from a number of Ranger fans they are happy he is suspended for 2 weeks as they have been playing better when he had been injured then when he was in the squad. I don't think bazza would be an improvement
no offense to the original poster, but why would we want a player who's shit anywhere?
Has been discussed in a number of threads already but to summerize...
NO!
His skills are rapidly evaporating. Many in Govan are glad to see him go. He's an old 31 and has bad ankles...the turf here would be murder on them.
For the money we could get much more...Rangers are hopeful that the guy we sold them will replace him...enough said.
“We changed the entire league’s opinion of the viability of soccer in North America. And then we blew it because we chickened out." —Tim Leiweke
It amazes me to think that still some people believe Ferguson isn't good enough for TFC even after what they seen on Saturday? Ferguson has had a tough time with Rangers but he was coming back on to a game and at his best he is better than any in the TFC midfield. Apparently Dick Advocatt fancies him for Zenit and they are just a tad better than TFC. One of the reasons Rangers are looking to get rid of him is they are big time in debt and he is one of if not the biggest earner, Rangers are in bad shape at the minute, you have got to love it. Ferguson is still a good footballer who could well handle MLS standards and he would be an excellent captain for an MLS team due to his experience and his ability to provide leadership on the pitch and this is coming from a Celtic fan. One thing Toronto FC definitely lacks is leadership, I would love TFC to sign Ferguson but I would be amazed if that ever happened.
Yeah he will go to Europe before he comes here.
Barry is done.Originally Posted by torontocelt
In his day he was a very good football player and more importantly a great servant to Rangers but its passed him. I watch Rangers every week and he just isn't the player he was. Injury after injury have taken their toll...and his attitude has hampered his ability to be truly marketable. He got homesick playing in Blackburn...a car drive away. How's he going to handle Russia or Australia or North America?
This Scotland incident is a get out of jail card for Walter Smith. He now see's what Le Guen saw two years ago. The only downside for Rangers is both he and McGregor's stock is falling quicker than the TSE!
Rumours are neither will ever wear the Light Blue again...this guy was a God in Govan and it sounds like he's being tossed to the side of the road...Sir Minty and Walter know.
“We changed the entire league’s opinion of the viability of soccer in North America. And then we blew it because we chickened out." —Tim Leiweke
I'm not saying Ferguson is the god of all football but he is good enough for TFC and he has played 135 games for Rangers since 2005 according to wiki so that is still more than 25 games a season, that isn't bad.
and he would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better that RR. Maybe slide Dero out to the right??
Stop the insanity already! He's a self centred twat who the last time I checked didn't play in the middle of the back four....would be a waste of money. With our rug he'd be lucky to play half the matches. Spend the money somewhere else.
Agreed I would rather spend the money on the defence but I am just saying that Ferguson is definitely good enough to play for TFC, I don't see how that can be disputed considering the calibre of some players who currently play for the team. With regards to the injury problems, in season 2007/2008 which ended only last May Ferguson had played in 61 games for Rangers including 18 European games, that is a whole lot of games for someone to play so I think that the injury worries are not as bad as some people seem to think? If by some miracle TFC managed to get enough money to not only pay a transfer fee for him but also pay his wages then I reckon he would do the team a lot of good.
You're missing the fact that for a big chunk of that season he was having to take painkiller injections to get through each game.
He's had operations on both ankles and one of his knees. He's nowhere near the player he used to be, no doubt due to his insistance on trying to play through injuries which has now caught up with him.
He may well do alright if he was playing in the MLS, but how long would he last? To be honest, if it does turn out that his Rangers career is over then I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if he decided to retire.
Edu, scored for Rangers today
The equivalent of my 3 year old daughter scoring at Timbits Indoor Soccer.
Given that it was St Mirren in all.
AGREED....
FERGUSON WHO..???
WHO THE FUCK CARES
WE'VE GOT EDU......
Not good enough
he would not be any sort of upgrade on what we already have.
Interesting stuff.........I actually think his form is suffering due to the youngsters Rangers have. I think he is an ideal MLS player but each to their own. Sometimes a guy needs achange of scenery to revitalize himself.
The SPL is a much better league than MLS, Ferguson being one of the better players. His recent poor run of form acknowleged. But, I don't think you even know what your talking about.
Seriously I like TFC but comments like that are just nuts. Do you really think TFC are significantly better or even just better than St Mirren, I don't? TFC are a new club but they have finished last and second last in their MLS group the past two seasons. After what I seen on Saturday St Mirren would give TFC a game.
You can feel free to make fun of me as I am still trying to learn the lingo but what is a Dp and what do they do for a team?
start the mocking.....now!
The Designated Player Rule, nicknamed the Beckham Rule, was adopted as part of the salary cap regulations of Major League Soccer for the 2007 season. The rule allows each MLS franchise to sign one player that would be considered outside of the teams' salary cap, allowing U.S. and Canadian teams to compete for star players in the international soccer market.
The salary cap was estimated to be around US$1.9 million in 2006[1], was $2.1 million in 2007 and was raised to $2.3 million for the 2008 season.[2][3]
Under the rule:
- For each designated player, $415,000[3][4] of his salary is charged to the salary cap, with any remaining salary toward the player being imposed on the individual owner, and not counted against the cap. The cap hit was increased for the 2009 season from $400,000 the previous two seasons.
- Prior to the 2007 season, there were four players whose salary exceeded $400,000. These players include Landon Donovan, Carlos Ruiz and Eddie Johnson. According to the rule, they were grandfathered in for the 2007 season. The exemption was extended after the season, with the league planning to review the issue at a future date, possibly requiring the players contracts to be renegotiated or to be considered a designated player. Prior to the start of the 2008 MLS season, Johnson moved to Fulham of the Premier League[1]. After Dwayne DeResario was signed by Toronto FC in January 2009, Ruiz was released by the club causing him to leave MLS to play for Olimpia Asunción. Donovan is the lone player whose 2009 salary remains grandfathered under the exemption provision. However, there are several more players whose guaranteed salary exceed the DP amount, but whose salary cap expense is actually lower than their true salary thanks to the allocation rule. These players include Shalrie Joseph ($450,000), Christian Gomez ($430,000), DeResario ($425,750) and Taylor Twellman ($420,000).
- There will initially be one designated player slot available to each team in the league. A team can trade their designated player slot; teams are allowed a maximum of two slots.
- Only $335,000[3] of a team's second designated player will count against the salary cap, an increase from $325,000 in 2008.
Having watched the SPL for three years now, I think you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. It's an apples and oranges comparison, firstly, in style of play. Then beyond Celtic and Rangers, and occasionally Motherwell or Aberdeen, that league is absolutely no better than MLS. More disciplined and mature in its playing style, maybe, but with poorer, slower athletes in general.The SPL is a much better league than MLS, Ferguson being one of the better players. His recent poor run of form acknowleged. But, I don't think you even know what your talking about.
And MLS's history is rife with guys who had long and succesful years in Scotland but were mediocre at best over here. Some have gone the other way; Kenny Deuchar was pretty mediocre for RSL, but he's playing in the SPL now. Tam McManus played at Hibs, Dunfermline and Dundee, but stunk up the joint frequently at Colorado.
Hmm...I really like the idea of a salary cap. People should play for the love of the game first. but of course people need to make money and they should be paid their worth
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Please NO,
MO knows him very well i sure hope this does not happen .The Glasgow b*^%$#!!
I wouldn't say the SPL was better than MLS, the SPL isn't great either. Hearts and Hibs are also decent teams, Hibs in particular play some good football although Hearts have a better winning mentality. TFC would struggle against many of the SPL teams, I have not doubt in that. My original complaint was of comparing St Mirren to a timbits team, that is rubbish. As for Deuchar he was prolific in the leagues under the SPL not in the SPL so for me that comparison proves nothing. Tam McManus was at the end of his career and had dropped down many levels of team when he signed for the MLS, you cannot really use him as a comparison of how good the SPL is when he was never really that good anyway. Also for what it is worth I would rather have a guy that can play football than an athlete in my team, watch Smith at TFC, he doesn't have a clue.
Not with a barge pole, he's a self centered yob, who's let his team & nations down. Rangwer pervious Mgr Le Guen lost a power struggle with him.
The decent man that is Walter Smith Jettisoned this cancer as quick as he could. No thanks, he's past his sell by date anyway
He has a rep as a disruptive influence for club and country, most notably stated by former Rangers (and current PSG) manager Paul Le Guen. I don't know if he'd be the right guy.
Good point about his disposition. And he's definitely on the way down career wise.
Not as technically talented as Amando but would definitely offer more spine in the middle of the park... until someone kicked his glass ankle.
Anyway, its a non issue. He won't come, we couldn't afford him, and we probably wouldn't want him.
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