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    Default Ljungberg on TFC Fans..."They're Not Arseholes"

    From Jeff Blair's baseball column, you have to scroll down a bit....

    http://sports.theglobeandmail.com/se...sBaseball/home

    Blair doesn't think much of Vitti, so far
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    How dare he, now I'm really offended

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    "You're better than Beckham, STAY!"

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    "When I came off the pitch, some of them [fans] were yelling 'You're better than Beckham! Stay!' They were not — how do you say? — arseholes there."
    i guess he didn't hear what i was yelling at him.
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    If you're a pro player, you need to accept that it comes with the job.
    We heckled him, and he scored. That's what a DP striker should do.
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    I think he'll also come to appreciate playing somewhere like Toronto where there's a sold out and enthusiastic crowd. Right now, he's only seen Seattle and Toronto. Wait until he's gone round the league once on a road trip and he'll probably like Toronto even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee dubya View Post
    Wait until he's gone round the league once on a road trip and he'll probably like Toronto even more.

    hahahah


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    Quote Originally Posted by bee dubya View Post
    I think he'll also come to appreciate playing somewhere like Toronto where there's a sold out and enthusiastic crowd. Right now, he's only seen Seattle and Toronto. Wait until he's gone round the league once on a road trip and he'll probably like Toronto even more.
    He'll really appreciate it, if we bend over for him like that every time he comes, any half decent sweeper would've read that 1st goal

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    Really? I'm sure the second half gave him a glimpse of what it's like in a somewhat empty stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc"2L" View Post
    Really? I'm sure the second half gave him a glimpse of what it's like in a somewhat empty stadium.
    you mean, an empty baseball stadium.
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    I met Ljungberg at Muzik Nightclub on Saturday nite in the VIP. Seemed like a pretty solid cat. Chatted about his Gunner days. He said he loved the atmosphere at BMO and hopes that our passion rubs off on the rest of the league.

    I'm sure he's been told about the rest of the stadiums that he'll be visiting!

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    Hey! I don't resemble that remark.

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    What I want to know is, who besides Freddy has used the word "arsehole" since WW2?

    Guy must watch a lot of Jimmy Cagney movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    What I want to know is, who besides Freddy has used the word "arsehole" since WW2?
    me and about 60 million others I can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    What I want to know is, who besides Freddy has used the word "arsehole" since WW2?

    Guy must watch a lot of Jimmy Cagney movies.
    Everyone in england, where it is commonplace. They don't use "asshole" there, they use "arsehole."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Everyone in england, where it is commonplace. They don't use "asshole" there, they use "arsehole."
    OK I stand corrected. No offence intended. Sounded old fashioned to me.
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    Jeff Blair:

    Sorry, but it looked suspiciously like wheat from chaff stuff at BMO Field on Saturday. Until evidence presents itself, I'm going to continue to suspect Pablo Vitti brings all the negatives you find in a third-tier South American player. And TFC needs to do better at centre-half. I want somebody with a bit of command. But know this: The Sounders are a welcomed addition to Major League Soccer and so is Freddie Ljungberg, who scored the Sounders' first goal and provided what few minutes of quality there was on the pitch. "I thought the atmosphere was great," said Ljungberg, the Swedish international who has played at Arsenal and who said he didn't mind the odd beer shower. "When I came off the pitch, some of them [fans] were yelling 'You're better than Beckham! Stay!' They were not — how do you say? — arseholes there."

    I gotta say, when I heard Freddie was coming as a DP , I laughed. But he really put on a show Saturday and looked the Ljungberg of old. The way he dragged Serioux around the park was a real treat to watch. I can't honestly remember seeing a forward in this league having a CB in his back pocket like that. Serioux covered a lot of ground, mostly chasing a shadow…the way Freddie blew by him on that first goal…brilliant.

    Hope Serioux learned something…

    And to the clown who threw the beer at Freddie, your a classless prick! I hope you got done…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto_Bhoy View Post
    the way Freddie blew by him on that first goal…brilliant.

    Hope Serioux learned something…
    You're kidding, right? It was a basic one-touch give and go, and Serioux LET HIM GO, he didn't even try to cover him. It was a monumental defensive fuck up, not some piece of brilliance. Christ, high school defenders are taught to pick up their man on a give and go.

    There's no doubting how well he played, but given the almost identical team-versus-team statistics, it's fairly obvious this game was at least as much about TFC playing like garbage as Seattle playing well. In fact, I'd say they were competent and professional, but nothing spectacular at all.

    We just sucked. Horribly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    You're kidding, right? It was a basic one-touch give and go, and Serioux LET HIM GO, he didn't even try to cover him. It was a monumental defensive fuck up, not some piece of brilliance. Christ, high school defenders are taught to pick up their man on a give and go.

    There's no doubting how well he played, but given the almost identical team-versus-team statistics, it's fairly obvious this game was at least as much about TFC playing like garbage as Seattle playing well. In fact, I'd say they were competent and professional, but nothing spectacular at all.

    We just sucked. Horribly.
    Yup. Adrian bit. He stopped moving on the first pass and was ten feet behind on the return.

    Harmse almost got his foot on the pass (to my eye) but the fault was all Adrian's. Adrian will be ok but that play reminded me of something Julius James would have done.

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    "I thought the atmosphere was great," said Ljungberg, the Swedish international who has played at Arsenal and who said he didn't mind the odd beer shower. "When I came off the pitch, some of them [fans] were yelling 'You're better than Beckham! Stay!' They were not — how do you say? — arseholes there." …

    *Sniff* an athlete who gets the beer shower.

    really, isnt throwing a $12 beer at someone the ultimate form of respect... I am so mad at you, I will shower you with liquid gold... ;P

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    hmm, wonder if Bill Archer et al have read this particular interview??????
    I thought the guy was absolute class on Saturday, both in play and attitude.

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    I hope he remains healthy and has a long stay in MLS. We need more young(er) stars like him coming over while they still have something left in the tank.

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    ^ he had surgery at the end of his career, he doesnt have much left in the tank. (but has plenty for this league)

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    Wouldn't "We're Not Arseholes" make for a great banner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CretanBull View Post
    Wouldn't "We're Not Arseholes" make for a great banner?
    Nyuk nyuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by CretanBull View Post
    Wouldn't "We're Not Arseholes" make for a great banner?
    Yes, yet another banner that will give those delicate ladies in Columbus the vapors.

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    We didn’t just suck, jloome…we were picked apart.

    And I didn't say it was brilliance…I said it was brilliant.

    If you watch the game (again) you'll see Freddie did it five or six times against Serioux. He was totally clueless! Half the time he doesn’t even realize where he is on the pitch!

    Your thread “Tactical Consistency” is what it’s all about…and Sigi knows it! Its not just your own set up…it’s who your setting it up against.

    As I stated here after watching Seattle in their first two games, Sigi has built THIS team for THIS league. He has now “carved up” three back lines and even Saturday without his top goal scorer it didn’t matter because their movement off the ball was absolutely…brill…errrr…magic! Quick give and go passes, two touch turns, passing into space not feet and almost everything on the deck…right from the opening whistle. He played to TFC's weakness and to the conditions. Serioux chased Freddie's shadow until he went off. When I watched the game the second time I didn’t even look at TFC. In the first two games Seattle has left CD's standing exactly like Adrian was on Saturday…that’s not a mistake.

    Sigi gets it, this team is for real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto_Bhoy View Post
    We didn’t just suck, jloome…we were picked apart.

    And I didn't say it was brilliance…I said it was brilliant.

    If you watch the game (again) you'll see Freddie did it five or six times against Serioux. He was totally clueless! Half the time he doesn’t even realize where he is on the pitch!

    Your thread “Tactical Consistency” is what it’s all about…and Sigi knows it! Its not just your own set up…it’s who your setting it up against.

    As I stated here after watching Seattle in their first two games, Sigi has built THIS team for THIS league. He has now “carved up” three back lines and even Saturday without his top goal scorer it didn’t matter because their movement off the ball was absolutely…brill…errrr…magic! Quick give and go passes, two touch turns, passing into space not feet and almost everything on the deck…right from the opening whistle. He played to TFC's weakness and to the conditions. Serioux chased Freddie's shadow until he went off. When I watched the game the second time I didn’t even look at TFC. In the first two games Seattle has left CD's standing exactly like Adrian was on Saturday…that’s not a mistake.

    Sigi gets it, this team is for real.
    Again, as much as i agree that they're a good team and Schmidt a good coach, the stats don't bare out that they've "carved up" their opponents.

    What they've done is display the kind of tactical consistency, effort and drive that EVERY professional team at this level should show. The point on Serioux is important: a mistake like that at League One level or above in England and you might never see the field as a started again.

    But in MLS, it's par for the course for two-thirds of the league to not meet those basic tests.

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    Again, as much as i agree that they're a good team and Schmidt a good coach, the stats don't bare out that they've "carved up" their opponents.

    Just to close the loop on this, I never said anything about the "stats", I was speaking about their performances and the tactics employed in the three games I witnessed that the Sounders have played thus far. They shredded the Red Bull back line and should have won by 5 or 6. Same with Real Salt Lake. Your right the "stats" don't bare out the carving they have given their first three opponents those stats/results should be double!

    IMO, your entitled to yours...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Again, as much as i agree that they're a good team and Schmidt a good coach, the stats don't bare out that they've "carved up" their opponents.

    What they've done is display the kind of tactical consistency, effort and drive that EVERY professional team at this level should show. The point on Serioux is important: a mistake like that at League One level or above in England and you might never see the field as a started again.

    But in MLS, it's par for the course for two-thirds of the league to not meet those basic tests.
    This whole post is key. Sigi is the reason this team is playing so well. He took a very average Columbus side and did the same thing. He got them playing very simple, basic football and it worked. Seattle look to be doing the same.

 

 

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