I drove by BMO quickly eastbound today along the southside, and it still looks very much in the in the excavation process. I didn't really notice any concrete being poured/concrete cylinders/etc.
Yes... They will finanlly get it
No.... They will screw this up royally
hmmm... not sure? how much money will they make from this?
I drove by BMO quickly eastbound today along the southside, and it still looks very much in the in the excavation process. I didn't really notice any concrete being poured/concrete cylinders/etc.
I rented it twice. It's mine?Originally Posted by mook-life
If you guys want to troll each other do it in pm's. The rest of us have a topic we want to stick to.
It's about the stadium.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
I recall seeing a pump-crete truck there a few weeks back so i believe the concrete foundation is poured. I'm going to try and swing by and take pictures after 5:00 if possible.
100 accounts from 104 to 110 have been expropriated. Top half of 110 may no longer be a supporters section. The great atmosphere that was the top of 110 will probably be gone. That sucks worse than the product on the field the last 8 years
Thanks Flint!
I got the call this afternoon about this from my ticket rep. I'm in upper 111 so it's affected as well. They will call me back before the standard relocation (which sounds like it will be done online this year) with my seating options, but will want a deposit at that point.
The rep's answers to my questions didn't instil too much confidence in this process though.....I'm just waiting for the call back and preparing to be told that they don't have any light grey or yellow supporters seasons for me......guess I'm just used to being jaded so this is what I'm prepping for. I hope I'm wrong.
I did not get anything from my ticket rep yet about relocation I'm in 114 so
The City want the Argos at BMO, MLSE wants a partnership, Argos want to be there.
Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!
That's not true anymore based on today's article on the Star. City already did their part, Argos now have to do their part.
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Lol ya I'd say so
I really hope the mlse is not dumb enough to let them aka the argos ruin the atmosphere and homely feeling I get when I go to bmo, its ours I want everything red and I hope it can be ours and ours alone.... and the grass please don't forget about the grass
I guess he's right.... ill save my shit talk for another convo
TL did the deal for the Argos to practice at Downsview, they MLSE can sell this project with more involved ie the Argos, it is simply a no brainier.
Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!
That doesn't mean anything! Renting out space to make money is one thing, but partnering up with Argos is another thing which MLSE isn't interested in. It's common knowledge now that MLSE has no intention to get involved with Argos.
Right now, Argos are trying to get into BMO field but don't have money and lease agreement to make it happen. Given their attendance and money issues Argos are dealing with, who knows what will happen to them in 2017. They're on decline big time and close to folding if they can't find a home soon. The fact they got rid of their marketing department while their CEO & President said that hosting a playoff game will cost them money instead of make them money just shows how bad situation is over there.
At this point MLSE are aware of us that feel it's a turning away point to take away the Soccer Specific from our stadium. The only question will be if they feel it's enough of us to make a difference to them.
I for one have said many times that its what makes our place or any stadium specific to footy special and couldn't care less if the walls of the building got a pretty facelift.
No fan or supporter calls a shared ground a shrine.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
You have a source on that? I can't find that in the Star article. Not doubting you, just trying to get the whole story.
The CFL does. I wouldn't worry, just as I wouldn't worry about an 8 year old franchise that is losing money. It will be done.
Just to take this in another direction, let's assume that the Argos don't come to a lease agreement. And fold.
Is the City, and MLSE, stating anywhere in their construction plans that if an agreement is not reached within the next 4-5 months that BMO Field will permanently become a soccer specific stadium? Temporary seating will be thrown out the window. Massive concrete poured and thereby closing the door forever to CFL football including Grey Cups and a future CFL Revival (ie. The Argos II)?
I can't count how many times that Ottawa has folded and then come back so these types of things happen quite regularly in the CFL. Sort of an interesting question isn't it?
Which begs a bigger question of TFC Ownership. How long are they prepared to be renters and do their long term plans for this team include a soccer specific stadium… that they own? Or do they only foresee a future in which TFC will always be part of a multi-tennant situation?
I think the renter situation makes a lot of sense in the early years of the franchise. But with a 20 year lease on BMO, I would have hoped that they have developed soccer to the point that it could survive on its own, in its own stadium when that lease expired. With 12 years left and all this renovation on the City's building, I guess they haven't.
Last edited by Pookie; 11-08-2014 at 09:52 AM.
till, for a team that has drawn just 16,000-19,000 fans a game this season, hosting a West cross-over opponent in next week’s East Division semi-finals would have its burdens too.
“It’s a double-edged sword for us because we want to show we’re putting a competitive product on the field, but hosting the East-semi would be a significant economic challenge for us, as the host team is responsible for so many extra costs, including travel for the visiting team,” said Chris Rudge, Argos executive chairman and CEO. “For most teams, hosting a playoff game allows you to generate a big crowd and a chance to make a profit, but we face a different challenge in Toronto and have a limited marketing budget. In order to break even we would have to sell 20,000-25,000 tickets for that game.”
Source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle21489911/
The Cowboys and Jaguars did a number on the pitch at Wembley. Six days ahead of England's next European qualifier.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...s-Cowboys.html
The resources available at Wembley must surely dwarf what is on hand at BMO Field. Anyone who thinks football and soccer are a good mix in one stadium is crazy. Anyone who thinks soccer fans will go on buying tickets to watch a worse level of soccer than what we already watch is even crazier.
Yup. Keep in mind that it was two football games not 10 games played at Wembley.
If Argos move in, then except we get field turf which will be a major step back for soccer and international soccer.
Does wembley use that hybrid stuff that Arsenal and a few others use?
the stuff that Leiweke said would be fine.
Yes, they use Desso Grassmaster, supposedly the best of the best hybrid.
Yes, this is true. The biggest problem right now is probably convincing the MLSE board that MLS will continue to grow and is worth investing in. What's going on with Chivas isn't helping and seeing empty seats during playoff games doesn't help either.
But did Leiweke guarantee it would be fine?
Or convince them that you will lose hosting major soccer games (international friendlies and WCQ games). You can't charge same amount money to Argos fans like you would with major soccer games. Not only that, but you risk not signing "world class" players who don't like playing on field turf. It will make TFC job harder to keep up with rest of MLS where signing DP's is becoming more important than ever before.
Fieldturf will be kiss of death for MLSE and City of Toronto who invested a lot of money on BMO field so they can host bigger events eventually making BMO field a lost cause where it will start losing money not make money for both parties.
write it down.But did Leiweke guarantee it would be fine?
Yes, that's right. It has to be that soccer on its own is a good investment. It's very frustrating that they screwed up the investment themselves and then they're the ones who will decide on the future of the stadium. If they had built a proper team out of TFC on the foundation that was handed to them by the early support then none of this would even be a discussion now.
This is why I hope Toronto NASL team becomes a reality because it brings much needed competition in this market for soccer. MLSE will surely have to step up their game if they don't want to lose soccer money to Toronto NASL who will play in their own stadium and attract major soccer games.
That's one way they might react to competition. It's not the way the parent companies deal with it, but you never know...
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