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    I'm confident MO will fuck Chicago/Columbus and/or San Jose at every turn possible!!

    I don't want Mcbride! Let the Star Spangled Grandfather go somewhere else, I would much rather pick up the bags of cash! possibley a DP slot and maybe a draft pick!

    MONEY MONEY MONEEEY MONEY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    I would imagine that and/or a first round draft for next year and possibly one for the year after.

    Mo will do good by us.

    hmm I don't see the MLS giving up draft picks in this scenario..it would be money, besides I can't say I would be that interested in any team's draft pick after they get McBride...they will be pretty good, and if Columbus and Chicago are his preferred options, then they already have great seasons underway.

    I'd rather have money.

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    It's funny how we almost never post about Mo (Johnston) anymore and you barely read about him in the press.

    I imagine that irks him some...he'll love playing this up.

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    God damn, if we can find some way to fit McBride under the cap, and somehow convince him that Toronto would be his best option....Then I would be absolutely ecstatic!
    He would solve our problem up front, I have no doubt in my mind at all.

    If not, we will get quite the return for McBride. I expect quite the bidding war for his services; Toronto is in a very desirable position at this moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    S_D, youre thinking of discovery claims, we get McBride due to allocations which is different basically it means if a returning MLS player comes back to the MLS there is a list of teams that get to say whether or not they want to sign him. We dont have to sign him but we do have his rights and someone will have to trade for those rights.
    Nope I wasn't wrong, my wording was just plain bad . ( I agree with you btw)

    If we use the top allocation to get Mcbride, then flip him to say Chicago, (I want cash) we will then go to the bottom of the allocation list. This shouldn't ruin our chances of acquiring a DP as can use the discovery claims to ensure that we get what we want (like we have with Huckerby). As far as we know they have only used one, but there is that other guy that folks here were talking about (can't remember his name but was Amoebi or something like that?) so I would assume that another discovery has been filed for him too.

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    A three way trade: TFC-houston-chicago.

    McBride to Chicago
    DeRo to Toronto
    Pair striker(s) (like Rolfe and/or Chad Barrett + money/draft picks) to Houston

    Good deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_D View Post
    Nope I wasn't wrong, my wording was just plain bad . ( I agree with you btw)

    If we use the top allocation to get Mcbride, then flip him off and say, "go to Chicago, (I want cash)" we will then go to the bottom of the allocation list. This shouldn't ruin our chances of acquiring a DP as can use the discovery claims to ensure that we get what we want (like we have with Huckerby). As far as we know they have only used one, but there is that other guy that folks here were talking about (can't remember his name but was Amoebi or something like that?) so I would assume that another discovery has been filed for him too.
    Anyone else read it like that? haha

    But yeah, I gotta wonder if we've used our discovery claims on Ameobi or Kluivert yet, I'm still confused as to the whole discovery business...did we use them in order to get Ricketts, Robert and Tebily?

    Either way, I'm really excited at the prospects of Mo shopping around McBride

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC07 View Post
    A three way trade: TFC-houston-chicago.

    McBride to Chicago
    DeRo to Toronto
    Pair striker(s) (like Rolfe and/or Chad Barrett + money/draft picks) to Houston

    Good deal?
    Dero, Guevara and Robert all standing over a dead ball Maybe in our dreams.

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    This is definitely an unexpected and welcome surprise! Mo Johnston will bolster TFC's roster with an impact player one way or another as result of McBride's return...

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    I know it's very unrealistic, but McBride would be an amazing choice as our DP striker- he's hands down better than all the players we've been linked to this year. Sure he's old, but age is but one of many factors that dictate how good a player is, and McBride would be amazing in the MLS, especially with service from our midfield. He could still get it done in MLS for at least another two years in my opinion. If he's dead set on Chicago than nothing's going to change that, but if he's open to Toronto, Mo should fight for him to the bitter end.

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    "McBride, who is a month shy of 36...."

    - no thanks
    Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sully View Post
    "McBride, who is a month shy of 36...."

    - no thanks
    And basically saved a Premiership team from relegation against all odds, and, based on his form from the past few months, would be one of the best (if not the best) striker in MLS...get past the age and actually look at his talent and form

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC07 View Post
    A three way trade: TFC-houston-chicago.

    McBride to Chicago
    DeRo to Toronto
    Pair striker(s) (like Rolfe and/or Chad Barrett + money/draft picks) to Houston

    Good deal?
    I like it but it would be quite the shuffling job to have both Dero and a DP forward under the cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joelakeshore View Post
    I know it's very unrealistic, but McBride would be an amazing choice as our DP striker- he's hands down better than all the players we've been linked to this year. Sure he's old, but age is but one of many factors that dictate how good a player is, and McBride would be amazing in the MLS, especially with service from our midfield. He could still get it done in MLS for at least another two years in my opinion. If he's dead set on Chicago than nothing's going to change that, but if he's open to Toronto, Mo should fight for him to the bitter end.
    Gotta thoroughly disagree with this. Although he may be a better all around player than Huckerby, he's not a better goal scorer, which is what we need -- eight goals on average per season at Fulham does not scream 'finisher' to me.

    McBride is still essentially a target man, it's his team leadership and ability to hold the ball up until everyone is deep that makes him dangerous. Plus, he's generally fucking great in the air. But we already have two target forwards.

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    Hmm let's see

    Mcbride: games 07-08:...... 17 ......... goals: 4
    Huckerby: games 07-08:.......34 .......... goals: 5
    (source: soccernet)

    Let's not forget we're comparing the Championship to the premiership here! Remember the gap now is wider than ever. Sorry but on recent form there is simply no case for Huckerby being better than Mcbride

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    ...McBride would be DP worthy as a striker for a couple of years but the chances of him signing in T.O. are slim at best. I think we should all just consider this development for what it is; a substantial unforeseen windfall for TFC management. I am confident that MoJo will parlay this valuable asset into the quality striker the club desperately needs...

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    This is very complicated.
    Reading the rules for this league is like studying for an exam it gives you a headache.
    If we deal with Chicago, I prefer having Chris Rolfe he is better then Cunny and can be a good depth striker.
    If we deal with Columbus, I prefer Alejandro Moreno
    If we deal with SJ it will be nice to get Kei Kamara

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    Id put money on McBride only going to an american team and finishing in the US.
    As for San Jose, theyve got nothing we want or need (any more, we bled em dry), im sure we can come to some sort of agreement with the other two. Dont be surprised if the MLS sorta fucks us (thats why i suggested the drafts earlier as opposed to money+player type of ish).

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    BTW im feeling pretty positive about Mo bringing us a bigger and better DP striker

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    I really just want allocation money. Give us money so we can buy who we want!

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    He is a perfect striker for us.
    Id love him here...got better with age.
    As for us being in Canada and not the US....bollocks.
    It worked for Dichio, his wife wanted to come to the US (she's American)and Toronto is a great location.
    Lets try to give it a shot.....McBride for TFC!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblio2 View Post
    He is a perfect striker for us.
    Id love him here...got better with age.
    As for us being in Canada and not the US....bollocks.
    It worked for Dichio, his wife wanted to come to the US (she's American)and Toronto is a great location.
    Lets try to give it a shot.....McBride for TFC!!!!!
    He said he wants to finish in the States prob at the team where he started or the city hes from, i really dont see him changing his mind about that...

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    Thats fine. I understand that. We can make soemthing outta this...basically, my point was against those saying he was too old, crap etc....No way. Class striker.
    If he wont come to us, fine. I can live with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblio2 View Post
    Thats fine. I understand that. We can make soemthing outta this...basically, my point was against those saying he was too old, crap etc....No way. Class striker.
    If he wont come to us, fine. I can live with that.
    Fair enough!
    Faith in Mo, hes gonna get us summat good!

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    Would love to see Mo pry Rogers away from C-bus for rights to McBride since he should have been ours last year anyway. Chicago has depth but they would have to trade for a DP slot as well as providing compensation to us unless McBride is giving a huge home-town discount.

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    From MLS rules on available on their website.

    " (L.) RETURNING U.S. NATIONAL TEAM POOL PLAYERS
    In the event a U.S. National Team pool player playing abroad returns to the U.S. and there is interest from multiple MLS teams, preference will be given first to a team prepared to use an allocation. If there is more than one team prepared to use an allocation on a particular player, the current season's allocation rankings as determined by the MLS Competition Committee would be used. In the event no team is willing to use an allocation, the player will be assigned via waivers."



    Thought this might help clear some stuff up. Looks to me like TFC has to sign him to get something for him. Being first in line to his rights based on allocation doesn't mean that you can trade for that right I don't think, unless they trade the allocation of course. Can Anyone else help clear this up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Hmm let's see

    Mcbride: games 07-08:...... 17 ......... goals: 4
    Huckerby: games 07-08:.......34 .......... goals: 5
    (source: soccernet)

    Let's not forget we're comparing the Championship to the premiership here! Remember the gap now is wider than ever. Sorry but on recent form there is simply no case for Huckerby being better than Mcbride
    Ag, Huckerby has played as an out-and-out winger since 2003, not a striker. He started as a striker but has spent most of his career outwide because he can beat people at speed. the last time he played striker for a whole season, he had six in 14.

    And that's hardly the point in the end: McBride is not a prolific scorer, just a very good player. We need a prolific scorer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    We need a prolific scorer.
    Someone like................. Pizarro

    (when he was at Bayern...scheisse bayern)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLou View Post
    From MLS rules on available on their website.

    " (L.) RETURNING U.S. NATIONAL TEAM POOL PLAYERS
    In the event a U.S. National Team pool player playing abroad returns to the U.S. and there is interest from multiple MLS teams, preference will be given first to a team prepared to use an allocation. If there is more than one team prepared to use an allocation on a particular player, the current season's allocation rankings as determined by the MLS Competition Committee would be used. In the event no team is willing to use an allocation, the player will be assigned via waivers."



    Thought this might help clear some stuff up. Looks to me like TFC has to sign him to get something for him. Being first in line to his rights based on allocation doesn't mean that you can trade for that right I don't think, unless they trade the allocation of course. Can Anyone else help clear this up?
    This is my understanding as well. We don't have his rights, just the first option to sign him or not. If Chicago or Columbus want him for sure, then it would make sense for us to use our allocation to sign him and then trade him to whichever team will give us the most for him - which you would hope would include a good striker.

 

 

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