http://web.mlsnet.com/index.jsp
Thats a lot of north pacific expansion
Too many teams in the west, will Dynamo or Colorado go to the east?
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http://web.mlsnet.com/index.jsp
Thats a lot of north pacific expansion
Too many teams in the west, will Dynamo or Colorado go to the east?
not when they add ottawa and montreal
what what?
in the butt.
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...or go to a single table format
should make for an excellent 3-way rivalry up there
I'm jealous of the close proximity between Portland, Seattle and Vancouver.
I wish Detroit had a team!
Originally Posted by flatpicker
Yeah, but: http://www.redpatchboys.ca/forums/sh...ad.php?t=10755
Sucks that WE'RE the centre of the universe, yet they'll have two rivals within a 5 hour drive
^ well... I never actually thought Detroit would be suitable... I just wish there was a team closer to us!!!
Site's up; it wasn't yesterday:
http://www.portlandmls2011.com/
Tonawanda needs a team.
Seattle press conference is decent.
Good enthusiastic crowd.
A little trash talking too... nice to see!
When the league gets to 18 teams don't be surprised to see re-aligment along the lines of East, Central, West
East:
Toronto
New York
DC
New England
Philadelphia
Columbus
Central:
Chicago
Houston
Dallas
Colorado
Salt Lake
Kansas City
West:
LA Galaxy
LA Chivas
San Jose
Seattle
Portland
Vancouver
Not sure if they plan to lengthen the season at this stage but they can set it up so that each team plays its divisional rivals three times a season, and then spread the other games between the remaining two divisions.
Not a purist's approach by any means but not illogical either.
I perfer 1 table. every time the mls tries to northamericanize the league it fails, when it is europeanized it succeeds..
Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather see a single table as well. But given how they've set up their playoff format, I don't see it happening in this league.
If they insist on a more North American set-up then I would prefer two single tables.
Have an East Champ and a West Champ at the end of the regular season.
Let those two play for the MLS Cup.
With a possible 20 teams, they could play home and away with each team in their own conference.
That would make 20 games... plus, have 10 more games against the other conference.
30 games total...
Though I would say it's even better to play 3 games each against your own conference and none against the other conference.
Then the MLS Cup would be a true measuring stick for who is better; East or West.
As long as they don't Europeanize it to the point where the same 4 teams sit at the top of the table every year....
1, 2 or 3 conferences, playoffs aren't that hard to setup
If they insist on a NA style playoff format, then I would also prefer they go with a single table.
You'll notice that the conferences are organised geographically, as they are in the NHL, NFL, NBA. If the US was the same size as England or Italy, geography wouldn't matter. To me, the single table concept will never be considered practical here.
which is why I am ok with having two single tables:
this sort of set-up works for MLB.If they insist on a more North American set-up then I would prefer two single tables.
Have an East Champ and a West Champ at the end of the regular season.
Let those two play for the MLS Cup.
With a possible 20 teams, they could play home and away with each team in their own conference.
That would make 20 games... plus, have 10 more games against the other conference.
30 games total...
Though I would say it's even better to play 3 games each against your own conference and none against the other conference.
Then the MLS Cup would be a true measuring stick for who is better; East or West.
Yes they have a couple playoff rounds, but they also have a lot more teams.
Only recently did they insert the inter-league games... and they make up a small portion of the schedule.
I think a system like this is great.
Last edited by flatpicker; 03-20-2009 at 01:33 PM.
That's 28 total actually. A team only would have 9 opponents in its conference but 10 in the other (a team can't play itself).
Here is the potential look for PGE park with the other side filled in
That will be a nice stadium, good sound with the roof
Posting at work and not thinking it through. Playoffs are playoffs regardless of league structure.
hmmm... now I'm flustered!
no wonder I took grade 10 math twice!
so, in that case... I would add a few more games within your own conference against "regional rivals".
I seriously don't like the idea of divisions in sport if the league insists on playing all the teams against each other and then, come playoff time, the concept is almost scrapped when choosing playoff teams.
If your gonna have divisions, make them count for something!
Give them some autonomy from the other division.
Make the reward for winning your division mean more!
Scrap the playoffs and go straight to a Cup Final between the two division champs!
if they really want to have a playoff round, then they should go to 4 divisions once the league hits 20 teams.
Maybe set it up with an East and West Conference with 2 division in each.
The 2 division champs play a home and away playoff to determine the regional champ... then those two champs play for Cup Final.
I dunno... I could ramble on here... I just think there are more logical ways to go about this...
Last edited by flatpicker; 03-20-2009 at 02:57 PM.
It might be. I noticed last year at the NFL website they offered the standings as a single table or each of the NCF and AFC as single tables.
But (according to wikipaedia, because I wouldn't know) the regular schedule has them playing teams in their own division twice a season, versus less than an average of less than once a year for all other teams.
So however they offer the standings, the schedule is dependent on division.
Would you say the same thing if TFC was the MLS' Man U? The way I look at it MLSE would spend the cash to keep a consistent winner out there. The Leafs, pre-cap, we're one of the top 3 spending clubs every year and the Raptors are hovering at the upper end of the cap too (last year, don't know about this year).
All signs point to TFC having a great chance at being consistent title contenders with MLSE behind them.
Not saying you wouldn't change your mind just pointing out that it's easy to say that now when we haven't won anything yet. There wouldn't be many saying that if we were on top on a consistent basis.
In theory the only deterent being that a strong East or West division could dominate the top 8. At playoff time you could alienate fans on one coast or the other. Thats a stretch, but it's all I've got.
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Exactly. Single table would always favour north-eastern teams. In Europe, almost every domestic game is a few hours away, since the countries are so small.
I'm more or less satisfied with what we have now, though I'd like to see more emphasis put on the Supporter's Shield, and maybe turn the MLS Cup into a Copa Del Rey or FA Cup-ish tournament that runs during the season.
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