This is what I've been saying all along. If someone politely asks you to sit down, move or whatever. Fine, no problem at all.Originally Posted by Parkdale
This is what I've been saying all along. If someone politely asks you to sit down, move or whatever. Fine, no problem at all.
As I said - Majority Rules..... If you can get everyone standing up, then that's where the rules can be bent. But if there are people not willing to stand, and you are in a nonstanding area...then you'll be sitting on your arse for the rest of the game.
Who said that was going to happen?
It's not that hard when you can get to the stadium during the process. I can't afford to take off a day to drive down to Toronto to relocate and I'm sure others are the same.
Or stand in the beer garden if you have too
I was 3200km away during relocation. I had someone do it for me.
We also had people in our group call their rep and had it done because they couldn't make it.
same thing applies with flags.
I've seen people try to use flags in non-supporters sections, and we all know how controversial 'flags-during-play' can be in the actual supporters sections.
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He does support us. He can't do everything that we ask for, but he has shown over and over again that he listens, and will act when he can.
I've beenh involved from the beginning, and have been amazed at the Front Office's willingness to consult the supporters. It started more than 6 months before the first game, and continues to this day.
Have we got everything we've asked for? No
Heve we benefited form the relationship we have with mlsintoronto? Absolutely - everyone in the stands has.
^ The problem is that we have more supporters then supporters sections.
No we don't.
We have too many people in supporters section just there for the cheap seats.
I had a few flags in 111 last year and someone in row 8 was telling me to put them down
Nomad,
That is exactly what happened to 104 we probably have like 20 if not supporters who could not get tickets to the south end, and now it has been turned into a sitting only section. I personally can go either way, but there are some games that you just want to stand all game long, and not being able too is a downer.
Or scalpers have them..
ok, looks like we had a bit of a miscommunication. The situations I'm talking about are where the stander has been given a warning by the staff, doesn't comply THEN is tossed, whereas it seems you're talking about a situation where the person doesn't receive a warning and is just tossed, which I agree is wrong.
What I can say is this..
There will be few things more depressing this year than seeing 104/105 being forced to sit down all match (which will kill any attempted atmosphere) while the Columbus or Impact fans next to us mock us...
I guess the thing is do you really expect MLSE to designate 104/105 a supporter's section when the visiting team's supporters sit in that section? that would be asking for trouble.
Not at all. I understand the reasons for not making it a supporters section based on the proximity to the visitors. I also understand if they force everyone to sit down based on the rules they've laid out in advance (I may not like it, but I made the choice to stay).
That said, it won't make it an easier to endure the taunts of the opposition when we've got nothing to give back.
Ok that makes sense! We only had problems at one game and when people got angry we went to different seats. I think that was the only time the entire season we even attempted to go to our actual seats
Yeah agreed. However, if you have to sit down I'm sure they have to as well. So if I see them standing up I'd tell security until they are all kicked out..haha.
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If I'm seated outside the supporter's section, I will only stand for tense moments of play, and goals.
You have to be mindful and respectful of the people sitting around you, who shouldn't have their view of the game obstructed. Not everyone wants to stand and cheer the entire game, but they have just as much right to be there, and see the game, as anyone else.
That said, they really need to do more to accommodate the people who DO want to stand the entire time. The supporter's section is still brutally small - it really needs to be bigger, and more tickets to the section really should be distributed to the groups themselves.
I'd personally love to be in the south stand every game, but often I get stuck out in the boring "expensive" sections, and have to listen to some well-to-do knobs behind me blather on about their RRSP's, and some TV show they watched last night (yes, this really happened).
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Every single person has been given the opportunity to sit in a standing section. We did not sell out of 127 during the upgrade process. By passing on the opportunity, you're saying your ok with where you are.
Not sure where some people are seeing a grey area. I love this debate though!
Today's news of possible stadium expansion is encouraging though...
Also 127 is not RPB even if we are United in our support.
you like watching us get all riled up dontcha you troll!
personally, I think a little kneeling (and praying) at the stadium couldn't hurt.
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I wonder if these people that wanna sit in the south end have ever actually sat there?
its a terrible place to WATCH the game.
Sure the atmosphere is great BUT the sight lines are terrible.
You might not read it here, but i'm sure there are are peeps that would love to trade the odd game or two with people that sit in the "sitting sections" just so they can switch up the vibe.
I've been in sitting sections and I find it's just as enjoyable watching the game there.
I'm never going to understand why people think they have a right, unless stated, to ruin someone else's afternoon just because they can't control their testosterone enough to stay planted on their ass for a couple of hours.
On top of that, it was established years ago in Britain that standing sections lead to accidents and injuries, because people get too boisterous. If you're in a section that allows it, more power to you. Otherwise, "scalpers don't obey, so why should I" is merely a juvenile excuse to have two people do the wrong thing instead of just one.
Your point on sightlines is accurate IMO and I have been in the southend, from a perspective of seeing the game unfolding form a midfield angle it takes on a different perspective indeed.
In the seating sections it is simply that, no standing although depending on the match you can find yourself out of your seat quite often as you get caught up with the play, at least for me anyway. Having said that though I would not ruin the experience for any of my fellow supporters.
actually, I like the end angle better than the side angle
also, standing or sitting doesn't screw up the atmosphere as when some clipboard office whore comes rampaging down the aisles just as a play is developing
Yep, that would do it for sure.
thats not true..i seen a few scalpers being led away by TO's finest last season...how they pick up certain ones and not them all i have no ideahe isint , he just didnt take the time to move seats ..... also what is the point of the legal stuff on the back of a ticket if it is never enforced outside the stadium , and also do you have good relations with the police? because they never ticket scalpers , heck scalpers weekly harass people on your property , i wonder if contacting a higher level of government might help?. Also would a club sponsored ticket exchange help curb scalping? especially if there was a cap on how much you could charge... It seems if the club really took a stranglehold on its tickets it might be able to sort out the scalper parasite. And for people who think scalpers generate hype.... They dont a 13,000 person waiting list does though. Without scalpers the stadium would always be full and there would still be hype ! ...
talk about off topic.... but i had to let it outi say we lobby the gov't as caring supportrs to fork up some cash for stadium expansion! then more fans get in , we get our own supporters only secion scalpers can scalp crappy high up seats , and EVERYONE is happy!
ask the cops that one..but they do get busted..
My father and I have been Season's ticket Holders in section 123 row 8 (MLSE VIP Section) since day one, and no one stands or sings in our section except for us, and the two middle aged guys directly in front of us, and one guy that screams his guts out a couple rows back at every touch of the ball. It's pretty frustrating really, we try and stand up as much as possible, but there are just so many snobby rich folks (as far as I'm concerned anyways)- also that seem to be different people every game - that just want to sit there and talk about what the offside rule is, how John Carver is Welsh and Robinson is from England, and how Brennan should be subbed off because he doesn't score enough.
It makes me pretty angry really, because we come to every game with our faces painted ready to cheer, and are yelled at to sit down and stop being so loud. I've been trying to push my dad to get seasons tickets in 112 for two years now, but he won't because he like the view you get too much...
Either way, this season, we're standing until we're told to leave the section.
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