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    Default Toronto FC must fix its centre of defence - now

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/2009/...ts_centre.html

    I'm sure some (most?) of you disagree, but I think there is genuine reason to be concerned.

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    i don't disagree on the general premise.. but i find the constant talk about Serioux's recklessness to be a bit much. For example, the player held up as a great example in the story, Jimmy Conrad, gets as many cards as Serioux does. Actually, in some seasons Conrad has earned more cards than Serioux.

    i think it's more likely Serioux will get injured than be more reckless than the typical defender.
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    A real CB would be great but I don't see the point of demanding Velez immediate departure or fabricating history for a guy who got 3 cautions and 1 red card last year.

    You're right Rocker I'd bet he misses more games to injury than he does to discipline

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    yep, that one lone red card in his MLS career is very very worrisome.

    not to say i don't agree that we need another CB though

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    I do not disagree with the article, I do disagree with you assessment of Attakora, I think he is good and could be great.

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    what's worrisome for me isn't Serioux (I think he's a solid addition to the team) but that he doesn't have another central defender to work with.

    I think it's a mistake for the club to look to him to anchor the defence on his own, and I believe the team needs an experienced central defender to partner Serioux at the back.

    For me, a Serioux-Velez or Serioux-Harmse pairing at the back is reason for concern.

    just my two cents, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmolinaro View Post
    what's worrisome for me isn't Serioux (I think he's a solid addition to the team) but that he doesn't have another central defender to work with.

    I think it's a mistake for the club to look to him to anchor the defence on his own, and I believe the team needs an experienced central defender to partner Serioux at the back.

    For me, a Serioux-Velez or Serioux-Harmse pairing at the back is reason for concern.

    just my two cents, though.
    I agree with that. Your analysis on how both Serioux and Harmse are esentially playing out of position was spot on. I was put at ease with Serioux joining the squad, but now after reading your piece I'm worried again.

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    rumour out of SC says that there will be a CB signing on Friday.

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    I was hoping for a better pairing than Serioux-Harmse as well, but Harmse was one of our best players last game. I think the position might be his to lose.

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    I agree that TFC could use an established central defender, particularly in that Harmse and Serioux are both playing out of their comfort zone at CB.

    However, I still think we need another attacker (preferably someone who can play the wide positions and in the centre) and I feel our biggest problem this season is going to be playing Guevara and De Ro together.

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    Somtimes the best defence is a good offence.


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    I will be happy when 1 more CB comes in.

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    Why is South Africa mentioned in the article. It's my home country, but we don't have any good CBs (that I know of).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuvinho View Post
    Why is South Africa mentioned in the article. It's my home country, but we don't have any good CBs (that I know of).
    I’m guessing it was intended to read "Europe or South American".

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraSuperMegaMo View Post
    I’m guessing it was intended to read "Europe or South American".
    hahaha...okay....I know Kevin Harmse is South African...but he already plays for Canada.

    I really don't care where the new CB is from as long as he is an experienced CB that can control the backline.

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    I wish they would have the spot filled already, but it wouldn't kill us (imho) if we wait to fill that spot until the euro season ends in May.

    What killed us last year was having 4 different important players (Guevara, Robert, Ricketts, Tebily) come in after the season started. That's too much midseason activity/destabilization.

    But one guy? That's MLS life, I think.
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    Fully agree John - good article.

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    Yup, Great article John. I fully agree that we are still lacking in the Defence Dept.

    this is so true:

    Velez, Harmse and Gyan are not starters, they're late-game substitutes (at best); players that can come on in the final minutes of the game, or be used in an emergency when the regular starters are injured, suspended or away on international duty.

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    i think starting Robbo back there for the beginning is a good idea
    play a 4 4 2 on D
    and can push up when we have ball to a 3 1 4 2

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    or a 3 2 3 2

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    Robbo is NOT a defender....He doesn't like playing that role and his services should not be used in that part of the park!.

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    only till a solution is found

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCREDNWHITE View Post
    Robbo is NOT a defender....He doesn't like playing that role and his services should not be used in that part of the park!.
    whyyyyy woooonnnnt tthhhiiiis idddeeaaaaaa diiiiieeeeee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfc View Post
    whyyyyy woooonnnnt tthhhiiiis idddeeaaaaaa diiiiieeeeee?
    not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmolinaro View Post
    what's worrisome for me isn't Serioux (I think he's a solid addition to the team) but that he doesn't have another central defender to work with.

    I think it's a mistake for the club to look to him to anchor the defence on his own, and I believe the team needs an experienced central defender to partner Serioux at the back.

    For me, a Serioux-Velez or Serioux-Harmse pairing at the back is reason for concern.

    just my two cents, though.
    Would your opinion change, if we end up signing Christanval?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfc View Post
    whyyyyy woooonnnnt tthhhiiiis idddeeaaaaaa diiiiieeeeee?
    ummm, I don't know, maybe because Carver used him there last Saturday when Serioux went off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakes McQueen View Post
    Would your opinion change, if we end up signing Christanval?

    - Scott
    Yes, it would change.

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    I have to agree with John's article.

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    I think the club has done very well this off season in boulstering the squad in the required positions, but I think we would all agree we have one glaring hole and that is at the CB postion. One more hole to fill Mo, you can do it.

    Then again, with the roster limitations, we're only a couple of injuries away from struggling, like most clubs I suppose, but it is sure to happen along the way.

    For the moment though you have to be encouraged with our chances for the upcoming season

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    ummm, I don't know, maybe because Carver used him there last Saturday when Serioux went off?
    yeah. it was a temporary solution to serioux being sent off

    temporary!

 

 

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