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    Leafs on TV is a totally different animal. I...

    Leafs on TV is a totally different animal.

    I am talking about fans in the seats, and that is where I think this may be a shaky idea. TFC are unquestionably going to lose significant numbers of...
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    I don't disagree. Good to see, good for them,...

    I don't disagree. Good to see, good for them, this is a team worth seeing.

    Our points are not mutually exclusive. Dallas has a long history of reporting 14K when you get to 3K using the naked eye.
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    I pretty much can't recall ever seeing a dame in...

    I pretty much can't recall ever seeing a dame in Dallas, or a highlight from a Dallas game, that didn't look like there were tumbleweeds blowing through the stands.

    Pro sports has an announced...
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    I wouldn't question your experience. I'll amend...

    I wouldn't question your experience. I'll amend "south end" to "cheaper seats"
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    The consistent start is probably good for TV. But...

    The consistent start is probably good for TV. But for the gate, night games are bad for families, and families dominate the stands, away from the south end
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    The buying and selling of TV rights for games...

    The buying and selling of TV rights for games other than your own is 100% separate.

    They should (and I am sure will) view those businesses as two separate entities as it relates to business...
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    An interesting speculation. Especially if that...

    An interesting speculation. Especially if that buyer brought a soccer management capability to the table.
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    Japan: Baseball is first, second, third and...

    Japan: Baseball is first, second, third and fourth. Next is high school baseball (their national championship is like World Juniors for us, only bigger). Sumo there is like Grey Cup here - nobody...
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    I wonder about this. You lose the families. They...

    I wonder about this. You lose the families. They pay the freight.
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    Counting SUM profit/loss figures in MLS figures...

    Counting SUM profit/loss figures in MLS figures is like talking about Leaf numbers in reference to TFC. It makes zero sense.

    They may be owned by the same entities, but they are different...
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    This idea of the inevitability of the long term...

    This idea of the inevitability of the long term growth of MLS is mystifying.

    Japan and the J League had a big head start on us - a way better academy-type system (high school sports there are...
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    This "enterprise value" thing was a Peddie...

    This "enterprise value" thing was a Peddie special. Not sure we've seen it since. He talked about that all the time, he thought he deserved to get paid because he was "building enterprise value" (ie...
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    Should it? If you owned it, and it was your...

    Should it? If you owned it, and it was your dough, would you do that? Based on what evidence? NYRB spent up for years on Henry, Marquez, etc, what did it get them?

    MLS/TFC are losing the battle. I...
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    It's only complicated because they want it to be...

    It's only complicated because they want it to be complicated because it serves their purposes. Kind of like the boilerplate in cellphone contracts.

    It's about counting actual bums in seats, TV...
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    Just to spare everybody the same discussion, you...

    Just to spare everybody the same discussion, you can re-read all of us hashing through the detail about the same debate about TFC numbers starting here (continue down for about 20 posts).
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    I definitely thought/think that re Bradley, but...

    I definitely thought/think that re Bradley, but he hasn't played well enough. we'll see.

    The stadium wasn't expanded for TFC.
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    If it isn't obvious, I'm just taking a wild ass...

    If it isn't obvious, I'm just taking a wild ass guess here. Anyone got another idea as to what Larson is talking about?
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    That is a fair point. Manning was hired by,...

    That is a fair point.

    Manning was hired by, and answers to, suits with a significant history of cheaping out on talent (calling Beach Red).

    The Galaxy and Sounders are owned by a guy or guys,...
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    ^Simple math. It's been done many times on here,...

    ^Simple math. It's been done many times on here, not going to find it. If you don't believe me so be it.

    it is a certainty that others are doing what we do by spending $5M (or less) on players,...
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    Thanks for your kind words, 99%, wow, you need to...

    Thanks for your kind words, 99%, wow, you need to talk to my wife!

    If the suits want TFC to stop bleeding money, what would you do?

    I bet someone talks about NYRB and Dallas at every board...
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    Not sure they can be moved. We all know Seba can.

    Not sure they can be moved. We all know Seba can.
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    Bumping this thread to speculate on something...

    Bumping this thread to speculate on something interesting Kurt Larson said in the Vanney thread.

    Per Larson yesterday: There's something being overlooked, however. Something that could be putting...
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    Something that I suspect Manning will be...

    Something that I suspect Manning will be pondering (hat tip to an old friend who posted this elsewhere)
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    The argument that "we can afford the DPs, so no...

    The argument that "we can afford the DPs, so no biggie" is upside down.

    TFC have the revenues either way, they always have, in fact it was bigger 2007-2011, when they really did mostly sell out....
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    Manning has made his first big call by declining...

    Manning has made his first big call by declining to do the obvious right thing and hire Kreis.

    While I might disagree with his call, I am impressed by the clarity of his thinking in the press...
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