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    Did the Riders pull good numbers in the 90's? ...

    Did the Riders pull good numbers in the 90's? Because the only thing I remember about them in the 90's was them having a telethon in a last ditch effort to save the team from going bankrupt. That,...
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    Or rock league: ...

    Or rock league:

    https://images.rapgenius.com/b2611b67257ef40fe8ab5d7fb05c3679.640x480x1.jpg

    Jokes & one very cool stadium aside, I agree with you though.



    Is this the relocation of folks...
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    ^^Okay mods - who's the joker that put p l a y o...

    ^^Okay mods - who's the joker that put p l a y o f f s on the banned word list? :)
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    I don't think you can draw that conclusion from...

    I don't think you can draw that conclusion from this. They created two pricing tiers, and what happens in one does not necessarily reflect what will happen in the other. Legacy SSH's are benefiting...
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    Most of which will keep there tickets anyway, so...

    Most of which will keep there tickets anyway, so the net result is a bit of angst. And the ones that do leave will mostly be in the South, the easiest ones to sell to new folks
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    Assuming we make the playoffs (which I suspect...

    Assuming we make the playoffs (which I suspect will be the trigger for a price hike), don't assume it is going to be a flat increase across tiers. In a given section/price point - I fully expect to...
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    Who knows how they will. But the reset of prices...

    Who knows how they will. But the reset of prices back to year one was to keep the remaining SSH base from walking out when prices where at the peak and the club was at an all time low. As soon as any...
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    Is that based on data or speculation? When I was...

    Is that based on data or speculation? When I was an SSH, most of the people around me were from the burbs
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    How does the "suburban dwellers" demo differ...

    How does the "suburban dwellers" demo differ between TFC and the Argo's though? Lots of TFC supporters are from the burbs and come down to BMO. If it was as simple as "people from the burbs don't...
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    There is a lot being thrown back at TFC from...

    There is a lot being thrown back at TFC from Argos and CFL fans in other places as well

    It's not productive for either side. Neither is the enemy for each other, and only detracts from what is...
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    I recall someone asking about painting green over...

    I recall someone asking about painting green over lines on the field. This was done for the Hull City - Man Utd game yesterday should be easy enough to find video to see what it looked like.
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    If there is any small solace to take in this...

    If there is any small solace to take in this whole situation, there is the comedy of the fact that the Argos are now owned by 2/3rds of MLSE, which means they will never win anything again.
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    There is another angle to look at. Football is a...

    There is another angle to look at. Football is a rapidly growing sport in North America, especially in younger demographics.

    The MLS has some catching up to do to become big time and tap into the...
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    + box seats, sponsorship revenue, merchandise...

    + box seats, sponsorship revenue, merchandise sales (DP's drive revenue especially Giovinco ) and of course the unknown amount of revenue the get from SUM.

    MLSE aren't in the game to lose money....
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    To be fair - the Google numbers do miss all the...

    To be fair - the Google numbers do miss all the older folks that don't use the Internet. Which is a lot of their fan base.
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    I used to live within walking distance of BMO and...

    I used to live within walking distance of BMO and on those same transit lines (which I relied on to get to work). It is an absolute mess. The streetcars are overloaded and the streets are rammed. ...
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    I live in Toronto proper, but not downtown, and...

    I live in Toronto proper, but not downtown, and it is a pain to get to. If it was on the subway line it would be a breeze. I can get to Union station from home on the subway in about 30 minutes. ...
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    Even if they did provide "proof" I would take it...

    Even if they did provide "proof" I would take it with a grain of salt. Most everything they have told us over this teams history has been nothing but fluff aimed at selling tickets or placating the...
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    I'm not implying that anyone should or shouldn't...

    I'm not implying that anyone should or shouldn't keep their seasons - just that giving them will not cause change here. This is done. If TFC has no SSH next year the Argos are still going to play...
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    I'm one of those that have up my tickets in...

    I'm one of those that have up my tickets in protest of the state of the team several years ago - but I wouldn't do it over this. Because giving them up over this would accomplish nothing.

    Folks...
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    Great article by John Molinaro. He hits the on...

    Great article by John Molinaro. He hits the on one of the core reasons for my concern. Why on earth would anyone give MLSE the benefit of the doubt? I don't with TFC any longer, why should I on...
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    Same here. Not one that I can remember. The...

    Same here. Not one that I can remember. The only people I know that go to Argo's games are ex-Saskatchewan residents that go when the Riders are in town.

    Also don't recall ever hearing a...
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    How does having another team add wear and tear to...

    How does having another team add wear and tear to the pitch benefit my team?

    How do lines on the pitch that are not for my sport benefit my team?

    How does removing one stand from the stadium...
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    I'm sure it will be fine in the rain. Its going...

    I'm sure it will be fine in the rain. Its going to take pressure to wash it off.
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    This would not surprise me one bit. First you...

    This would not surprise me one bit. First you get your foot in the door, then you push for changes. I think the seat color is going to become a bone of contention quickly. At best, I think we are...
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