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    There were two, right? A Sega and a Dreamcast? ...

    There were two, right? A Sega and a Dreamcast?

    That just seemed all wrong
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    You're wrong about my view of Bradley. [mod...

    You're wrong about my view of Bradley.

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    Friend, why on earth do you think I only follow...

    Friend, why on earth do you think I only follow MLS? I have been following EPL long enough that I think Arsenal should always have JVC and Man Utd should always have Sharp, as sponsors.

    Ibra's...
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    I grasp the complexities of agent/player/club...

    I grasp the complexities of agent/player/club life just fine.

    I invite you and everyone here to google the phrase "football agent talks about offer" or similar - you'll find a lot of Gio links, a...
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    This is rare, it doesn't happen "all the time". ...

    This is rare, it doesn't happen "all the time".

    You do realize that this incident supports my point, not yours, right?

    The Mirror or Daily Mail or whatever might assume that the agent was...
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    The agent and the player are one and the same. ...

    The agent and the player are one and the same.

    A player of Giovinco's stature is not going to allow his agent to independently mess with his club relationship. You'd have to believe that Giovinco...
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    If I was to guess, Seba would get his $15M for...

    If I was to guess, Seba would get his $15M for 3-4 years, but the issue is the transfer price. If I am MLS/TFC, I need a gigantic number (ie $20M) to do this.

    I still say it will happen, as long...
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    I am kind of amazed both at the number of people...

    I am kind of amazed both at the number of people who think Gio and his agent are making this up, and the number of people last year who accepted the rumour that Bradley could have been transferred...
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    We totally disagree about who is likelier to be...

    We totally disagree about who is likelier to be dissembling here. Imho, there is no way Gio is making this up, or would allow his agent to make it up.

    I am not saying Bez is lying, although he's...
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    So he had half a good season in a top league. ...

    So he had half a good season in a top league.

    Sounds like a real catch.
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    This guy, Odion Ighalo, whom I had barely heard...

    This guy, Odion Ighalo, whom I had barely heard of, and who has 3 goals in the last year and wasn't playing at Watford, got GBP $200-300K/week (USD 10-15M/year) a year for 4 years yesterday. Looks...
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    Seba confirming that Barca had interest, that has...

    Seba confirming that Barca had interest, that has me worried. Why suddenly talk about that this week?

    There are absolutely wild stories coming out today about Rooney.

    It's not going to be...
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    None of us can see into Gio's heart, but I am a...

    None of us can see into Gio's heart, but I am a bit doubtful about the hold Toronto might have on him.

    Italy is a long flight to both Toronto and Shanghai. Toronto has legit Italian culture, but...
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    I don't really know, but that sounds right. ...

    I don't really know, but that sounds right.

    But it seems obvious that the Chinese are dealing mostly (entirely?) with agents not clubs.
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    It is. But it's not how the super agent game...

    It is. But it's not how the super agent game works.
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    Sure. But that's not how Seba might see it.

    Sure. But that's not how Seba might see it.
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    This has the high potential to lead to acrimony...

    This has the high potential to lead to acrimony between the club and Gio.

    Say the Chinese have put $50M on the table, for three years. They tell Gio and d'Amico: go and negotiate your exit, you...
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    Ahh I misunderstood. Yeah I agree, neither gets...

    Ahh I misunderstood. Yeah I agree, neither gets him that.
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    Seriously? This is an all time misrepresentation...

    Seriously? This is an all time misrepresentation ....Have you been to China?

    They are crazy for soccer, big EPL games draw a hundred million or something on TV. It's the single biggest EPL market...
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    I get that Seba might turn down an extra 13...

    I get that Seba might turn down an extra 13 million euros a year because his wife doesn't like the air pollution... but let's not kid ourselves, this is not Italy, he is already far from home, and...
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    If they offer him similar money, sure. ...

    If they offer him similar money, sure.

    Otherwise, yeah, it's everything.
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    There are no words.

    There are no words.
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    I still hope you are right!

    I still hope you are right!
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    ^So Pelle from Southampton moved the needle? Or...

    ^So Pelle from Southampton moved the needle? Or Teixeira?

    Careers are short. Guys generally follow the money. I am old enough to remember when the NASL absolutely cleaned Europe out of every guy...
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    Bez said a whole bunch of absolutely nothing....

    Bez said a whole bunch of absolutely nothing. Which actually means something.

    He doesn't actually owe anyone an answer, but this "written offer" stuff makes me laugh. He just expects us to nod, as...
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