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    Ah, right then. I should have picked that up. ...

    Ah, right then. I should have picked that up.

    Hard to tell on this forum sometimes.
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    I Wouldn;t judge him on that at all. Many...

    I Wouldn;t judge him on that at all. Many successful teams in this league take the first half of the year to sign players and let injuries heal. Bruce Arena was notorious for his slow starts that...
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    Since that game we've only lost seven times over...

    Since that game we've only lost seven times over 53 games including playoffs and Canadian cup. That's quite a run.
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    https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/greg-vanne...

    https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/greg-vanney-robin-fraser-friends-quest-coaching-greatness-toronto-fc-mls

    solid piece from FFT. Missed this at the beginning of the season. Really good in...
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    We didn't properly switch to the 3-5-2 until the...

    We didn't properly switch to the 3-5-2 until the playoffs. Only played it in a couple games before that and only did it due to a lot of players being out injured. I still have vivid nightmares of...
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    I think it's just the press and the fans who are...

    I think it's just the press and the fans who are in the dark. The players *I think* would obviously be filled in on the situation as it relates to them.

    It is an odd strategy for sure. I'm not...
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    It's likely they've both been resigned but...

    It's likely they've both been resigned but there's been no press release. This FO has done that with players before, especially extensions/raises signed during the season, so I don't see any reason...
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    One thing about Vanney that I really like is that...

    One thing about Vanney that I really like is that he's one of the very few coaches in this league who isn't a "system" coach. His philosophy and preferred style of play is closer to Arena's than...
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    He had a huge hand in molding the talent and...

    He had a huge hand in molding the talent and depth. He didn't just luck into it, he and Bez built it together.
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    The lack of trust in a system that got us to...

    The lack of trust in a system that got us to first in the conference? I doubt that's what it is. The players have been very vocal about how much they think of Vanney, Especially the leaders on the...
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    Yeah I get that. I just don't understand the...

    Yeah I get that. I just don't understand the thinking behind that from Manning's perspective. I find it hard to imagine he's unhappy with the results his employees are producing, regardless of if he...
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    We agree, for once. As much as I've praised...

    We agree, for once. As much as I've praised Vanney and Bez, we have to get to the conference finals and a top 2 finish in the east for them to justify keeping their jobs. We're such an obviously...
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    Our best player was in a seriously...

    Our best player was in a seriously uncharacteristic slump through those eight games. He was almost detrimental in the way he kept looking off his teammates to shoot at absolutely every opportunity...
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    And that's a totally fair argument. Vanney's...

    And that's a totally fair argument. Vanney's adjustments didn't work. Part of that was that his plans were thrown out when he had to sub in Endoh for Seba instead of presumably one of beitashour,...
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    care to provide some reasons or evidence to...

    care to provide some reasons or evidence to support your claim?
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    Very little evidence to support that claim.

    Very little evidence to support that claim.
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    because they played four central midfielders and...

    because they played four central midfielders and four centre backs and Osorio was awful at the tip of the diamond and couldn't create anything. We need an upgrade at LB, as good as Morrow is...
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    Us and the Galaxy, at full strength, are best...

    Us and the Galaxy, at full strength, are best equipped to go deep in the playoffs this year. I'm confident we go far with Vanney at the helm. And not just this year, but for the foreseeable future...
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    What team do you watch regularly pull off pretty...

    What team do you watch regularly pull off pretty wins on the road? Road points are road points. We played the best game possible with the players at our disposal.
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    He's not going to needlessly handicap our cap...

    He's not going to needlessly handicap our cap again after what happened last year. I don't think the club sees A cup as likely this year, all things considered. Better to save the money for the...
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    That might have to do with the fact that we've...

    That might have to do with the fact that we've been missing several key starters for most of the last couple months. Vanney's done a decent job with what he has.
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    Both coaches could have done more to get the best...

    Both coaches could have done more to get the best out of the roster they have. Especially Sigi. He set his team up tactically and the overall structure of his roster in a way that didn't work. That's...
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    Kuper is really good at a lot of things. Tactical...

    Kuper is really good at a lot of things. Tactical analysis and talent evaluation aren't part of his repertoire though. Historically this may have been true, but the game is far too tactical now to...
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    So when we play well it's all on the players but...

    So when we play well it's all on the players but when we play badly it's all on Vanney? There's some middle ground there, surely.
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    I'm gonna take it you didn't pay too close...

    I'm gonna take it you didn't pay too close attention to the rapid meltdown Chelsea had this year then.
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