^ Agreed you would have to think Bill Manning and Co. know something. MLS is on the rise so will a DP slot just watch
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^ Agreed you would have to think Bill Manning and Co. know something. MLS is on the rise so will a DP slot just watch
If anyone has seen rumours about 4th DP slots etc, could they link it?
The CBA runs through 2025 and adding a DP spot is not straightforward.
The MLSPA, whose membership is 98% non-DP, is not just going to allow that. There would have to very significant things included that “float all boats” as part of that.
There's no rumors of a 4th DP spot.
There is an escalator built in to the new CBA where if there are new/increased media revenues the league can increase player budgets.
If MLS adds a 4th DP spot they will make it have some ridiculous caveats. The 4th DP must be between 26-28 and any transfer fees must be matched and sent to Dan Hunt.
Salcedo as a DP is disappointing on the surface, but perhaps his salary range will allow us to buy 3 U22 players? Silver lining?
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Lets park the buying down talk
I saw that as well, but he was commanding his line (which i thought look out of sorts at times) and distributing the ball so cleanly. I will give him a bit of a break on a couple of punches. I tell you what, i would rather have him and develop a protege. Although to be fair, even KJ was saying it looks like this is some of the best football he has played in 10 years.
^Not going to repost the whole thing but Auzzy, exactly this. And this is MLSE's style.... bring back a Legend. For Seba especially if we spend on the team to making cup runs real. He will make more money in the long run. The only problem is that his agent might not, so take our advice Gio ....LOL
Salcedo as a DP adter signing Insigne is a real feeling of whip lash. As others have said, the strategy here is completely incoherent. There has to be more to this than meets the eye, either with some kind of future buying down shenanigans or, as people have speculated, the new TV team changing the salary cap structure to enable something. Because as this stands it's a really, really weird DP to pair with your insanely highly paid hype generating statement DP
I’m going to wildly speculate, there’s no way he can be bought down right now. But maybe if we get a cheque for JMR in the summer or other things fall into place that allow that to change.
Otherwise it’s a bit of a baffling move. You can get serviceable CB’s on non-DP money, but it’s tough to fill out some of these attacking positions without use of the spot
While I'm not against the use of a DP slot on a CB, I don't think this is who I'd use it on. AFAIK Salcedo was on $1.1M USD @ Tigers...If we couldn't get him to an amount that would allow for buying down (~$1.6M?) then I would have walked from this deal full stop. Nothing against the player at all, but as many have said there are some MLS alternatives that we could have thrown Graber bucks at and kept the DP slot open.
There's also the getting rid of Soteldo piece. That probably has had a big influence on this.
I'm still not sure he cannot be bought down, otherwise why bother waiting for the transaction with Soteldo going the other way.
If Salcedo is an bona fide DP we would have announced him already since he's reportedly agreed to the terms and later negotiate the Soteldo transfer as a separate transaction.
Basically the only way the Salcedo thing makes sense is if his contract is heavily front loaded and he becomes buy downable in year 2.
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We have needed a quality CB for years. If the DP tag is necessary to get Salcedo and at the same time be the mechanism to move on from Soteldo I think I am okay with it. Salcedo is quality, he looked really good when he first got to Germany. It's not a sexy signing but it is one we really need.
This is true, however they could keep 3 DP spots but change the thresholds.
For example; MLS threshold from $612K to say $800K, TAM level from $801K to say $2.5M, DPs above that. And at the same time raise the basement from $63K to $85K or something like that. They have a clause to negotiate changes that benefit the players so this is all easy to accomplish.
Lets wait to see the official announcement and terms before calling this one way or the other. You win championships on defense, let's hope he can command the line and learn to speak Italian for the summer..
As an aside does our back line speak English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese or French...LOL
Im with you on this. I don't believe a DP needs to be a goal scorer.
A DP needs to be a game changer - and we have seen that a quality/capable CB leader is a game changer.
I don't know if Salcedo is quality, I don't watch LMX - but he's a starter on a prominent team and he's only 28, so I can only assume he's worth the $$
This is exactly what I mentioned by raising the league minimum and the "TAM" threshold. This is why Delgado is gone to a degree and Bono will be soon as well. The raises players get annually is fine but after some time they will hit the TAM threshold and then a team has to decide whether they're worth the allocation $$ to buy down. I don't think that was the sole reason for Delgado moving but eventually it will be the downfall of Bono. That is helping the 98% and isn't doing anything for the DPs, they're unchanged. Only difference would be to DPs that were around $1.6 to $2.49M as they would be re-classed as whatever "TAM" level guys are now. Doing this would in effect raise pay across the board and allow domestics to reach a higher pay bracket before requiring allocation buy downs.
Also, for a year almost everyone was bashing Curtis for signing Soteldo without addressing our defence and leaving us terribly unbalanced. Now they address this exact issue and that's no good either. There is literally no way to win.
For me I'm more trying to figure out the 'why'. From a pure team building POV this could be a top signing to help us win, so I'm not against it at all. Just at this point I have no idea what MLSE are thinking. Insigne told me the strategy was to splash cash and generate serious buzz, but not pairing him with any other high profile DPs would be a weird choice then.
In other words I find it more fascinating than concerning. We definitely need a top level centre half, though we also have a huge, huge need up front and that spot usually demands a DP level signing whereas centre half can usually be filled underneath that threshold
I'm floored by the amount of confusion there is behind getting a CB as a DP.
The type of CB we need doesn't just appear on the market in abundance. Even at the most Elite levels of football, finding someone who can lead a back line is very difficult.
Walker Zimmerman would be the Non-DP/TAM MLS level CB we should be targeting if we are serious about being competitive.
If that level of player isn't available, you don't settle for less. You spend bigger if you have to in order to get the right piece.
Pretty much - I think, dare I say it, it might be easier to land Mattia Destro as a TAM player and then work with a strong spine in Salcedo rather than leaving CB as-is and having Belotti with what is probably a porous defense, even with Bob Bradley's new tactics.
The problem is that they’ve given DP money to a TAM CB. There are some very good CBs expiring this summer that the club could have gone after if they actually wanted to spend on a CB. Instead, they were so desperate to dump Soteldo that they’ve given Salcedo a near 50% raise and a DP spot.
I want to know the story behind Soteldo. To not even try and make it work under Bob Bradley to the degree that you’d basically spite yourself to the tune of millions of dollars is just too crazy.
While I’ll be disappointed if we weren’t able to buy down Salcedo, I don’t think it restricts us too much. We have a ton of cap space/allocation still available this year ($4M+, thanks to noxx98 ‘s excellent spreadsheet).
And I think there is a decent chance we transfer Pozuelo in the summer or at the end of the year. Depends on how the new coach sees him fitting in with Insigne.
We'll just have to wait and see. Destro might actually be the biggest key to this offseason.
Agreed. It's not always about plan A. They didn't get the striker they wanted, they didn't get a cheaper alternative from within the league, so they shored up the spine of the team by spending money.
It'll be bought down to TAM in year two, probably.
We don't need two Insgine-level marquee signings to be successful on the stands or in the pitch. One will do just fine. There are a ton of decent attacking players in South America and Eastern Europe who can be had for less than DP money.
I think they'll bank on BB's connections in Scandinavia, the French second division and Egypt to uncover some more offense.