Apparently Liverpool used JMR as a RB when he was on trial there. Gotta think that is where his future is.
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Apparently Liverpool used JMR as a RB when he was on trial there. Gotta think that is where his future is.
Yeah, Harvey Elliott suggested they should sign him. There were a few local blogger and press stories out of Liverpool saying they were impressed by his potential. I don't think they saw him as an Elliott or Davies level player though, who could step into the first team anytime soon. He'd be going there to train with the u23s and play in the Premier League 2.
If they buy him, it will only be because they thought they saw distinct learning. Any junior player that comes with a big price tag attached they have to consider as a possible first teamer within a year or two, at most, or that investment is lost, as any team signing him after is likely to be from Championship or lower and to get him on a post-contract free transfer.
Andreas Vaikla in for Westberg in the second half.
Could be that they’re looking to get Bono and Westberg minutes against starters for other teams/have them play with the TFC starters. I’d expect Bono to start our next game.
So forgive me for thinking this but I really do think Poz is going to stick around for another couple years.Quote:
“I’ve been only a day here with the team, there's been a lot of travel in the last few days, but so far talking with Alejandro he has said great things about the club, the country, the city,” relayed the forward. “He's mentioned that I'm going to be really happy here.”
Hugo Mbongue and Reshaun Walkes
on for Peruzza and Viader.
No I was playing it straight. No Bakero analogy.
I really have zero idea about this kid, I just like the story of the guy who starts out in La Masia, then at age 20 winds up pursuing the dream in deepest Kansas/Iowa... and then turns up here.
Going to have to rewatch Campo de Sueños
He's a solid finisher and times runs really well. His goal at the end of last season, where he used the last man back to stay onside, was a good example. This one, too. He times the run just late enough that even though a central defender sees him, they just don't have enough time to turn and step up to cover.
2-1 final for the good guys today.
Even if he goes for free (Which he likely wont, but, they definitely will sell at a big loss), I'd *very* confidently say if you took their total spend on players (wages + fees) and subtracted transfer income and did the same with us their number is way way better than ours
Maybe this is just my naivety but I see the “go play fullback” move used by coaches when they want to get the sense of a players potential without de-railing everything else that’s happening on the field.
Maybe it’s not his future (I kind of selfishly hope it’s not) but we’ll see.
Their model is to roll the dice on young SA players to sell abroad fast and their management & fans think that is success. Our model is to get players to come here, stay a while, and win. Can't compare the two styles. Atlanta is more like Dallas than what we're doing.
How is our style to win and theirs isn't when we've won the same amount of cups and have pretty comparable regular season records since they entered the league, if anything they'd maybe slightly shade it?
I don't get the weird attitude towards Atlanta on this board, is it jealousy? I see it alot with comments about their team or transfers. I'm not even saying I'd switch places or strategies with them but they have no less claim to have winning as a strategy than we have (neither of us can claim it, frankly, not even close. Neither of us are Real Madrid even by MLS standards) and they've net spent less money than us. We're quite comparable clubs in stature and achievement
Just an FYI - ATL fans do not think they are near our stature & are right royally pissed off at their head office for not thinking beyond Tato Martinez.
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Its not jealousy - its contempt.
ATL fans & managment thought they had created the "one true way". For Pete's sake, the equivalent of WTR for Atlanta were spouting how sophisticated & top European class their attack was....during the first half of their very first friendly against Charlston Battery.
Then when Almiron & Tato left, it all fell apart.
Atlanta had 2 good seasons. All tied to one coach & one player
We had 3 - all tied to one coach & 2 players. BUT, we know how bad the bad times were. Which is why when 2021 happened, many of us remained.
As to Atlanta, the idea that their approach is a money maker doesn't add up. I agree with U&P. They have won the roll of the dice once. Nobody else worked out. What ATL do have is a dominant forward in his prime - Josef is an anomaly in this league. Nobody comes close to his effect on MLS in the last 5 years.
They've rolled the dice and won at least three times. Two players sold at a profit and a third whose one of the best strikers the leagues ever had, maybe the best
I agree it isn't a money maker and it isn't the be all end all definitive strategy, but that doesn't give us reason to be snobby on the other side. They've had comparable results to ours and their net spend has been far lower, so I'm not sure where we get off with comments like our culture is winning and they're more like Dallas or they've just gotten lucky a couple of times. They've gotten comparable results with less money spent, bottom line end of.
He isn't coming in July either, guys.
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I am leaning more towards the OgtheDim et al. camp on this matter.
I think, at this time, it is not within TFC/MLSE's DNA to engage in that sort of football activity.
I do not believe it will ever be.
I am not sure that is an elitist position. For me, much more MLS/football pragmatic.
Although the DP/U-22 discussion is enjoyed, I do not even see that happening.
IMO BB has telegraphed his/TFC's intentions, they are and will be in the mid-interim a star DP team.
BB will engage in U-22 activity, but it will less likely be from SA, and much more likely domestics; CAN and more specifically ONT.
BB's stated intentions and positions, the in-house/academy/teams reboot, and the welcomed re-look at youth participants at training camp, all suggest this strategy.
Also...
I am not so sure about the comparable results analogy. By what metrics?
Within a specific timeline? Sure. Within payroll? Fine; double or more by TFC.
Within Championships? Maybe.
Within competitiveness? Nope... only a quarter to a fifth as successful as TFC for me depending on your stance...
ATLU one MLS Championship.
TFC one MLS Championship, two other MLS Championship Finals, one CONCACAF Champions League Final. Oh and one MLS Supporters Shield.
TFC and us supporters by far the more rewarded.
I'm getting so fucking hyped for this season!!!!!!
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They started last season promising to play the Canadian youth but then quickly panicked and brought in + fielded the fringe veteran Americans.
Hopefully they stay true this time and we don't see someone like Juan Agudelo come in on a balloon contract.
Martinez wasn't a dice roll. He was a failed Euro striker. That's different and they didn't drop a huge transfer fee on him. Totally different.
Yes, for Pity they pretty much got their money back but they were also fairly junk during his time. Barco will be a big, big loss and they accomplished nothing with him either. Lost with LGP too and soon with Damm. With Almiron they won a cup and got a transfer fee that was good.
Like I said depends on what you consider success. We made 3 finals (won one) and made the the CCL finals. All that equalled more revenue streams with seat sales and advertising during the runs. Yes our payroll was higher but not by a lot but their transfer fees paid were much higher during this stretch. In that time they won one cup and a fake friendly trophy and that's it and it happened when they were flush with new team allocation money. Now they're just another mid tier Eastern Conference squad. Does anyone see them challenging for anything anytime soon? No. We're a different story and doing things a different way. It's like comparing Ajax to Man City in recruitment strategies.
I don't know what to tell you if you think we'rewMan City. We're not even Tottenham until we can safely say we've spent more time as a credible team in this league than an abject whipping boy joke and we can't even do that yet.
Other than a couple of cup runs which are largely luck based I see two identical stature teams. For all what you're saying, they've pretty much equaled or bettered our point totals since inception (I'd havve to add it up, but we're close), won 1 cup each and spent less money doing it. How that makes them Ajax and us City is beyond me, except in some kind of dream world where we're a perennial contender and winner setting the standard for the league
Also our pay roll was higher, and yes, by *alot*. Like, alot alot.
And to be clear, I love where we're at and where we're going, but I can also see merit in what others are doing even if their fans are annoying
^but aspiring to be the Spurs, that's just mean.