TFC 2019-2020 player off-season roster discussion

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Originally Posted by Mikmacdo

Auro was the third best player on TFC last year according to whoscored. I think people listen to Caldwell a little too much who seemed to have a grudge with auro early in his career. TFC was a better player when he was on the field. He's also younger than layrea. He can also cover at left back.

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Whoscored once had Doneil Henry as the highest-ranked Cb in the league for several weeks in a row. I don't always think it reflects reality.

Auro is one of the best wingbacks in the league. But it's almost entirely because he's fantastic in the buildup and we spend most games in possession, not playing the counter press.

I don't think he's a better defender than Laryea. The knocks come from glaring errors in multiple games, sometimes back-to-back, in which he has blown marking assignments and cost us goals directly.

Laryea has given up a few too, but generally with a shift at play that leaves a zone uncovered. Auro just blows marking assignments by not staying tight and tracking well. He's particularly brutal on set pieces.

But his upside going forward is huge. So is Laryea's. I say you platoon them.

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Originally Posted by Mikmacdo

Auro was the third best player on TFC last year according to whoscored. I think people listen to Caldwell a little too much who seemed to have a grudge with auro early in his career. TFC was a better player when he was on the field. He's also younger than layrea. He can also cover at left back.

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I don't look at statistics websites or listen to commentators. I much prefer the evidence of my own eyes. Stats are all well and good, but can be very easily spun anyway you want. Do you seriously believe he was TFC third best player last season? I also have no idea where the myth that Auro can play left back came from. Because he had to do it a couple of times in a crisis?

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Originally Posted by East Coast Red

I don't look at statistics websites or listen to commentators. I much prefer the evidence of my own eyes. Stats are all well and good, but can be very easily spun anyway you want. Do you seriously believe he was TFC third best player last season? I also have no idea where the myth that Auro can play left back came from. Because he had to do it a couple of times in a crisis?

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So you didn't see how accurate auros passing was? He's also solid defensively. The team was probably at its best with him at lb and Richie at RB.

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Originally Posted by Mikmacdo

So you didn't see how accurate auros passing was? He's also solid defensively. The team was probably at its best with him at lb and Richie at RB.

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I agree with this. I think we're best with them both out there and the thing is that Auro is still improving, not declining. Of course sometimes he will get wrong sided but so did Bradley, Delgado, Mavinga (a lot), and Gonzalez last season. It happens. This is MLS and the players aren't infallable. Also he is a wee guy so set piece defending isn't going to be his forte.

I like Auro but I haven’t gotten over him losing his man on the first Seattle goal.

To be fair, my biggest complaint about Auro was his defensive positioning. When Omar came in, that seemed to really help him, having somebody in his ear telling him where to go. As for passing accuracy, 10 yards backwards or sideways passes are easy - one of the main reasons I don't like basing opinions on statistics. The one stat that might be relevant is Key passes. I honestly don't remember him making many passes that lead to a goal scoring opportunity. I also don't recall too many dribbles at the heart of the defense that caused defenders problems. Richie on the other hand, had plenty of those.

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Originally Posted by ensco

I like Auro but I haven’t gotten over him losing his man on the first Seattle goal.

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A bit harsh, lots went wrong on that goal. Numerous chances by a few to stop that one.

Just watching the NYCFC play-off replay on TSN and Auro bailed out a beaten Mavinga to save a really good scoring opportunity. I think what it comes down to is that supporters here need a few guys to shit on no matter how they do and it takes years for them to get beyond that, ala Delgado.

Auro is very good. And occasionally bad. Thats my strong take. I also think it's generally true.

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Originally Posted by PaceyWinger

Auro is very good. And occasionally bad. Thats my strong take. I also think it's generally true.

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All MLS players are occasionally bad. Vela is occasionally bad.

There's been a lot of negativity on the forums recently and people seem to discount the fact that other teams are MLS teams as well and have the same if not greater issues.

Most (all?) analysts, power rankings, Vegas odds whatever have TFC as a top 5 team and a contender. Shield may be tough. But Canadian, MLS, and for what it's worth Leagues Cup are all winnable.

Injuries might derail things they might not. We got lucky against NYFC and ATL. But we did it without our best fw and cb.

We didn't bring in a lot of new players but I'm excited for Shaff, Laryea, Fraser, Achara and more to take big steps forward. Maybe all of them won't but some will.

We get a full season of Gonzalez. We get to see what Gallardo is all about. And even if he's injured my money is on us getting more games out of Piatti than we got out of Benezet last year.

We've seen a lot of shit years. Let's enjoy the good ones.

Come on you reds!

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Originally Posted by Kiwi10

And even if he's injured my money is on us getting more games out of Piatti than we got out of Benezet last year.

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So what, like, 9? Out of 34?

Agree overall with the rest but boy is that a low bar to set for a DP. Even for Jozy 9 games would be a disaster

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Originally Posted by Kiwi10

All MLS players are occasionally bad. Vela is occasionally bad.

There's been a lot of negativity on the forums recently and people seem to discount the fact that other teams are MLS teams as well and have the same if not greater issues.

Most (all?) analysts, power rankings, Vegas odds whatever have TFC as a top 5 team and a contender. Shield may be tough. But Canadian, MLS, and for what it's worth Leagues Cup are all winnable.

Injuries might derail things they might not. We got lucky against NYFC and ATL. But we did it without our best fw and cb.

We didn't bring in a lot of new players but I'm excited for Shaff, Laryea, Fraser, Achara and more to take big steps forward. Maybe all of them won't but some will.

We get a full season of Gonzalez. We get to see what Gallardo is all about. And even if he's injured my money is on us getting more games out of Piatti than we got out of Benezet last year.

We've seen a lot of shit years. Let's enjoy the good ones.

Come on you reds!

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I think most of us are pissed at the DP they brought in ! we were expecting much more from the club! Lets go reds

Woohoo, it's game day!!!!!

Are we shutting down this thread?

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Originally Posted by Dave F

I think most of us are pissed at the DP they brought in ! we were expecting much more from the club! Lets go reds

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By all accounts, we would have gotten more but the new CBA kiboshed that.

I just listened to the COYR podcast and there was a lot of talk about Gallardo and where he fits in. Wheeler also stated that Vanney was very high on him and would speak about him regularly in pre-season. Judging by how he has been used since he was acquired seems to suggest otherwise. I really don't know what to make of him. Presumably he was able to play yesterday as he was on the bench yet once again he was unused.

Makes me think there is a disagreement between the coach and mgmt on him.

Does anyone know if we have any TAM GAM left for another signing or did we max out on the Bradley contract? Would be nice if we could add another striker.

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Originally Posted by NK Toronto

I just listened to the COYR podcast and there was a lot of talk about Gallardo and where he fits in. Wheeler also stated that Vanney was very high on him and would speak about him regularly in pre-season. Judging by how he has been used since he was acquired seems to suggest otherwise. I really don't know what to make of him. Presumably he was able to play yesterday as he was on the bench yet once again he was unused.

Makes me think there is a disagreement between the coach and mgmt on him.

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Just coming off a hamstring injury. I don’t think he wanted to risk him. If he doesn’t play again on Saturday, I’ll start questioning it.

I'm sick of watching Delgado dribbling the ball in open space on the pitch and has no clue what to do with it. Every time he just passes off to the wing when that man is covered or just passes backwards which drives me nuts.

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Originally Posted by NK Toronto

Does anyone know if we have any TAM GAM left for another signing or did we max out on the Bradley contract? Would be nice if we could add another striker.

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I think we should make a trade within the league we all know that Altidore will get hurt soon and Mullins is just not good enough fit I think we need go after Hurtado from KC he would be a great fit with some size and speed even play him and Alt at the same time with two guys up top.

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Originally Posted by Phil744

I think we should make a trade within the league we all know that Altidore will get hurt soon and Mullins is just not good enough fit I think we need go after Hurtado from KC he would be a great fit with some size and speed even play him and Alt at the same time with two guys up top.

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I love Hurtado. Always struck me as a Toronto sports kind of player. Works hard, bit of personality, some talent, versatile.

I like Mullins, but not sure he works hard enough as a guy alone up top. And not versatile either.

Shouldn't we be starting an "in season" roster thread now? Just thinking out loud...

Daniel Sturridge just got bought out by his Turkish club and is available for free and can play the wing though I recall him complaining about playing wing under Klopp...

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Originally Posted by shwade

Daniel Sturridge just got bought out by his Turkish club and is available for free and can play the wing though I recall him complaining about playing wing under Klopp...

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Because we don't have enough injury prone guys on our squad yet.

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Originally Posted by shwade

Daniel Sturridge just got bought out by his Turkish club and is available for free and can play the wing though I recall him complaining about playing wing under Klopp...

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banned until june as well for some dodgy betting practices
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/daniel...all-until-june

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Originally Posted by Joe Kool

Shouldn't we be starting an "in season" roster thread now? Just thinking out loud...

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Why not just edit the title

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Originally Posted by burlington Red

banned until june as well for some dodgy betting practices
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/daniel...all-until-june

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Damn, stevep will love this.

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Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud

Because we don't have enough injury prone guys on our squad yet.

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That's our brand.

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Originally Posted by Joe Kool

Shouldn't we be starting an "in season" roster thread now? Just thinking out loud...

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Good point!

New thread here:

http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/showth...ter-discussion