didnt bradley go off injured last night?
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didnt bradley go off injured last night?
Vanney and Bez are absolutely on track to be fired at year end if the team remains mediocre.
The suits are not going to be blaming themselves if a $21M payroll team can't compete with a $4M payroll team.
It's the middle of the season. We've shown at times withh all our pieces together that we can be dominant. There's no reason to think we're going to stay at this base level for the rest of the season. We have signings to make, we have guys coming back from international duty and injury. We'll be fine.
Yep, and it will be well deserved. They've been patient with Vanney, considering the players currently burning money on the payroll, and he has yet to deliver the kind of results they should expect.
I hope he turns it around once our roster is filled back in with missing players, as I like Vanney, but if we continue this mediocre march, he will have to go.
I'm a little more ambivalent about Bez's future, simply because it's clear that a lot of the big moves "he" made, were actually decided by Leiweke, and he was charged with trying to fill in the cracks. This led to him being handed that shitty situation with Defoe, which he tried to make lemonade out of by getting Altidore, for example.
Then again, the die has been cast, and if he can't get it done within the constraints he has been handed, then maybe they should give someone else a try.
This
The clearest evidence that the DP system is fatally flawed is to look at Portugal in this Euro 2016. One great player rarely can make a team great on their own. The DP system is the worst thing about MLS - I'd abolish the rule tomorrow if I could.
I love how this thread resurrects after a loss where some bad refereeing, combined with one DP being injured and the other being away were responsible for the loss. It's like losses automatically bring out cries of "fire the coach!"
Vanney has been responsible for losses over his term but this wasn't one of them.
It was not always bad. It was a device for a particular time in the league's evolution. But now, I'd say it is not the proper mechanism now, as all the attempts to tack on more and more show. Time has come for a large cap with luxury tax set up. Let the spenders spend, carve out enough to prevent anyone from falling off the cliff at the other end.
Edit: the counterpoint to this is "how to do it in a single entity context." That, unfortunately, is not changing.
This. I pray we get to a point where we don't have these kinds of thread come up every single time we lose a game, but I fear that that is asking far too much of some people. It's just nice that the people in charge aren't listening to the more trigger happy calls of some of our fanbase anymore.
Bez's top priority this summer has to be getting another hold up striker. The lack of space for Giovinco to run at a defender 1v1 is killing the offence. Opposition gives up the flank for TFC attackers to put in a hopeful cross, because TFC attackers lack the height to attack the cross in the box. Opposition concentrates on stuffing the centre of their defence because TFC isn't going to be much of a threat from the flanks.
Hamilton right now is more of a poacher/slasher than a hold up striker. He might develop into a hold up striker, but he'll need to bulk up more and be more mean to buy that space for Giovinco.
Currently the squad relies far too much on pass and move style attack and it's too predictable. In MLS, you do better with a hold up man. As much as Altidore gets flak for not scoring, TFC attack is far better with Altidore in the line up, so that opposition just don't key on stopping Giovinco.
Just my observation, more competitive teams in TFC players on the counter, has a DM who can pass and break up plays and have a strong hold up man to create space for their creative attackers.
I think Bez and Vanney gets till end of Aug to put TFC at least in a playoff position. Manning might consider firing them if the results don't come by then.
Anyone know where we can clone a younger version of Dichio? lol
22pts divided by 15 games is 1.46ppg if elfath calls bendik penalty and doesnt call our guy at end of game
2nd best record in ppg in the east with lots of home games in hand
this league is kind of cheesy
btw anybody think the game was rigged or managed by mls for orlando benefit, it sure looks that way
My rationale is that TFC have 3 players who are stronger than almost any other players in those positions in the league. Why else would you pay millions to have them on your team? So right off the bat they should be stronger than most teams in those positions.
They have a Champions League/League 1 Veteran in Benoit Cheyrou
Former MLS All Stars in Drew Moore, Justin Morrow, Clint Irwin, Steven Beitashour and Will Johnson
And the rest of them have had elite upbringings as well - Marky Delgado was a US U-17, U-18 and U-20 player; Jonathan Osorio and Damien Perquis both have International experience.
This isn't a team of 3 players and 8 borderline below average mls chumps. They have proven quality all over the pitch.
There is no reason for them to be fighting for the last spot in the MLS playoffs.
IMO - The results are currently show them as underperforming. There are probably a ton of theories why they are and I'm sure people will start to rattle them off - but at the end of the day, with a roster of that talent - they are underperforming.
Things went to shit when Jozy went down. Unfortunately he is cursed with shitty hamstrings but his effectiveness on our roster can't be denied. Can't blame Bez or Vanney on dumping Defoe for him. When he's healthy we're a top 3 club, have a golden boot contender in Seba, and have a decent offense. Without him, we're where we were last year in the standings but with a better defense and an off Golden Boot pace Seba.
No I do not think we should have a Canadian Captain but we're underperforming right now because 2 of our 3 DPs are absent. If Bradley was playing for Chicago and had to miss 10 games a year it wouldn't matter to those fans because he'd be leading their national team and they'd have some positive to counter the absence of their Captain with. Since he's playing for a Canadian team what he does with the US just takes away from his club with no silver lining. And Altidore..no point talking about what he brings to the squad because he's hardly there..man's is raking it in and permanently on vaca.
Do we really have to go over what Altidore does again?
and irwin is out for 6 weeks,that wont help the park the bus system now.
I know what you're saying Og, but technically, he isn't wrong either. We're 15 games into the season, and we've played with basically 2 DPs the entire time. Maybe 1.7 if you count Bradley's call up.
Yeah we have the highest payroll, but Seba is the only consistent DP we have. It's very annoying.
What was factually incorrect about my statement?
None so blind as those who refuse to see..
Seriously you cannot argue the fact that Altidore hardly plays. He's getting a shit load of coin. He doesn't have $5.5M Forward stats. So wtf are the redeeming qualities? He's good when he does play? That's fucking awesome for a top 10 salary player in this fucked up league.
Rationalizing the strength of the squad by amount of money you spend on your squad is a terrible way. Money doesn't guarantees success; way too many factors to determine a winner. Add in the crazy factors you find in MLS and you get the topsy turvy insanity that's MLS. Other teams aren't managed by idiots either. They often find just as good talent and for cheaper price.
Another gamble about to backfire, I fear.
Would someone ask Bez why we don't have a real backup keeper?
I'm not opposed to this, but the mentality of the fans and management is challenging for the MLS shield and making a deep run in the playoffs. Releasing your serviceable veteran keeper who wasn't making much maybe wasn't the best idea if a situation like this happens.
Lets see how the gamble pays off, I do want to see what these young keepers can give.
I'm trying to remember anybody disliking the "dump Konopka & go with the kids as backup" move back when it was done.
We've already seen one brain fart from Bono cost us a goal on Saturday - that was Saundersesque.
Lets see if he and Q can learn a thing or too from their mistakes.