MLS Cup Final - TFC @ Seattle Sun Nov 10 3pm - Now Don't Be Sad

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10-30-2019, 09:39 PM
OgtheDim

MLS Cup Final - TFC @ Seattle Sun Nov 10 3pm - Now Don't Be Sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

*****

Have at It People
10-30-2019, 09:40 PM
catz4ever

Wow!!! Who would have thought we’d make it to MLS Cup Final
10-30-2019, 09:44 PM
sidvan

How do we get tickets?
10-30-2019, 09:45 PM
glaze

Wonder why Saturday night didnt make sense?
10-30-2019, 09:49 PM
mauser09

Game really gonna be at noon pacific time? Seems strange for a final
10-30-2019, 09:56 PM
Yuushalinsky

I'm happy whatever the result is... that being said,

COME ON YOU REDS. I want to see us storm their house and bury it.
10-30-2019, 09:58 PM
rydermike

Westberg
Auro-Gonzalez-Mavinga-Morrow
Delgado-Bradley-Osorio
Pozuelo-Altidore-Benezet

Laryea and DeLeon as supersubs

Drew Moor as a 90th minute sub ala Cheyrou in 2017

TFC lifts trophy
10-30-2019, 10:20 PM
Initial B

Can't wait for the rubber match!
10-30-2019, 10:24 PM
OgtheDim

One aspect of this game that I think changes things a lot.

Both teams are not going to let this game define them. There will be no massive pressure to succeed. Everybody wants to win, but there is no overarching "we HAVE TO win this game" mentality like there was in 2016 & 2017.

I think both teams will go in with a lot of freedom to play a fun expansive game, knowing full well that this one game isn't the be all and end all for the franchise.
10-30-2019, 10:24 PM
Waggy

I cant fucking believe it. what a run. what a team. westberg needs a statue
10-30-2019, 10:25 PM
JoesphNdo

How's everyone getting there? Flying to Vancouver seems to be the best play, really tempted to pull the trigger on flights there
10-30-2019, 10:28 PM
pfk

I can't believe it! This is amazing! What a fuckin' good team!
10-30-2019, 11:10 PM
Redcoe15

Quote:

Originally Posted by OgtheDim

One aspect of this game that I think changes things a lot.

Both teams are not going to let this game define them. There will be no massive pressure to succeed. Everybody wants to win, but there is no overarching "we HAVE TO win this game" mentality like there was in 2016 & 2017.

I think both teams will go in with a lot of freedom to play a fun expansive game, knowing full well that this one game isn't the be all and end all for the franchise.

If there is pressure, it will be on Seattle to win it in front of their own fans.
10-30-2019, 11:27 PM
Red CB Toronto

There is only thing left to do this season ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hDl6OALv4
10-30-2019, 11:42 PM
pfk

I wonder if MLSE will open up BMO or Scotiabank for a viewing party on the 10th?

The Leafs play on the 9th and are away in Chicago the next day. The Raptors play in LA on the 10th. Inside it will be nicer and closer to the screens.
10-30-2019, 11:51 PM
Brooker

You couldn't write this east/west playoff if you tried. Unbelievable.

I can't believe it. What a trip.
10-30-2019, 11:59 PM
Red CB Toronto

https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MT...ed-mls-cup.jpg
10-31-2019, 12:28 AM
spe18

Quote:

Originally Posted by glaze

Wonder why Saturday night didnt make sense?

College football :)
10-31-2019, 02:35 AM
James17930

So the wife won't let us spend $3000 to fly the family there for the game.

Time for a divorce?
10-31-2019, 02:52 AM
pekduck

Quote:

Originally Posted by James17930

So the wife won't let us spend $3000 to fly the family there for the game.

Time for a divorce?

She said “the family at $3000 for some rubbish” is a bad deal. You will be a good husband and agree with her and inform her that you have a noon business meeting that you have to attend for important matters.

No?
10-31-2019, 05:59 AM
rocktml

How many reds are Expected at the game? I know Seattle had a very decent turnout when they came here in 2017 and 16 for that matter
10-31-2019, 06:13 AM
Richard

I think what we are seeing is all the champions league experience from the main core. How many times did we go down to Mexico, and endure wave, after wave, after wave of attacks. We bent but did not break, and stole the game when we needed to.
10-31-2019, 07:11 AM
Bluenose13

Quote:

Originally Posted by James17930

So the wife won't let us spend $3000 to fly the family there for the game.

Time for a divorce?

Yep...grounds for divorce for sure.
10-31-2019, 08:07 AM
Parkdale

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redcoe15

If there is pressure, it will be on Seattle to win it in front of their own fans.

absolutely. Luckily TFC have been filling the role as "hometown party poopers" quite well recently.
10-31-2019, 08:12 AM
Prof

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10-31-2019, 08:28 AM
Hamilton_Red

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redcoe15

If there is pressure, it will be on Seattle to win it in front of their own fans.

This is true. The dismal nature of their one win & the fact they were outplayed badly in both finals will be something they will want to change. Rui Diaz is the danger man - he’s playing like Giovinco through these playoffs and is the big difference in their team
10-31-2019, 08:55 AM
pfk

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocktml

How many reds are Expected at the game? I know Seattle had a very decent turnout when they came here in 2017 and 16 for that matter

CenturyLink expands up to 68k for special soccer events. I'd say a couple of thousand, maybe.

MLS controlled the ticketing for the 2016/2017 MLS Cups, and I'd imagine it may be the same.

Tickets are on sale at 1pm on Friday.
10-31-2019, 09:24 AM
FootBallAZ

I've used this with the raps during their run, proud to do the same for tfc.

Let's get it, don't stop
10-31-2019, 09:25 AM
FootBallAZ

Any one driving down lol

What section are supporters
10-31-2019, 09:32 AM
Prof

Quote:

Originally Posted by rydermike

Westberg
Auro-Gonzalez-Mavinga-Morrow
Delgado-Bradley-Osorio
Pozuelo-Altidore-Benezet

Laryea and DeLeon as supersubs

Drew Moor as a 90th minute sub ala Cheyrou in 2017

TFC lifts trophy

I like this but I think with the large field at Century Link and there quickness up front, we have to be a little more conservative. I'd go with:
Westberg
Auro-Gonzalez-Mavinga-Morrow
Bradley
Deleon-Delgado-Pozuelo-Benezet
Altidore

Sub- Laryea-Osorio and Moor to lift the trophy.
10-31-2019, 09:50 AM
James17930

Quote:

Originally Posted by pekduck

She said “the family at $3000 for some rubbish” is a bad deal. You will be a good husband and agree with her and inform her that you have a noon business meeting that you have to attend for important matters.

No?

Yep.

"Okay honey, I have a meeting at noon. I'll be back in three days."
10-31-2019, 09:54 AM
Heepster

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfk

I wonder if MLSE will open up BMO or Scotiabank for a viewing party on the 10th?
The Leafs play on the 9th and are away in Chicago the next day. The Raptors play in LA on the 10th. Inside it will be nicer and closer to the screens.

I think Maple Leaf Square would be more likely, bit I suppose we'll find out soon.
10-31-2019, 10:12 AM
Ultra & Proud

I'd run out the same line up and same sub pattern with hopefully the third one being Jozy instead of Mullins or (hopefully) Omar to hold the fort late.

Don't mess with what's working.
10-31-2019, 10:28 AM
ryan

2019

Patriots win the Super Bowl, as the road team.
Blues beat the Bruins 3/4 times away, including Game 7 in Boston to win the Cup.
Raptors beat the Warriors 3/3 times away, including Game 6 in Golden State to win the Larry OB.
Nationals win the WS in 7 games, all road victories.
Both MLS Conf Finals, road wins.

I mean, that's kind of cool....
10-31-2019, 10:43 AM
ManUtd4ever

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud

I'd run out the same line up and same sub pattern with hopefully the third one being Jozy instead of Mullins or (hopefully) Omar to hold the fort late.

Don't mess with what's working.

It wasn't working very well last night though. We were incredibly fortunate to advance. We capitalized on the only 2 chances we generated.

With another week and a half to recuperate, I would definitely start Gonzalez. With Jozy, we'll have to wait and see where he's at.
10-31-2019, 11:13 AM
GerMc

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManUtd4ever

It wasn't working very well last night though. We were incredibly fortunate to advance. We capitalized on the only 2 chances we generated.

With another week and a half to recuperate, I would definitely start Gonzalez. With Jozy, we'll have to wait and see where he's at.

I would agree with this analysis.

I think you start Gonzalez. To be fair, Ciman has impressed me over the last few games. For the most part, gone seems the out to lunch sprawling tackles (though he did one just before the penalty last night). But he has been a stay at home, more conservative defender for the most part, and that pass to Benezet was wonderful. But I would take the stability of Gonzalez, which also should allow Bradley to roam upfield a bit more, and even Mavinga as well.

With respect to Altidore, I bet he is 50/50 even with another week and a bit. But if he can go, I think you start him. I liked the Mullins sub last night, because it allowed Pozuelo to drop back and try to influence the play more. Pozuelo is great in many ways, but he is not strong on the ball, can't do hold up play and if he holds on too long, he often gets pushed off by a defender. So with Altidore's strength up front, you have a Route 1 channel, and Pozuelo can drop back into what is a more natural (and effective) position for him.

I might also start Laryea. I think it has worked very well to have Auro do the first half and then Laryea come in later, but it takes up a substitution. When Mavinga went down with what looked like an arm injury last night, I got a little scared as we had used up all our subs. I think we need to take it to Seattle and get an early goal, so having Laryea running down the wing earlier in the game, sounds like the right approach.

Now it is obvious that my years of armchair coaching far outweigh the skill and experience of the TFC coaching team, so they should obviously just do as I say :-)
10-31-2019, 11:19 AM
OgtheDim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red

This is true. The dismal nature of their one win & the fact they were outplayed badly in both finals will be something they will want to change. ..

To be honest, they don't think like that about their win and 2017 at all. They know how they won & why they lost. They are cool with it.

To both them and us, this is all just part of the journey.

*******

Which raises another point.

Our team defined itself by that 2017 win...and then redefined itself in 2018, negatively, by the pain of the CCL near miss.

I think our team has finally put that past them and redefined itself as

fkn team fkn works

No matter what happens in this game, TFC are here again - a fkn team that fkn works
10-31-2019, 11:41 AM
Oldtimer

Agreed with ManUtd4ever and GerMc.

One thing to keep in mind that was evident in the Atlanta game is that when the opposition can cut off channels to Pozuelo is when he seems poor up front.

That's different from the DC United and NYCE games where Pozuelo was able to play a key role because there were channels to get him the ball.

I expect the Seattle game to be more like the Atlanta game, so having a tall target man like Jozy up front would be a positive because Pozuelo can't do the hold up role. I'd play Jozy, if fit, which means Pozuelo plays out wide or Vanney switches from 4-3-3.
10-31-2019, 01:33 PM
Red CB Toronto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldtimer

Agreed with ManUtd4ever and GerMc.

One thing to keep in mind that was evident in the Atlanta game is that when the opposition can cut off channels to Pozuelo is when he seems poor up front.

That's different from the DC United and NYCE games where Pozuelo was able to play a key role because there were channels to get him the ball.

I expect the Seattle game to be more like the Atlanta game, so having a tall target man like Jozy up front would be a positive because Pozuelo can't do the hold up role. I'd play Jozy, if fit, which means Pozuelo plays out wide or Vanney switches from 4-3-3.

Having Jozy beasting his way around the box will open things up for Pozuelo just it did for Seba. Gives them more space to operate and do their thing. The uncertainty of Jozy playing or not will be a the forefront of the 10 days. Will be interesting to see how the Reds play it, guess it will come down to what they know from the scan he had earlier this week.
10-31-2019, 02:40 PM
ochos

First 10 minutes were horrendous for Ciman last night... up until Westberg made the PK save it looked as though it was going to be a very dour evening for us at the stadium. From our view you could see in super detail how different the ball bounces on that pitch, and how well trained the Atlanta players are tuned to it. They were pouncing on our defence like vultures. Thankfully the boys adjusted and were able to stem the flow after that. We also stopped making suicide lateral passes in the back. A nerve racking one and very fortunate to come out with the W!

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